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Harrson 12-16-2009 08:50 AM

Back seat bolts
 
I just got a back seat from a guy on craigslist (nice guy, too), and the seat came with the front mounting hardware, but no side brackets or bolts. If I were to go to Lowe's looking for bolts, what size should I look for? Is there a way to quickly fab something to take the place of the side brackets, or should I just hop online and buy them for $20?

GampMX 12-16-2009 08:59 AM

when I need nuts and bolts I go to ACE. More than once I asked the guy to come out and I showed him what I need. They are really good with picking the right size.

Geoff@Bestop 12-16-2009 09:14 AM

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They're bolt and nut combinations, so get quality hi-grade stuff that matches and fits thru the hole. Use washers.

This is a page from one of our install guides - we're using metric, but I don't think it really matters. Get close.

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Harrson 12-16-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GampMX (Post 506349)
when I need nuts and bolts I go to ACE. More than once I asked the guy to come out and I showed him what I need. They are really good with picking the right size.

Unfortunately a) there are no Ace Hardwares near me, and b) I have Lowe's giftcards, so Lowe's it is.

GampMX 12-16-2009 10:21 AM

giftcard is cheaper than ACE. Hard to beat that.

Harrson 12-16-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 506358)
They're bolt and nut combinations, so get quality hi-grade stuff that matches and fits thru the hole. Use washers.

This is a page from one of our install guides - we're using metric, but I don't think it really matters. Get close.

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Is this hardware the same size as the stock hardware?

Also, any thoughts on the side brackets?

Harrson 12-16-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GampMX (Post 506402)
giftcard is cheaper than ACE. Hard to beat that.

You got that right!

Geoff@Bestop 12-16-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Harrson (Post 506411)
Is this hardware the same size as the stock hardware?

Also, any thoughts on the side brackets?

It's designed to fit in place of the stock hardware, so it's going to be real close. In other words, it will certainly go through the stock bolt hole.

That install I have above is for a Flip-n-fold seat. The one you're getting is probably fixed. This would have been the better install. It's for what is basically our stock-style replacement seat. But I really do not know if the brackets are exactly the same as stock.

Personally, I'd buy them. But my Dad would fabricate his own ("they're stronger, they're cheaper, I can make them in 20 minutes. Whatza problem?").

Harrson 12-16-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 506422)
It's designed to fit in place of the stock hardware, so it's going to be real close. In other words, it will certainly go through the stock bolt hole.

That install I have above is for a Flip-n-fold seat. The one you're getting is probably fixed. This would have been the better install. It's for what is basically our stock-style replacement seat. But I really do not know if the brackets are exactly the same as stock.

Personally, I'd buy them. But my Dad would fabricate his own ("they're stronger, they're cheaper, I can make them in 20 minutes. Whatza problem?").

So, it turns out that the seat is a flip-and-fold (at least it folds, and then can be flipped forward) - I'm excited to have both a back seat and storage space (albeit only one at a time)!

Basically, I was asking if there was a common-jeep-knowledge fix for this that I just hadn't encountered. Unfortunately, since I don't have a welder or bench tools, I probably won't be able to just whip something up that will work, so I'll probably have to buy them.

And I only needed one more microwave to make my welder, too.

Geoff@Bestop 12-16-2009 02:38 PM

If it says Trailmax or Bestop on it, then those instructions are exactly correct!

As for your welder, I am totally in favor of people making their own stuff. It's awesome. Maybe think about freezing some, um, DNA, first. In case you want kids later on.

Harrson 12-16-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 506613)
If it says Trailmax or Bestop on it, then those instructions are exactly correct!

As for your welder, I am totally in favor of people making their own stuff. It's awesome. Maybe think about freezing some, um, DNA, first. In case you want kids later on.

Hey, another DIY project!

Geoff@Bestop 12-16-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrson (Post 506653)
Hey, another DIY project!

It's a good DIY project, but I find it goes faster with a partner. And like so many projects, it gets overcomplicated if you're lucky enough to have a full team.

Harrson 12-16-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 506670)
It's a good DIY project, but I find it goes faster with a partner. And like so many projects, it gets overcomplicated if you're lucky enough to have a full team.

Yeah, partners are good - I just don't have it in me to hire help. Now the question becomes 'how do I convince the wife to work on a group project (with me as foreman, of course)?'

Geoff@Bestop 12-16-2009 05:13 PM

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Harrson 12-16-2009 07:00 PM

Aaaaannnddd it's back on the road!

I just got back from Lowe's with:

4 M8-1.25x35 hex head bolts

4 M8-1.25 flange nuts

and

10 8mm flat washers.

I'm going to put the bolts in sometime in the next few days, and then begin the search for seat belts, their respective bolts, and the side brackets.

Then I might move the thing back to the tailgate (as I saw someone else in the forum did).

Either way, I can't wait until the summer, when I can throw a couple friends in the back, leave the top behind and head off somewhere for a weekend!


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