Jeep Wrangler Forum

Jeep Wrangler Forum (http://www.wranglerforum.com/)
-   JK Tech Forum (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/)
-   -   adding electrical bus (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/adding-electrical-bus-408826.html)

CoHoJoe 11-26-2013 08:23 AM

adding electrical bus
 
Hey all. Too many good ideas on here. Any suggestions for adding an electrical bus like a second fues box or expand the current one on a 14 jk? I am looking at adding a cb, some interior lighting, power for phone etc and thought the best to route power for these would be an extra bus rather tgan tapping in to other circuits or running back to battery

Smokinjoe 11-26-2013 08:42 AM

One word SPOD ...

NFRs2000NYC 11-26-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokinjoe (Post 6395794)
One word SPOD ...

x1897653

Lbeato 11-26-2013 02:26 PM

What they said!

brian d 11-26-2013 02:34 PM

Probably get tomatoes thrown at me for this, but I am in the process of making my own.
My criteria was 5 fused relays, a circuit breaker, local ground and a 6 conductor cable to run into the cab for the switches. Its coming along well and have about 50 bucks in it.

NFRs2000NYC 11-26-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian d (Post 6402746)
Probably get tomatoes thrown at me for this, but I am in the process of making my own.
My criteria was 5 fused relays, a circuit breaker, local ground and a 6 conductor cable to run into the cab for the switches. Its coming along well and have about 50 bucks in it.

If you are capable enough to build something like an SPOD yourself, more power to you, and thats awesome, a few people have done it. However, for most of us who aren't electrical engineers and can't design a mildly intelligent circuitboard the SPOD is the best solution. It is a very clean and well put together package. Having said that, anything you can build yourself is worth doing. :thumb:

cc4005 11-26-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian d (Post 6402746)
Probably get tomatoes thrown at me for this, but I am in the process of making my own.
My criteria was 5 fused relays, a circuit breaker, local ground and a 6 conductor cable to run into the cab for the switches. Its coming along well and have about 50 bucks in it.

Details? Where did you mount the relays? Are you putting in a new fuse block or using in-line holders? Does the $50 include the copper?

spankinkopita 11-26-2013 08:07 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian d (Post 6402746)
Probably get tomatoes thrown at me for this, but I am in the process of making my own.
My criteria was 5 fused relays, a circuit breaker, local ground and a 6 conductor cable to run into the cab for the switches. Its coming along well and have about 50 bucks in it.

Agreed. Ran a constant from the battery and a switched line from heated seats. Six pack fuse block installed under the steering wheel. Relay activates the constant. Uses a body ground in the drivers foot well.
$27

wrpnst1 11-26-2013 09:30 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I made my Dbox myself.. it has 5 reg. relays and 1 heavy duty relay for my air compressor... I used the video from NEWEREJK - YouTube... it cost around $50 for all the parts and the switches.... If you watch the video a few times almost anyone can do it....

Michael

Here is the link:Off-Road Lighting - How the DBox is made. (Part: 1) - YouTube

milani 11-27-2013 08:38 AM

This is a great idea, but what is the purpose of the relays?

spankinkopita 11-27-2013 08:54 AM

The relay makes the source switched with ignition. I use the block for accessories I don't wish to power when the Jeep is off, charger, GPS, back up camera

CoHoJoe 11-28-2013 04:52 AM

Thanks for the ideas all, I will have to watch that video, except at work now so tomorrow! I will post up what design I come up with and project pics once I get started!

Olsen185 11-29-2013 12:22 AM

Any good place to buy the components?

thebuilderman 11-29-2013 12:03 PM

That was a great video. I am trying to figure what type and kind of lights for my jeep.

michiganadam 11-29-2013 12:05 PM

I dont know about you guys, but i dont like spod. I dont like where they intend for it to be mounted and i dont like their price.

I havent finished my install yet but I found these switch boxes that are used in cop cars. I paid $100 for the switchbox, it has 5 20 amp switches with fuses, and one 40 amp switch with relay and circuit breaker. Mounts like a cb. Of course you can still connect it to relays... Of course you ought to connect it with a fuse closer to the battery. And sure, its a little more work, but is it really worth the extra $300 or so to not do that work? :)

http://www.star1889.com/products/sig...Switch-Box.asp

wrpnst1 12-01-2013 06:48 PM

Here is a list of what you will need... I ordered most of the parts from
Electrical & Wiring Supplies - Automotive, Marine and Commercial - WiringProducts

5 x automotive relays
5 x pre-wired relay bases
1 x inline fuse holder
11 x male spade connectors
32 x female spade connectors
1 x small eyelet connector
2 x large eyelet connectors
4 x copper crimp connectors
1 x 3 amp fuse
1 x 30 amp fuse
5 x 20 amp fuses
1 x 6 in 1 raised fuse box
1 x 6"x4"x3" water tight box
1 x 10' length of 6-conductor cord/wire.. I had this from a Trailer Project....
1 x 1' length of 16 gauge black wire
2 x " rubber grommet
1 x ⅝" rubber grommet
1 x " rubber grommet
Extra wires used come from pieces cut off of pre-wired relay bases

Good Luck

Michael

redneckwelder 12-02-2013 11:30 AM

The hardest part is making sure you use the right gauge of wire, and fuse everything properly to eliminate the chance of fire. You can tap into ignition power by using an add a circuit. Basic wiring, and lots of online sources for info it.

