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rripror 02-22-2010 03:58 PM

Dumb question?
 
...if i decided to buy tires and rims over the internet, say from discount tires.com, would they assemble and balance them for me THEN send them to me so i can just pop them on myself? or is that a dumb question?:eek:

...if not, do you think my local tire shop would be upset if i bought the tires and rims off the internet, have them sent to me unassembled, then have the local tire shop install and balance the tires that i didn't buy from them?:zap:

InfernoGirl 02-22-2010 04:08 PM

You can do it either way. Most internet places that sell tires will mount and balance them prior to shipping them. Or you can have them shipped to a local tire store and for a small fee, roughly 15 per wheel they will mount and balance them for you. They don't mind, they get paid for it, although it is nice to try to give them some sort of business if you can. This option is particularly helpful if your wheels and tires are coming from two different locations. Confirm that your local store can't match or beat your internet price. Shipping wheels and tires gets pretty expensive.

rripror 02-22-2010 04:28 PM

...the reason i ask is, im sure their ( tire shop ) probably gonna have to order the tires and rims im looking at any way (bf goodrich TA/KO's or nitto A/T terra grapplers and black rock 909's type-D's) that i thought i'd just skip the middleman.:flipoff:

...and of course i just trade the local/state taxes for shipping costs.:mad: lunch is cheap , but never free.:)

...thanks 'infernogirl'.

InfernoGirl 02-22-2010 04:38 PM

I just went through this myself a couple of weeks ago. For me the difference in tax vs. shipping was enough to make it worth while to "pay more" locally for them, than to order them at a lower "price" and then have shipping/installation fees. And getting them locally means I can have road hazard, and free rotations. Worth it for me. Yes my tire place had to order my wheels too, but it didn't take more than a few days to get them. Just do your homework, and make sure you are really getting the deal you think you are.

PecosRiver 02-22-2010 04:53 PM

My tire shop gets his order every Thursday. If I plan on getting new tires, Iíll stop by and talk to the owner about pricing and my needs on Monday or Tuesday. I have yet to beat his prices on the internet.

Like InfernoGirl said, the long term savings of buying local canít be beat. I also like the fact that if I have a problem with one of the tires, I can resolve the issue locally.

kik 02-22-2010 05:22 PM

It's a legit question. I always prefer to do business at a local tire shop. For me, there was always more advantages than buying over the internet. Talk to your local guy and see what they say. I bet you'll do better locally.

rripror 02-22-2010 05:27 PM

...all good points.:doh:

...guess i'll burn around the 'web' and get a good idea, then head to the 'ole brick & mortar' tire shops.:D

...by the way, '4WD hardware.com' had the stock replacement 4 'nitto grapplers', 4 'black rock series 909 type-D's, hi-speed mounting and shipping for 1417.81.

...got to fight the easy impulse of the internet purchase.:blunt:

Eddie 02-22-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kik (Post 553363)
It's a legit question. I always prefer to do business at a local tire shop. For me, there was always more advantages than buying over the internet. Talk to your local guy and see what they say. I bet you'll do better locally.

A big + 1

Its great to go in educated, but Id buy something like that locally. I won't buy anything on the net I don't fully plan to do myself...And tire mounting on rims isnt one of em :) It's one of those bring your own eggs and bacon to the breakfast chef to me I guess.

Blackbeard1718 02-22-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PecosRiver (Post 553328)

I also like the fact that if I have a problem with one of the tires, I can resolve the issue locally.


This remark is "KEY", when buying Wheels and Tires! For example, I just did this same thing about a month ago. I bought new Wheels, Black Rock Viper 900's, from 4WD. However, I made my purchase through Discount Tire locally, which has a store less than 3 miles from my house. For my needs, Discount Tire, can order ANY TIRE and ANY WHEEL, from anywhere I want. The GREAT thing is, they'll be delivered to Discount Tire (or your Local Tire Store, as already mentioned in other posts above...), and they'll do the Match-Mounting, Balancing, Mounting, and any Warranties you want. The Warranties for the Wheels and Tires, are good there, at the Brick & Mortar Store..... and you don't have to worry about dealing with the Internet Seller. I hope this makes sense.

This way, if there's a problem with the Wheels & Tires later on, you can go back to the Local Dealer that ordered them for you, and they'll take care of it right then and there.

BTW... GOOD Question! NOT a Dumb Question! The only Dumb Question, is the one not asked!

Best of Luck!

Cheers!

BB

DeanLinAZ 02-22-2010 08:36 PM

Tire Rack's web site has a listing of Tire Rack "approved" tire shops in your local area that will mount tires drop shipped to their store by Tire Rack.

I have done this several times with great results.

If you are buying new rims, you might as well let the internet seller mount them for you. I also did this once with so-so results.

Good luck.

DeanLinAZ
2007 Sahara six-speed

jacob7956 02-24-2010 12:21 AM

Just go to your local discount tire. They will order anything from anywhere and match prices.

h2otoo 02-24-2010 06:00 AM

FYI, I was on Discount Tire's web site and contacted them about the price guarantee. Never heard back from them. Another vote for dealing with a face instead of a web site.

Bob:wavey:

InfernoGirl 02-24-2010 07:26 AM

Not everyone has a Discount Tire locally. Nearest one to me is 4 hours.... I did talk to them about price matching and they told me by the time you figured in shipping, etc. that it worked out, so the price I had was as good as it was going to get... And I had to drive 4 hours to get them!

