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tiny terror 12-08-2006 02:52 PM

how would you go about modding....
 
Imagine you have a bare bone stock Jeep. Doesn't need work on the engine, doesn't need work at all, other than it's stock. You have an unlimited bank account and access to anything you want. The only rule is you have to wait a month between each mod.

From start to finish, how would you go about building what you want?

(you have to be able to use it between mods, no leaving it in the garage in pieces)

1BLKJP 12-08-2006 04:03 PM

That's a tough question Tiny. Because in my mind all mods are related to each other. I do one thing so that I can do another and then that lets me do something else. So in my mind I wouldn't have to wait for anything because I would do all mods at once. :D :D :D

tiny terror 12-08-2006 04:06 PM

(I was kinda reaching for a little insight on what's the best order to mod in :D)

whitebuffalo 12-08-2006 04:08 PM

axles/driveline
lift
tires
engine enhancements (more pow-ah)
new radio
tube fenders (just for scout ;) )

Odhinn 12-08-2006 05:26 PM

Axles/driveline
Lift/longarm
Wheels/tires
Armor

To start

MouthfulOfGrass 12-08-2006 05:45 PM

I'm assuming from what I've read that you guys have done these mods before, that's why you're giving them in the order that you are.

What I would like to know, is Step 1. Axles/driveline: why ? Why this first, and what does this mean - what mod do you make to these componants, and why is it important to do this as the first step ?

Odhinn 12-08-2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MouthfulOfGrass (Post 36389)
I'm assuming from what I've read that you guys have done these mods before, that's why you're giving them in the order that you are.

What I would like to know, is Step 1. Axles/driveline: why ? Why this first, and what does this mean - what mod do you make to these componants, and why is it important to do this as the first step ?

Nope not all done on mine yet. That was my desire list and not the list that cash allows for. Upgrading to dana 44's is my preference. Adding lockers is the top one in my book if the axle will handle it thats why I don't have a locker in the rear of mine. I haven't upgraded it yet as it is a dana 35. A broken axle on a weak rear/front end is a definite downer on the trail. Also the locker allows all 4 wheels to pull when one or more is off the ground. My 2 cents.

Vector6 12-08-2006 06:23 PM

this is what I would probably do...
 
january, 6" long arm lift and 35"s

feb, 4.88 gears and ARB lockers

march, full cage

april, diesel conversion

may, front winch bumper

june, 9500 lb winch

july, rear tire carrier bumper

aug, daystar 1" poly body mount lift

sept, atlas 2

oct, klune V underdrive and TW rear shaft

nov, warn hub conversion

dec, some cool red and green neon lights under the dash to celebrate X-mas :D

tiny terror 12-08-2006 06:25 PM

Vector gets a gold star for playing the game. :D

atlas 2 - what's that?

Odhinn 12-08-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 36406)
Vector gets a gold star for playing the game. :D

atlas 2 - what's that?



We were playing a game?

Grats on the gold star Vector:)

Vector6 12-08-2006 07:07 PM

Atlas 2

An extremely high quality specialty 2 speed (High range 1:1 plus one low range) transfer case. Available for many popular applications in 2.0, 3.0, 3.8, 4.3, 5.0 and 6.0 to one low range ratios ratios. Custom adapted applications are in many cases possible where the standard stock item will not fit. We know all sorts of unusual applications for these excellent cases.

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Fully synchronized shift-on-the-fly operation.
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Twin Stick - allows 2-HI, 4-HI, RWD-Lo, FWD-Lo, 4WD-Lo operation

good info here > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...art1/index.asp

linky...
http://high-impact.net/transmission_...case_Atlas.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=8000498518

mrbigjeep 12-08-2006 08:14 PM

well it depends on how hard and how much you wheel. if you don't wheel that hard and your tires aren't gonna be that big (maybe 33's) i'd do this-

3-4" lift and 33's

sye/cv driveshaft if your gettin vibes

gears and axle upgrade if you fine your struggling with stock gears and your wheelin harder and need the stronger axles

sliders

more body armor and cool stuff (Like tube fenders, trail corners, led lights, bumpers, winch)

thats basically what i'd do but it really depends on your driving

amerijeep 12-08-2006 09:03 PM

I would totally restore mine, frame up. Been together many years and I want to keep it around many more.

AzTJ 12-08-2006 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MouthfulOfGrass (Post 36389)
What I would like to know, is Step 1. Axles/driveline: why ? Why this first, and what does this mean - what mod do you make to these componants, and why is it important to do this as the first step ?

