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WhiteRAVE 11-12-2009 11:55 AM

JK Nav Question
 
I know that some of the JK's come with Nav. Do you have to pay a fee to use it? Or just to upgrade the maps?

What is the annual cost of using Jeeps Factor Nav system?

Thanks

gstoli 11-12-2009 12:06 PM

I don't see why you should pay a fee to use a Nav... After you buy it (Jeep's or any other nav system) you have already paid for the maps, so the only thing to do is download updates (if any).

I was thinking of getting a Jeep with the Nav system. Then I realized that $1200 would get me the best Nav on the market (the Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT, for instance), and I doubt that Jeep's Nav system is as good as that... Now that I have the Jeep I am quite happy with the looks of the sound system it has, so finding a nav that is good match with the looks of the inside of the Jeep is a pain. Still, I think that Jeep's nav is extremely overpriced...

jk'n 11-12-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteRAVE (Post 486689)
I know that some of the JK's come with Nav. Do you have to pay a fee to use it? Or just to upgrade the maps?

What is the annual cost of using Jeeps Factor Nav system?

Thanks

When I first got the Rubi with the built in nav, it used to do traffic updates in real time but haven't seen that feature activate since I let my satellite radio subscription expire. The nav system works without additional expense. I haven't had the maps updated yet so no experience with how much that will cost. Me thinks the dealer has to do that. I haven't done any reading on it yet.

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Originally Posted by gstoli (Post 486702)
I don't see why you should pay a fee to use a Nav... After you buy it (Jeep's or any other nav system) you have already paid for the maps, so the only thing to do is download updates (if any).

I was thinking of getting a Jeep with the Nav system. Then I realized that $1200 would get me the best Nav on the market (the Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT, for instance), and I doubt that Jeep's Nav system is as good as that... Now that I have the Jeep I am quite happy with the looks of the sound system it has, so finding a nav that is good match with the looks of the inside of the Jeep is a pain. Still, I think that Jeep's nav is extremely overpriced...

Yes, my upgrade was $1200.00 but that is not just for the nav. The speakers are upgraded and the amp is upgraded. The radio is also a step up in that it plays DVDs with video AND it has a built in hard drive feature which I really use a lot. I have used the DVD video player feature several times while tailgate camping. I'm in my 50s and have retired my ape suite. I used to get it on and monkey around a lot with installing things like uber radios, speakers and etc. I didn't necessarily want the nav. The Rubi was a replacement for a Sahara Unlimited that Chrysler got back so when they said that OH by the way, we got all of the features you want on the new one except it has the "MyGig" system in it I said "that's OK". Little did I know what I was getting. I did do a slight ouch when I saw the $1200.00 on the sticker as I got it sight unseen from a dealer 200 miles away. But that is were the ouch stopped. The first time I turned on the radio and the difference experienced from the Sahara Unlimited with the stock single disk radio was like night and day compared to the MyGig system.

Sure, cheap out on the radio. Get a nav system for $200.00 - $500.00. Then leave it on the dash and have your jeep broken into a few times for the smash and grab thief or the slit and grab thief and you will wonder if the built in nav may have been a viable option after all. It sits there looking like a radio but is so much more.

Just my .02 after having enjoyed it now for a year and a few months.

gstoli 11-12-2009 12:47 PM

jk'n: I was already in the search for a super quality double-din in-dash navi for my other car when I did my calculations, so I was very well informed of the nav market.

What I will buy one day (for the Porsche) is this
Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT (avicz110bt) All In-Dash Car Stereo Receivers Car Stereo Receivers and Head Units Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix

for the Jeep I will get something less expensive, but with similar functions ($600 buy you a really good Clarion for instance, with all the bells and whistles of Jeep's nav system).

One issue is that I will have to modify the dash to fit it. Another, issue is that I am now using my old Garmin and it is sitting on the dash with the danger to get stolen... My main problem is that after spending a small fortune to buy my Rubi, my wife will defenitely kill me if I spend another grand for a navigator :banghead:

jk'n 11-12-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstoli (Post 486734)
jk'n: I was already in the search for a super quality double-din in-dash navi for my other car when I did my calculations, so I was very well informed of the nav market.

What I will buy one day (for the Porsche) is this
Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT (avicz110bt) All In-Dash Car Stereo Receivers Car Stereo Receivers and Head Units Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix

for the Jeep I will get something less expensive, but with similar functions ($600 buy you a really good Clarion for instance, with all the bells and whistles of Jeep's nav system).

