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Twozerofd 12-10-2009 06:16 PM

Hemi 6.1 Update (pics)
 
The motor is mounted! I think it's only half the battle though....

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6826/img00020m.jpg http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/i...jpg/1/w640.png


Teraflex motor mounts on the frame
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4062/img00022s.jpg http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/i...jpg/1/w640.png


Problem #1. Alternator will not fit here, it dosn't have clearance against the frame. (working on solving this)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7485/img00021z.jpg http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/i...jpg/1/w640.png



Problem #2. The oil pan sits super low on this motor. There is clearance but new bumpstops may have to be made or I'm wondering if the 5.7 oil pan will fit, it requires less clearance.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/421/img00023fr.jpg http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/img00...jpg/1/w640.png

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7185/img00024.jpg http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/i...jpg/1/w640.png


The conclusion has been reached so far that unless your rig is lifted high up, there most likely wont be enough clearance for the oil pan since it sits so low.

2002Apex 12-10-2009 06:47 PM

wow thats low. gotta be a tummy tuck oil pan. something for cars with 6.1 hemis that are low to the ground.

Twozerofd 12-10-2009 07:01 PM

yeah i already had a belly-up skid plate, that was a must for this project. ill check out and see if i can find some type of aftermarket oil pan thats lower in profile. anyone have any ideas?

David Lucas 12-11-2009 04:57 PM

DAYYUUUUUMMMM! That pan is almost as big as a bathtub.:eek:

Twozerofd 12-11-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lucas (Post 503654)
DAYYUUUUUMMMM! That pan is almost as big as a bathtub.:eek:

Big motor, needs lots of oil:cool:

wolfen 12-12-2009 08:37 AM

Your putting a 360 in a Jeep Wrangler?
I would ask why in the world you'd do something liek that but I already know the answer :)

So I'll just say Freaking cool as He** man keep us updated

Twozerofd 12-12-2009 10:23 AM

Im not sure why im doing it either. about the best i could think of when people ask me is "Cause its cool.":cool:

hitman76 12-12-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twozerofd (Post 503989)
Im not sure why im doing it either. about the best i could think of when people ask me is "Cause its cool.":cool:



It is cool. its bad ass!!! Let us know what you come up with!!!!:punk:

MikalCarbine 12-12-2009 04:03 PM

Very nice! What front axle are you packing? The power behind that 6.1 would probably explode a D35 into pieces

wolfen 12-12-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twozerofd (Post 503989)
Im not sure why im doing it either. about the best i could think of when people ask me is "Cause its cool.":cool:


Well all I can say is make sure the transmission, Transfer case and differentials and axles will handle that much power, if they do......................................... ROCK ON BROTHER:punk:

jmurle000 12-12-2009 05:52 PM

More pics plse

Twozerofd 12-13-2009 09:40 PM

Im stickin with the stock Rubi dana 44's and the 4.10 gears. For now. Eventually ill go to a dana 60. the only thing that gives me some comfort is that the SRT8 Grand Cherokee has a dana 44, and a viper V-10 has a dana 44. My tranny is being replaced with a 6 speed Getrag, but im keeping the stock Rubi transfer case. im sure that if i ever complete this that when i drive ill be finding more pieces i need to replace....

wolfen 12-14-2009 03:53 PM

The stock diffs and transfer case should hold up especially knowing that the diffs are on a Grand Cherokee

Twozerofd 12-15-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfen (Post 505074)
The stock diffs and transfer case should hold up especially knowing that the diffs are on a Grand Cherokee

Thats what im hopin for:D

wolfen 12-15-2009 08:17 PM

I feel ya there, I have Dana 30 in the front and a Dana 35 in the back, (both open diffs) and I hope I never have to put a bigger engine in mine cause I don;t think I Dana 35 will take a 4.3, and that's the next engine I'm putting in any Jeep I ever own other than the one it came with.