Olsen185 12-16-2013 11:08 AM

This is what I came up with. I used a circuit breaker between the battery and the relay box. The power goes from the curcuit breaker to a fuse block in the relay box. Each relay is separately fused.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps1f333acd.jpg
Curcuit breaker
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0752cf75.jpg
These are the outputs for whatever is being powered
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0caf7a0e.jpg
This picture shows the fuse block. The yellow wires get connected to a 6 wire cable that runs to the switches. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...psef9c59c5.jpg

michiganadam 12-24-2013 08:44 PM

Olsen, nice job!

Quote:

Originally Posted by redneckwelder (Post 6511394)
The hardest part is making sure you use the right gauge of wire, and fuse everything properly to eliminate the chance of fire. You can tap into ignition power by using an add a circuit. Basic wiring, and lots of online sources for info it.

Don't ever think you've "eliminated" the chance of fire. You can....reduce it greatly. But stock electrical systems catch on fire.... :)

I'm sure we know that starters dont have fuses.

JPi1 12-24-2013 08:59 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Spod is far easier, and less expensive if your time is worth anything. Plus, all spod units are built with marine switches and components (top off in a rain storm) and with the new RCPM (remote controlled power module) you can control all your spod accessories with your smart phone!
And the spod has a specific place to mount the switches and Power Source on all JKs and TJ/LJs. It also will power down on its own if left on so your battery won't be dead if you forget to turn off any accessory!
Here's one in a '14 toy Tacoma we just installed.

Olsen185 12-24-2013 09:00 PM

Thanks!!

michiganadam 12-24-2013 09:07 PM

doesnt the spod only go above the rear view mirror though?

JPi1 12-24-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michiganadam (Post 6969865)
doesnt the spod only go above the rear view mirror though?

On Wranglers there's not many other places to mount them in an uncluttered way.

Maximum Carnage 12-24-2013 09:42 PM

This is a nice set up, where did this box come from?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Olsen185 (Post 6802257)
This is what I came up with. I used a circuit breaker between the battery and the relay box.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps0caf7a0e.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...psef9c59c5.jpg


Olsen185 12-24-2013 10:50 PM

I made it. I am actually getting ready to order the supplies to make my wife's jeep one too. This time though I found a plastic box instead of aluminum. The aluminum box is nice, but I don't want any chance of bridging the terminals on the battery.

I'm working up the prices now, send me an email if you want me to make you one too- sales@angryoffroad.com

Erik

MrSig 12-25-2013 02:58 AM

This is what I did.
http://www.aaof.us/images/snorkel6.JPG

http://www.aaof.us/images/underhood.JPG

RoninWylie 12-25-2013 07:42 AM

The S-pod is overpriced. It is also a bit of overkill for most, I cant think of 6 12v items I want to plug in. If it were half the price and half the size It would be a no brainer.

JPi1 12-25-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoninWylie (Post 6974825)
The S-pod is overpriced. It is also a bit of overkill for most, I cant think of 6 12v items I want to plug in. If it were half the price and half the size It would be a no brainer.

A good number of our customers are thinking of ways to add a second spod. Most are full with front locker, rear locker, air compressor, rock lights, LED light bar, and A pillar lights. The feed back I get from customers: "It's one of the best upgrades I've done to my jeep".
And they love the smart phone remote control.

RoninWylie 12-26-2013 09:33 AM

JPi1 perhaps instead of taking a defensive stance to the remarks about the S-Pod. You could offer some constrictive criticism to the manufacture of the item. They may realize they have another market segment to sell their product to. S-pod with 3 switches and half price is all I need. Telling me people like it and look to add a second does nothing to further My needs nor the OP's needs. If I were the owner of S-Pod and I read this thread I would be offering up a half size unit to fill the needs of the Jeepers who don't require the 6 switch, but would still like to purchase your product.

JPi1 12-26-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoninWylie (Post 6991089)
JPi1 perhaps instead of taking a defensive stance to the remarks about the S-Pod. You could offer some constrictive criticism to the manufacture of the item. They may realize they have another market segment to sell their product to. S-pod with 3 switches and half price is all I need. Telling me people like it and look to add a second does nothing to further My needs nor the OP's needs. If I were the owner of S-Pod and I read this thread I would be offering up a half size unit to fill the needs of the Jeepers who don't require the 6 switch, but would still like to purchase your product.

Ok, here is the OPs words: "Any suggestions for adding an electrical bus like a second fues box or expand the current one on a 14 jk?"
I'm in the business of selling and installing high quality products such as the spod. It's not my invention, nor do I manufacture it. I am not in the business of assuming everyone is an electrical wizard and can fab up what the OP asked for, then blame me for causing an electrical fire in their new $40000 jeep. I simply offered a very well designed, functional part that can be installed in less than an hour. If you are talented enough to build one of these and don't mind taking on the liability, knock yourself out.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:17 PM.