One issue is that I will have to modify the dash to fit it. Another, issue is that I am now using my old Garmin and it is sitting on the dash with the danger to get stolen... My main problem is that after spending a small fortune to buy my Rubi, my wife will defenitely kill me if I spend another grand for a navigator :banghead:

Yah, I definitely see your point especially the last paragraph...the wife factor. My wife amazingly was OK with both jeeps.

The point I was trying to make about the $1200.00 was that it is not just the radio that is involved in that price. It includes an upgrade on the speaker system, amplifier system and the radio. It is priced on the high end of what it is worth. When you factor in that it was made to fit in the space provided and somebody else installed it and it was perfect out of the box, I'm saying that my money was well spent.

RaiderRUBICON 11-12-2009 12:55 PM

I think your wasting your money.I bought my Rubicon fully loaded (with nav.) and it has been fine. When I bought my Porsche,I too bought it with navigation. I like to keep it simple(kiss) as you should too.I don't think that all aftermarket items are a good idea. Good Luck ,enjoy your jeep!

jk'n 11-12-2009 12:55 PM

BTW, I think the OP is still trying to decide if the option is worth the price paid. In my mind as a nav owner, it was.

jk'n 11-12-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderRUBICON (Post 486737)
I think your wasting your money.I bought my Rubicon fully loaded (with nav.) and it has been fine. When I bought my Porsche,I too bought it with navigation. I like to keep it simple(kiss) as you should too.I don't think that all aftermarket items are a good idea. Good Luck ,enjoy your jeep!

Sorry RaiderRUBICON, my reply came in between yours and the one by gstoli. You appear to be responding to his post. I think you are saying not to waste money on aftermarket upgrades to the sound system and go with the nav system if you can afford it on a new jeep.

B11 11-12-2009 01:03 PM

I was never interested in the MyGiG Nav system when I was looking for a new JK but then I found the exact one I wanted and it had the upgraded system. I didn't want it but I wanted everything else so I said screw it and got it. After having it and it having all the forest service roads that I never would have guessed it to have I wouldn't be without it.

gstoli 11-12-2009 01:08 PM

The Porsche is my hobby. Bought cheap and still spending a fortune on upgrades and mods. It did not have a navi and I need one... So, yes I enjoy wasting my money on a car that will eventually need an engine replacement (you read the 986 forum I guess). Or maybe I will be one of the lucky ones with no engine failure :)

For the Jeep all what I described was theoretical... Eventually I bought a 09 in stock that had the 6-CD changer on it (and the upgraded sound system), which was something extra that I would avoid if I could... But I could not say no to the deal I got, so I decided to (really) waste my money ($350) for a sound system I did not need.

I am sure everyone is happy with the factory nav. Actually, I am happy with the factory head unit :) and I am having second thoughts of whether I really need a navi (but I do). All I am saying is that as an aftermarket, I would not get the factory navi (I don't even know if it as available as aftermarket). But again if the Jeep you negotiate about has it on, don't let this be a factor...

WhiteRAVE 11-12-2009 02:35 PM

I just wanted clarification on maps and cost. Does it cost you money to update your maps?

I know that traffic updates stop with your satellite subscription. Also is their an additional cost to include traffic above and beyond reg sat radio?

I have priced aftermarkets but that wasn't my concern it was more about ongoing costs to use the NAV. whether or not it is free to use the Nav after the initial cost or if there is a continual cost to keep it up-to-date.

Thanks

jk'n 11-12-2009 05:13 PM

Mine is free in its use. What I don't know about yet because I haven't had it updated is the cost of the update(s) if any. There was not cost above and beyond the sat radio for traffic updates. My guess is that it is part of the data stream from the satellite. My honest opinion is that the CB radio information coming from other drivers stuck in traffic ahead was more useful than the sat updates. I didn't find that feature particularly useful for the year that I had the use of it.

WhiteRAVE 11-12-2009 05:14 PM

great tks jk'n for the info that was helpful.

superdavis78 11-12-2009 05:55 PM

I really want a myGIG nav system in my 07 Rubi :( got to find one at a decent price, or suck it up and get one from the dealer and let them install it...

pmrbcant 11-15-2009 09:01 PM

New owner, new to the forum and have looked at the Jeep Nav for the Wrangler X 2 door I just bought in October. Has anyone used the Jeep Nav for hiking? One I was advertised was made by Garmin for Jeep - but you had to buy the topos from Garmin and upload them. I did this on an old Garmin GPS for a old boat I had and it was fairly straightforward. Anyone know what the topo scale is? 1:250,000....1:24,000??

Thanks in advance.

Miles


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