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Blackbeard1718 01-31-2010 12:53 AM

Bumpers Assistance Please!
 
Shipmates!

This is your Captain speaking.....

I've been looking at a variety of Bumpers, mostly through Quadratec and 4WD. I'm wanting to Upgrade my Bumpers to something better than the Factory POS's currently on there. I'd something solid, that will absorb any incoming damage, rather than the occupants or the Jeep.

I told my wife I would cut holes into the tops of the off-going Stock Plastic Bumpers, paint them if necessary, place them on our deck in the back yard, and she could use them as Flower Planters! That's about the extent of their use, IMHO! http://www.maxi-scoots.com/postnuke/...iratelaugh.gif

Anyway..... the setup I currently have, is Factory Foglights in the bumper, a Pre-Runner Light Bar with Twin 6" KC-127 Slim Lite Fogs attached to the Pre-Runner Light Bar, shown here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...5/SSPX0196.jpg

Now, this is the criteria I need:

New bumpers must:

- Have Factory Fog cut-outs to fit Stock Fogs in there.
- Have a Hoop or Pre-Runner Light Bar to re-attach my KC's to.
- Must be Trail-Friendly to be able to attach a Tow Strap, to Pull/Be Pulled out if required.
- Be reasonably priced to fit my budget!

BTW, a Winch Capable Bumper is NOT going to be a criteria, as I don't intend to do any hardcore Krawlin', just some good off-road dirt and beach action.

The ones I'm focusing on right now, and that seem to fit my needs, are the Rugged Ridge Tube Bumpers in Textured Black. Here are their links:

Front Tube Bumper (Link)

Rear Tube Bumper (Link)

Side Step Bars (Link)

If you'll notice the prices listed in the above links, that's about the Price-Range I'm looking at, maybe a bit more.

I really liked the Smittybilt Bumpers, but the Front Bumper didn't have the Fog Cut-Outs. Bummer!

If ANYONE, has a bumper mounted like I'm looking for above, please show me some pics, and let me know your Pros/Cons of the bumper.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Cheers!

BB

Hilldweller 01-31-2010 05:09 AM

LoD and Red Rock Fab both make nice bumpers.
I have a Rugged Ridge but I came really really close to the LoD ---- 4WheelParts gave me a stupid-low price on the RR products though.

daggo66 01-31-2010 06:54 AM

I have the Rugged Ridge tube bumper. A lot of people on the forums dislike tube bumpers. I happen to like mine and that's what matters to me.

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...Picture016.jpg

However it is not going to meet all of your criteria. It doesn't have a recovery point, so I added one of these to the frame just below the bumper.
11236.02 - Tow Hook Kit Black Bolt On | Discount Jeep Parts

It also does not have a place to attach your KC lights. I recently added lights with a KC hood mount light bar but don't have any pictures yet. I was hoping to wire them today, but we got hit with 6 inches of snow yesterday and it's currently 14 degrees, so I'm thinking next weekend instead!

As an alternative you could mount you lights with windshield brackets.

Blackbeard1718 02-01-2010 12:09 AM

Thanks for the info, Shipmates!

Cheers!

BB

JIMBOX 02-01-2010 08:19 AM

:eek: Checkout the OLYMPIC bumpers in 4wdparts, they are in the $200 dollar range for the bumpers without winch plate and they have the fog light ports

Very good solid, powdercoated bumpers

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

whiteyj 02-01-2010 09:52 AM

You can't use a tube bumper as part of any recovery effort.

daggo66 02-01-2010 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyj (Post 535749)
You can't use a tube bumper as part of any recovery effort.

That's correct, however as I stated you can add hooks below the bumper to the frame.

yj-genral 02-01-2010 11:52 AM

i like the rugged ridge modular bumper but depending on the deal it might not be in your price range but it has recovery, light hoop, winch or no winch options, fog lights... and it looks good.

but might be pricey.

thaduke2003 02-01-2010 01:07 PM

Not a fan at all of tube bumpers, either by looks or for purpose. As stated, they are NOT for recovery use, and therefore about as useful as the OEM bumpers, without the benefit of being plastic, and therefore hammer-fixable.
Save up the extra $ and get a real, steel bumper. That's the best way to go. I have LoD bumpers on mine- took a deer head-on, and was rear-ended by a Focus at 30+ MPH- no damage to me, my vehicle, or my bumpers. Killed the deer, and toasted the front end of the Focus. Steel all the way- Mark W.

jk'n 02-01-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaduke2003 (Post 535851)
Not a fan at all of tube bumpers, either by looks or for purpose. As stated, they are NOT for recovery use, and therefore about as useful as the OEM bumpers, without the benefit of being plastic, and therefore hammer-fixable.
Save up the extra $ and get a real, steel bumper. That's the best way to go. I have LoD bumpers on mine- took a deer head-on, and was rear-ended by a Focus at 30+ MPH- no damage to me, my vehicle, or my bumpers. Killed the deer, and toasted the front end of the Focus. Steel all the way- Mark W.