DO you ever look before you leap? If you wanna be a hard core wheeler and lift your stock jeep with larger tires that the stock axles and gears wern't made for, they will wear out/or break leaving you stuck on a trail. Getting a good foundation is the best start on premature breakage. Even if your not rocking 35's from the start, axles/gears are prolly the best to upgrade first, depending on how extreme you want to go.

amy 12-09-2006 12:49 AM

Vector6, you said, "april, diesel conversion." Is there a diesel conversion kit for jeeps?

mrbigjeep 12-11-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amy (Post 36500)
Vector6, you said, "april, diesel conversion." Is there a diesel conversion kit for jeeps?

he'll make one if not :D

MouthfulOfGrass 12-12-2006 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 36484)
DO you ever look before you leap? If you wanna be a hard core wheeler and lift your stock jeep with larger tires that the stock axles and gears wern't made for, they will wear out/or break leaving you stuck on a trail. Getting a good foundation is the best start on premature breakage. Even if your not rocking 35's from the start, axles/gears are prolly the best to upgrade first, depending on how extreme you want to go.

I get it, thanks.

I'm starting out with something, that someone else already started on, so I'm trying to figure where I need to "backtrack" to - to get things done correctly.

daddyjeep 12-12-2006 11:48 AM

Diesel conversion...kick ass. What motor did you use?????

As far as starting with the axles and gears, I have a concern. If ultimately you want to run 35's aren't 4.88's goung to be a little much on stock tires. I have also read some articles and posts about incrementally building your rig. This allows you to become a better driver as your rig becomes more capable. If you are a novice and build the biggest, baddest Jeep you still don't know how to use it There is the usual catch 22 thing here though. The best thing you can add to your Jeep is a locker, but if you want big tires you need to upgrade your axles. Do you throw your money away buying a lunch box locker for your crappy D35 when you want to replace it later? I don't think so. I went with a lift first so I could fit bigger tires. This satisfied me for a while, but now I want to go bigger. Now it is time to upgrade to D44's with lockers. I can still use my existing lift and cut away some sheet metal to clear bigger( I already made my flat fenders) tires or add a "small" body lift. Eventually a suspension overhaul will be in order. And body armour is never a bad idea. It all depends if you care how your Jeep looks.

Vector6 12-12-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddyjeep (Post 36691)
Diesel conversion...kick ass. What motor did you use?????

this is the engine I would use...
a CUMMINS 4BTA 3.9 LITER DIESEL
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN

:D

NWilhelm 12-12-2006 09:14 PM

I would do:

1st - Armor (cant go anywhere with out gas or oil)
2nd - Axles/gears/driveline
3rd - lift
4th - tires
5th - winch/recovery
6th - any other loose ends

just my .02

Nick

4Jeepn 12-12-2006 10:20 PM

1. Jan. Plan how I want to use the Jeep. Is it trail only, mix of trail and street, or is it my daily driver? Then once I Figure that out move to step 2.

2. Feb Going with trail jeep
I know I want to run bigger tires, thus I know I need to upgrade axle's, and gears and add lockers. spend this whole month researching these upgrades based on the tire size I am planning to go with, lets say 35's or larger. Get some price's as well.

3. Feb. Decide to go with Front and rear dana 60's. Allow about 3+ months build time for axle to be made by dynatrac in CA. Go with the pro-rock 60's 5.13's and ARB air lockers. (38 tires)

4. march while waiting for axles to be built and shipped. Look at tires, pick some I like. Oh wait I need new rims with the 60's.. the bolt pattern is now 5x5 1/2 vs stock TJ 5x41/2. Keep that in my notes. Have tires shipped to house, have custom rims made.

5. March. having done my rearch back in jan. I decide to order my lift kit. I go with a 5.5 long arm by RE. No sence in putting it on Jeep yet as the axle's are not read yet. So I also order some rocksliders, gas tank skid, and oil pan skid, along with roll cage

6. April.. still wait on those darn axles....

7. I recall something about the klune-v under drive and pop out 2k for it, figure that way I can have a 200-1 crawl ratio and blow those atlas wimps off the map. Again all on order

8. May. Order my Warn XD9000i winch.. why cuz it works and doen't do that thing my HS9000i does with the free spool.

9 June, figure the axles will be here soon, so I install the body armor cage, winch etc.

10. July... axles arrive.

12. Aug. Drive jeep to shop.. and have them install all the other crap... This should take a few weeks.

13. Shop calls have great deal on preimer power welder.. what the heck.. the control can go next to the GPS.

That is how I sort of built my jeep. Now I don't have everything listed above( heck no where near it..lol) cuz I did have a budget... okay according to my wife.. it was budget that kept going up and up... but The most important step is to plan out how you wish to use the jeep Then go from there.


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