Just Imagine a Jeep wrangler with a Chevy 4.3 engine 350 turbo trans and transfer case setup wit Dana 44's equipped with LSD's. I got that idea cause My 89 S-10 Blazer is my recovery vehicle, for a 01 Wrangler with a 2.5 and a 3 speed auto (for now anyway)

MoA 12-15-2009 09:10 PM

ive ridden in a jeep with a hemi.. god i love em =D

wolfen 12-16-2009 06:42 PM

Last thing I rode in with a Hemi was a 72 Challenger, and that thing took off like a raped ape, so I can only imagine the raw power of a Hemi in a Wrangler :)

MoA 12-16-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfen (Post 506815)
Last thing I rode in with a Hemi was a 72 Challenger, and that thing took off like a raped ape, so I can only imagine the raw power of a Hemi in a Wrangler :)

yah it was neat.. the guy could go over damn near anything in 2wd just by shear power.. then he'd lock the arb lockers and just idle over the same things without pressin the gas.. amused me

i get to drive a hemi everyday =D just wish it was in my jeep and not my charger =/

oh dont have any pics of the jeep wheelin but here it is on the trailer next to my jeep
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...13978_5847.jpg

Twozerofd 12-16-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfen (Post 506815)
Last thing I rode in with a Hemi was a 72 Challenger, and that thing took off like a raped ape, so I can only imagine the raw power of a Hemi in a Wrangler :)

Just to clarify, exactly how fast is raped ape speed??:D

That jeep looks badass on the trailer....you guys are all givin' me motivation to get this thing finished...ill try and get some more pics up this weekend hopefully.

97rangler 12-16-2009 08:48 PM

you gotta be able to have a custom one built for that motor, i mean if your spending the time to put a 6.1 in a tj you gotta have some fab know how to build or have a custom unit made. maybe someone with a cad design program might be able to draw one up for you. totally sick tj though im jealous

wolfen 12-17-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Twozerofd (Post 506896)
Just to clarify, exactly how fast is raped ape speed??:D

That jeep looks badass on the trailer....you guys are all givin' me motivation to get this thing finished...ill try and get some more pics up this weekend hopefully.

That depends on if the ape is chasing you or running from youLOL


Serous though I'm not sure, but I know its faster than the Va Beach city police cars can run :)

Twozerofd 12-17-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfen (Post 507420)

Serous though I'm not sure, but I know its faster than the Va Beach city police cars can run :)

hhahaha now thats funny:D

wolfen 12-18-2009 03:25 PM

Funny,,,,,,,yet true :) they have updated their cars to crown Vics, with teh biggest V8 Ford has now days, and I don;t have the old Challenger anymore so now I have something new and improved for them :) on the road its a 05 Chevy Malibu, and MY ride is either the 01 wrangler, or a 89 Chevy S-10 Blazer, teh funny part is my Jeep has a2.5 engine 3 speed auto and open diffs, and I can go anywhere their 08 Hummer H2 can't, with its LSD rear and air locker in front, I work for the city so I get inside info on what and where the do what, so I went to a police "drive rodeo and entered my Jeep AND Blazer against their Ford F350 super duty King Ranch edition and Hummer H2, I took the little S-10 Blazer and yanked the F350 backwards out of the mud it was stuck in (only a 2wd version F350 LOL), in Lo/1 and the hummer tried to follow me in the Jeep over the obstacle course LOL of course a H2 weighs in at 8k so I can honestly say I didn't sink in the sand :) of course I don;t weigh 8k either , PLUS even with open diffs, I think I know how to drive and apparently I'm just a little better than out local cops.

Bignuke 02-21-2010 09:25 PM

Anything new?

Twozerofd 02-21-2010 09:32 PM

Still workin out some issues....but have no fear, I am not giving up!! In the "putting back together" stage....for the most part.

yjkid95 02-21-2010 09:59 PM

I have an idea for the oil pan its going your going to have to research it though. What about a dry sump oil pan like the new corvette z06 has the oil pan clears the crankshaft by and inche or too then it has a seperate tank that holds all the oil that the 7.0 ls7 needs it lets them sit the engine in lower to the ground for a lower center of gravity and the oil doesnt go to one side when it going around a turn...Just an idea for ya then youd have plenty of clearance.

johnnysaz77 02-21-2010 10:00 PM

jealous as he11...

yjkid95 02-21-2010 10:23 PM

My brother also just came up with an idea for the alternator its kinda crazy. Maybe you should get an eletric waterpump and powersteering pump and try to mount the alternator to the frame and custom make a idler pulley. You can find a belt to be short enough and polyurethane motor mounts might be in store if you dont have enough slack with the tensioner.

holes 02-21-2010 10:37 PM

Looking good, must say that im jealous

YAHAHA 02-22-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MoA (Post 506884)

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person who thinks that Jeeps need flames. Gonna throw some old-fashion hot rod flames on mine this summer... with a special surprise thrown in.


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