Thanks for this info Mark, one of the things I would fear is replacing the stock bumpers and having more damage done during a collision than would have been caused with the stock bumper. This says a lot.

thaduke2003 02-01-2010 01:16 PM

Yep yep- I will tell you, not having experienced any hits with the OEM bumpers, but that 30 MPH lovetap from the Focus seemed to be rather mild on my end. Seems like her crumple zones did their job and then some. Since it was 100% her fault, I have no problem with that, BUT...
If it were my dumb arse hitting someone else, the steel bumpers MIGHT cause them more damage than OEM bumpers. So be aware- the steel does NOT deflect much, unlike most OEM bits. Just an FYI... Mark W.

jk'n 02-01-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaduke2003 (Post 535862)
Yep yep- I will tell you, not having experienced any hits with the OEM bumpers, but that 30 MPH lovetap from the Focus seemed to be rather mild on my end. Seems like her crumple zones did their job and then some. Since it was 100% her fault, I have no problem with that, BUT...
If it were my dumb arse hitting someone else, the steel bumpers MIGHT cause them more damage than OEM bumpers. So be aware- the steel does NOT deflect much, unlike most OEM bits. Just an FYI... Mark W.

OK, just to make sure I got this straight, steel bumpers minimizes damage to the jeep in most collisions but may cause more damage to the other vehicle that hits it?

thaduke2003 02-01-2010 01:23 PM

Bingo- as steel doesn't deflect much energy, it transfers it to the plastics most OEM's use for bumpers. So just don't hit anyone (if it's your fault), and life's alright ;)
Since we live in deer country, I'll tell you- I TOTALED that deer, with only a scuff mark on the bumper. THAT is quality insurance- beats $1K+ damage bills for everything else I've hit deer (that was kill #8!) with! Mark W.

yj-genral 02-01-2010 01:24 PM

perfect arent they :D

JIMBOX 02-01-2010 01:32 PM

:zap: Well, I admit, the stock bumpers aren't real heavy duty, but they're not plastic, thats just a facade, for fog lites, license plate and body curves !!

There's still a steel channel from frame side to side

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

Hilldweller 02-01-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 535867)
OK, just to make sure I got this straight, steel bumpers minimizes damage to the jeep in most collisions but may cause more damage to the other vehicle that hits it?

Right. Or the person that you hit.

New vehicle regulations mandated that vehicles be equipped in a way to minimize injury to pedestrians; that's one of the reasons for plastic bumpers and the sloped hood.
If you hit somebody with a steel bumper, winch, stinger, and chrome KC's, good night Irene... :wavey:

Not sure where the liability hammer would fall.

jk'n 02-01-2010 02:00 PM

Hmmmm....doesn't seem to stop peoples from farkling up their bumpers.

I tend to take it easy on the road and especially while approaching peoples, no matter what they are doing on the road: bicycling, walking/running, picking up the center line(s), etc. especially since I like to participate in those sports, save the line plucking. I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of a close call on the road. I try to be mindful from both sides of the bumper and exercise extra care. Most drivers don't realize that bicycles have the same rights on the road as do vehicles and pedestrians have even more rights. I digress. Thanks for the reminder of the dangers of a solid bumper system.

Hilldweller 02-01-2010 02:07 PM

But, then again, run them over with a Nates 4x4 Zombie-Killer bumper and you get sued once. Maim a person with the OE bumper and the law suit lasts for decades...

daggo66 02-01-2010 03:04 PM

!
 
My main goal in life is to avoid smashing into things! :D The reason OEM bumpers are designed to absorb the blow is to protect the occupants of the vehicle rater than the vehicle itself.

bchapin3 02-15-2010 08:52 PM

Rugged Ridge Bumper Rust
 
I would NOT recommend the Rugged Ridge tube bumpers. I put mine on in December and while they look pretty good, they are already rusting on the outside seams and around the fog lights. Apparently that is not unusual. I am currently trying to get Rugged Ridge to take them back but since I have owned them over the ninety day limited warranty period but it isn't looking good...

daggo66 02-16-2010 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchapin3 (Post 547225)
I would NOT recommend the Rugged Ridge tube bumpers. I put mine on in December and while they look pretty good, they are already rusting on the outside seams and around the fog lights. Apparently that is not unusual. I am currently trying to get Rugged Ridge to take them back but since I have owned them over the ninety day limited warranty period but it isn't looking good...

Mine has been on since July with no issues. Check your warranty again. I believe it is much longer.

priell3 02-16-2010 08:31 AM

I have the Olympic Rock Bumper on order. I like the look of their products and made in USA.

APPSTATEwrangler 02-16-2010 09:49 AM

the RR tubes look nice,
but IMO they are not strong during any impact at all ,
i gave this van a slight love tap at 5-10mph, just a little dent on the vans lift gate, but bent my tube bumper pretty good...

Tpr5318 02-16-2010 06:12 PM

I was basically looking for the same thing, I.E. Factory Fog Lamp holes, durability... I went with the Rugged Ridge Modular XHD bumper powder black with the U bar on top. I am still waiting for it to arrive, ordered it last week. The website I used had the cheapest price but turns out gets awful reviews for customer service. Wish I googled them before I ordered :banghead: I called yesterday and they said it would ship today and I would receive a tracking email. Well its not 7pm and I didnt receive the email.....:banghead:

canoeman 02-20-2010 08:00 AM

How did you get my Jeep? LOL


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