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kik 02-07-2010 05:30 PM

LED Tail Lamps?
 
I was thinking about getting the LED Tail Lamps for my 10 Rubicon. Any recommendations?

WranglerX2009 02-07-2010 06:58 PM

Um, haven't tried, nor even seen them in person. I was looking at them online, but they are pretty pricey.....

JKRubi 02-07-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kik (Post 540729)
I was thinking about getting the LED Tail Lamps for my 10 Rubicon. Any recommendations?

I am looking to i think the LED style looks real nice not bad price at 200-300 either just think never replace another bulb

Hilldweller 02-08-2010 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JKRubi (Post 540862)
I am looking to i think the LED style looks real nice not bad price at 200-300 either just think never replace another bulb

Buy a pack of 3157 bulbs from NAPA and for $12 you'll have replacement bulbs for the life of the Jeep...

Buy the things that get you unstuck, save your life, ease your travels first.
Then the bling.
Eat your veggies before desert.

Ape 02-08-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 541021)
Buy the things that get you unstuck, save your life, ease your travels first.
Then the bling.
Eat your veggies before desert.

Not quite sure that was the advice the original poster was looking for.

Kik... check these out.
Pilot Automotive Plug-n-Play LED Tail Lamp Set for 07-10 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

USAntigoon 02-08-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape (Post 541281)
Not quite sure that was the advice the original poster was looking for.

Kik... check these out.
Pilot Automotive Plug-n-Play LED Tail Lamp Set for 07-10 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Same tail lamps here for much less.
I have a set of those and might return them. The load resistor is not heavy enough to avoid fast flashing of the direction indicators..It flashes OK at idle, but once you get going it takes almost 15 fast flashes before she goes to normal flashing rate..I am in contact with these guys to get is resolved .. Will keep you posted..

p.s The backup light is NON LED.. just FYI...

jerryj 02-08-2010 02:40 PM

Genright sells some, I like theirs they are 180$ get rid of the trailer lights.

Hilldweller 02-08-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape (Post 541281)
Not quite sure that was the advice the original poster was looking for.

They asked for recommendations.
My recommendation is to avoid the product...

Most of those cosmetic electronic bling accessories are pretty poorly assembled from bits and pieces. Wiring in a few resistors is like throwing an electric blanket in your tail-light.

sctrey99 02-08-2010 03:34 PM

I can see wanting to spend the money on off road lights like kc slims to help the driver see better, but I cant justify the trouble of switching to LEDs, muchless the price.

USAntigoon 02-08-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 541294)
They asked for recommendations.
My recommendation is to avoid the product...

Most of those cosmetic electronic bling accessories are pretty poorly assembled from bits and pieces. Wiring in a few resistors is like throwing an electric blanket in your tail-light.

Do you think that they will become that hot.. For a flash cycle of 20-30 flashes,,?

USAntigoon 02-08-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryj (Post 541290)
Genright sells some, I like theirs they are 180$ get rid of the trailer lights.

I didn't found any for a Wrangler JK.. Can you post a link, I might have missed it.. Thanks

Ape 02-08-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by USAntigoon (Post 541287)
Same tail lamps here for much less.
I have a set of those and might return them. The load resistor is not heavy enough to avoid fast flashing of the direction indicators..It flashes OK at idle, but once you get going it takes almost 15 fast flashes before she goes to normal flashing rate..I am in contact with these guys to get is resolved .. Will keep you posted..

p.s The backup light is NON LED.. just FYI...

Good feedback, info. :thumbsup:

kik 02-08-2010 05:22 PM

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about getting the Pilot LED's, but I don't like that they're not flashing normally (fast flashing regarding what US Antigoon indicated). For the price I would hope that they would operate correctly. At this point, back to Hilldweller's recommendation and buy a pack of 3157's. I think the LED's would have had a nice look, but until they can get them to work properly, I'll pass.

USAntigoon 02-08-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kik (Post 541404)
Thanks for the info. I was thinking about getting the Pilot LED's, but I don't like that they're not flashing normally (fast flashing regarding what US Antigoon indicated). For the price I would hope that they would operate correctly. At this point, back to Hilldweller's recommendation and buy a pack of 3157's. I think the LED's would have had a nice look, but until they can get them to work properly, I'll pass.

I will keep this thread updated once I have a solution from Pilot Automotive ...I told them that their "Fitness for use" Quality is being discussed here...

Footnote: Again an example of the aftermarket industry jumping on the ban-wagon without doing any field tests and customer validation..

Hilldweller 02-09-2010 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by USAntigoon (Post 541433)
Footnote: Again an example of the aftermarket industry jumping on the ban-wagon without doing any field tests and customer validation..

Post it up on Candlepower Forums in the automotive section and get a better evaluation.
Most of the bling items are being shoved out of sweatshops in developing countries with zero testing or qc. It's hard to tell what's real and what's about to set you on fire.

kik 02-09-2010 05:51 PM

I'll tell ya, everytime I read the ad about these lights that they work flawlessly with your stock flasher it burns my ***. I'd like to thank USAntigoon again for reporting on this problem with this product.

