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Fred1 01-22-2010 07:28 PM

Catalytic converter needed
 
My 98 4.0 has something loose inside the Cat. It doesn't affect the performance but it sounds just like I have a broken exhaust pipe hanger. I have searched the web looking for an after market Cat but can't find one. The dealer wants $850.00. I don't want to go to a straight pipe. Anyone know of anyone who makes a California legal Cat? Any one in California have one to sell?

birdhunter 01-22-2010 08:30 PM

Napa ,auto zone what ever
have cats for around 100 bucks

kdukes4 01-22-2010 10:31 PM

did you have the local dealer check it out? call them up and tell them that you believe your jeep has a recall : E22-PCM reprogramming and catalytic converter inspection



It appears the failures are only for 1996-1998 Chrysler vehicles (including Jeep Wrangler and Cherokee). It appears that both the cat and the PCM were recalled. The cat for falling apart and rattling and the PCM for not detecting a cat failure. I wasnt able to find anything showing the exact range of VINs this was for... but perhaps yours doesnt fall into that range.

From the first page of the recall
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August 2006 Dealer Service Instructions for:
Emissions Recall E22 Reprogram PCM and Inspect Catalytic Converter

1996 (XJ) Jeep® Cherokee
1996 (ZJ) Jeep® Grand Cherokee
NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles equipped with a 4.0L (ERH) engine.

1997 - 1998 (AN) Dodge Dakota
1997 - 1998 (XJ) Jeep® Cherokee
1997 – 1998 (TJ) Jeep® Wrangler (built after June 30, 1996)
NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles equipped with a 2.5L (EPE) engine.

IMPORTANT: Some of the involved vehicles may be in dealer used vehicle inventory. Dealers should complete this recall service on these vehicles before retail delivery. Dealers should also perform this recall on vehicles in for service. Involved vehicles can be determined by using the VIP inquiry process.

Subject
The Powertain Control Module (PCM) on about 467,400 of the above vehicles may not be capable of detecting a deteriorating catalytic converter. Also, under certain conditions, some catalytic converters may be subject to mechanical degradation that causes a rattle.

kdukes4 01-22-2010 10:32 PM

ooooo damn i didn't notice you had a 4.0, so i dont think that'll work.

Fred1 01-22-2010 10:38 PM

Thanks kdukes4, you had me excited until I read 2.5L. I may buy an out of state Cat and reinstall mine for inspection when the time comes.

kdukes4 01-22-2010 10:41 PM

sorry man...

SPDNJOE 01-23-2010 12:31 AM

Where in California are you ?

meyers 01-23-2010 09:10 AM

I have heard some take the cat off and knock the insides out with a pipe or long bar by poking it through the end. Never done it myself but may be a quick fix if you cannot find one right away.

Fred1 01-23-2010 12:02 PM

I am in South Orange County

SPDNJOE 01-23-2010 03:55 PM

Fred1,
I placed a call to a muffler shop here in OC that I have been using for 22 yrs. They said they will call me back with a price in about 1/2 hour.

SPDNJOE 01-23-2010 04:23 PM

Fred1,
Call Plaza Muffler in Santa Ana,Ca. They quoted $240 installed. 714-547-5461

Fred1 01-24-2010 01:57 PM

Thanks SDPNJOE, I'll call them Monday

SPDNJOE 01-26-2010 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred1 (Post 529890)
Thanks SDPNJOE, I'll call them Monday

Did they take care of you ?

89PBR96 01-26-2010 08:53 AM

Are you sure it's not just the heat shield came loose also I no in IL it's illegal to reinstall a cat. off another vehicle

05GT-O.C.D. 01-26-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89PBR96 (Post 531376)
Are you sure it's not just the heat shield came loose also I no in IL it's illegal to reinstall a cat. off another vehicle

I think that's federal, same law in Ohio.

SPDNJOE 01-26-2010 11:57 AM

it's illegal in most if not all states, but no one said to install one from another vehicle.

05GT-O.C.D. 01-26-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPDNJOE (Post 531444)
it's illegal in most if not all states, but no one said to install one from another vehicle.

Yeah, but if I could find a used one I'd install it. My cat's shot and I just lost my job. :banghead: So, the genius lawmakers are going to have me driving on a bad cat, instead of a good condition used cat until I can afford to replace it. :rolleyes:

89PBR96 01-26-2010 01:09 PM

I'm not saying just saying a shop will not install it for you but you could do it your self

SPDNJOE 01-27-2010 01:32 PM

Fred1,
Any update on the Cat ?

Fred1 01-27-2010 08:50 PM

Yea George, I spoke with Plaza and they said they can weld in a universal Cat. The problem is I keep my Jeep at my house in Borrego Springs so I was hoping for a direct fit and install it myself. I may bring it home during the summer (when it's as hot as the surface of the sun there) and have them do it. Thanks for the help, PM me if you are going to be in B.S. Great wheelin there.

Fred, AKA Grant

Fred1 01-27-2010 08:54 PM

Yes, It is illegal to install or sell a used Cat. Who's checking? I am going to double check that it may be the heat shield that is loose.

Thanks for the replies, Fred

SPDNJOE 01-27-2010 10:47 PM

I used to do a lot of wheeling there years ago. We used to go out by the old landing strip. My friends father lives in B.S. His last name is Partridge. You've probably seen his Kawasaki green class 5/16 baja with a built acura eng in it. It's kind of street legal.
I will definately PM you when I go out there again. It's been about 10 yrs.


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