JerseyJK 02-10-2010 09:30 PM

anyone check these out? I was thinking of getting them myself.
Jeep Wrangler JK LED Tail Lights

yotefever 02-10-2010 09:45 PM

Here is a link to a place that sells a bunch of different led products including a new flasher or load resistor so that they flash. There isn't enough load with the led's to make the flasher work properly.
These aren't lite assemblies just led replacement bulbs.
Super Bright LEDs - Brake Light, Turn Light and Tail Light Bulbs

JIMBOX 02-10-2010 09:56 PM

:rolleyes: Ever notice "stop lights" or "GO" lights, that are half burned out ???

Somebody said that LED lights "never fail"

Rats, there goes the neighborhood !!

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

Hilldweller 02-11-2010 04:22 AM

Start a thread on Candlepower Forum and get an informed answer; asking a bunch of gearheads to speculate on semiconductors is like asking your grand-mom to program your dvr...

CandlePowerForums

rocknmiss 02-11-2010 05:51 AM

KiK,
Don't do it! Going through hell with Crystal Eyes now, thought they would look neat, they do , but you own a Jeep, not a Honda! I have less than 20k on an 03 TJ, Had tail lights on Jeep less than a year, Over half the lamps on pass. side are out and the driver side is following! @ $279, this is not something I want to replace every year!


Just something to think about, I'm going back to stock!

kik 02-11-2010 10:59 AM

I'm definately, NOT getting any LED tail lights, etc. for my Rubicon. I don't care how many flashers/resistors they have. Sticking with what it was born with good old fashion bulbs, just like the classic that it is. However, I did follow Hilldweller's advice and I put in the Phillips + 80 head lamps. They work great. Thanks for all the input on this it saved me almost 300.00.

WranglerX2009 02-11-2010 08:35 PM

These are the ones I was looking at:

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/a...ntitled-78.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!Be4rJegB2k~...jrGGQ~~_35.JPG

But at close to 400 bucks, I figure I can find more useful mods.

hig4s 02-11-2010 08:56 PM

They are cool, but at the price I don't see the point.. I did add an LED Tail/brake light alone with LED turn signals to my motorcycle. But that is because on a motorcycle you want to make sure you are seen and don't get run over.

Most people don't miss noticing a Jeep Wrangler, and if they do I doubt LED lights would have helped..

But this place has LED 3157 and 194 bulbs
Motorcycle LED Light Bulbs
go to the bottom of the page

USAntigoon 03-06-2010 07:00 PM

Got a new set from Pilot Automotive and the same is happening.. fast flasher rate..
I still cannot understand how they do their field testing prior releasing their product into the market..

I am in discussion with their Sales Manager and will stick with it until resolved..
Just a matter of principle..

Badfish 03-06-2010 07:49 PM

^ im sorry for your troubles but all they need is somethinkg like this Load Resistor Kit all it does is create enough of a load that the bad bulb indicator, fast turn signal, will stay off. its simple a led doesnt draw near as much current as a incandescent bulb so you need to create it.

USAntigoon 03-06-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Badfish (Post 563829)
^ im sorry for your troubles but all they need is somethinkg like this Load Resistor Kit all it does is create enough of a load that the bad bulb indicator, fast turn signal, will stay off. its simple a led doesnt draw near as much current as a incandescent bulb so you need to create it.

They have load resistors.. But they are not pulling enough amps to simulate the OEM load.. The RH flasher unit will, once in a while, go to a normal rate after 10 cycles..(I believe the feed length to the RH tail lights might be a bit longer than the LH feed, hence more resistance.)
The LH side will never go to a normal flashing rate..
This just proves how "marginal" they have designed the circuitry and the load resistor..

I can fix that.. but that is not the issue .. I want THEM to fix it..their name is on the product..
Badfish I appreciate your comments and suggestions tough..

Hilldweller 03-07-2010 06:34 AM

Think capacitor, not resistor.
That's all the hint I'll give; I still won't give the Hilldweller seal of approval for these things...

USAntigoon 03-07-2010 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 564138)
Think capacitor, not resistor.
That's all the hint I'll give; I still won't give the Hilldweller seal of approval for these things...

My friend please explain a bit more.. I am bad with "carrots" in front of me..;)
(I thought this was a resistor and not a capacitor)

Yes I know your "reading" about LED's.. Honestly I have to agree with you.. But I still like to explore and learn a bit..
TNX

Hilldweller 03-07-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by USAntigoon (Post 564171)
My friend please explain a bit more.. I am bad with "carrots" in front of me..;)
(I thought this was a resistor and not a capacitor)

Yes I know your "reading" about LED's.. Honestly I have to agree with you.. But I still like to explore and learn a bit..
TNX

I'm thinking that a capacitor would work better than a resistor to fool the system.

We sold our superconductor division years ago though and I don't have anybody to ask.
Post it on CPF and you'll get a more thorough answer. One that would work too...


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