JIMBOX 02-24-2010 08:05 AM

:) Another reason I buy most my stuff from 4wheelparts--except for tires/wheels, I buy them in my town (except one-of's)

They have two spots within 45 minutes of my place in CA and 1 in NV

Location-location-location

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

rripror 02-24-2010 03:24 PM

hey folks, well i went ahead and bought my tires and wheels.........on the inter net!:bottom:

...hit a shop in town (tires plus) and he really couldn't beat the price of '4WD.com' and besides, he couldn't get me the 'nitto terra grapplers' that i ended up going with.:rolleyes:

...so i'll be a guinea pig for future tire seekers. expect a full report.:blunt::rofl:

...went with the 'pro-comp series 7069's' also.:punk:

Blackbeard1718 02-24-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 554592)
:) Another reason I buy most my stuff from 4wheelparts--except for tires/wheels, I buy them in my town (except one-of's)

They have two spots within 45 minutes of my place in CA and 1 in NV

Location-location-location

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO


Jim!

Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Mine is just down the road from me, and there's another one about 13 miles down the road from that one.

Like Infernogirl, when I was in Virginia, I had to drive 4 hours to North Carolina to take advantage of Discount Tires business.

Cheers!

BB

JIMBOX 02-25-2010 07:47 AM

:D Thanx BB, I actually have three here in the Ca., SFNorthBay, one in Santa Rosa, one in Sacramento, one in Los Angeles

So usually my arders are delivered, in 3 days, or if not on sale Ill have them delivered to Sac and go pickup--Ain't it great ??

Good day

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

Slither302 02-25-2010 09:48 AM

I dealt wih the local shops and with discount tire etc. Sometimes the local shop can't/won't get what you are looking for or they try to sell you something "better". Never had any probs with d. tire and it's nice to be able to take the wheel/tireout of the box and just mount it up. Although I will say holding a 285mm tire monuted to a 20" wheel while trying to install the lug nuts can be challenging!

rripror 04-22-2010 08:53 PM

...back with report. my tires and rims finally showed up today...almost exactly 2 months since i ordered them on the internet.:eek:

...ordered the nitto terra grapplers and was told there was a 2.5 week BO and was asked if id like to choose a different tire. no, i could wait a couple 3 weeks not a problem.

...six weeks later im still waiting and decide to switch tires to 265/70r 17 bf goodrich km2's. i know, completely different tire and 60-70 bucks more per tire.

...not only that but i was told that you have to have 'tpms' sensors installed in your tires if the vehicle came stock with them , federal law.:banghead:

...wrong. send them to me un-assembled and i'll have the local shop do it for me ...sans tpms! they were gonna nick me 40 bucks a piece!:(

...local dealer said as long as the rims were 'after market' they'll abide my wishes.:punk:

...bought an 'aev pro-cal' for a buck fifty w/ no shipping to turn off the low tire light and bell and im good to go.:flipoff:

...assemble and balance 4 tires for a $101.00.

...i got a say the weight on these km2's is something, their monsters even at basically stock replacement size. what the heck does a 35" tire weigh?:confused: holy crap.

...throw 'em on tomorrow. pic's to come.:D:blunt::wavey:

InfernoGirl 04-22-2010 09:57 PM

Thanks for the update. So, in your opinion, did you save anything, by shopping on the 'net? We have purchased tires on the 'net before a couple of times, with good outcome. I'm just not sure we really saved much $ by the time all was said and done.

Glad you finally got your tires :)

daggo66 04-23-2010 06:07 AM

Why did you go with a smaller tire? Stock size is 255 70R17 which is 32". 265 70R17 is 31".

birdhunter 04-23-2010 06:59 AM

WHY is it people ask a ????
Then everyone says one thing ,then
they do another ???
Do what ever you want thats fine no problem
What a joke

Kate 04-23-2010 07:52 AM

Last year I bought a set of Cooper Discoverer STTs through treadepot.com.
Primarily because I live in a VERY rural area and there are no Cooper dealers within an hours drive of me.
I took them to a local shop and had them mounted and balanced... no problem with that, but it did add $56 to the cost of the tires.

They TRIED to get them balanced. Two of the tires were defective, would not balance. We did weights AND added balancing beads to no avail. The guys at the shop worked for a couple of hours trying to get them to cooperate.

I called Treadepot, they shipped me two new tires right away, (they were there in two or three days) and picked up the other two a few days later. All on their nickle. Excellent customer service!

The two new ones they sent were fine, but the Coopers never did really please me. Actually, I hated them. I bought them because they were more affordable.

Fast forward 6 months, I am please to once again be riding on a new set of 12.50 15 35 Dick Cepek Mud Countrys. Thanks to the folks at Micky Thompson tires!

I think that buying from someone that you can look in the eye has real advantages. I bought my original Cepeks through Rough Country. They're about an hours drive from us and have always given outstanding customer service and I can't find a better price on these tires anywhere.
When it's time to replace these tires, I'll definitely go back to them.

rripror 04-23-2010 08:58 AM

...man, i smelled some stinky cheese in this thread.:zap:

...when you can't find what you want at a 'brick&mortar' shop you head to the 'internet'...not real tough to figure out....for some.:banghead:

...on the deal, i think it was a wash sans the waiting for the 'nittos'. if i would of went with the km2s originally im sure i would of gotten them within a week of ordering 'em.

...4wd.com did send me a $60.00 gift card. might have to get a rear floor mat.;)

...hey, and i gave a little business to two different shops.:) just trying to help stimulate the economy.:doh:

zabooda 04-23-2010 02:50 PM

Free Change Outs at Some Tire Places
 
I got my tires and wheels at a Les Schwab dealer that are common in the West and they will swap out my 33's for my stock tires and rims. When I travel to the Oregon coast this summer I will have my 33's in the trailer and stop at a dealership for the swap and then change back when I head home. It will save 700 miles on my fat boys. I hope they aren't too busy otherwise I got a free lunch...popcorn... yum...yum.

rripror 04-23-2010 05:07 PM

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...well i got the tires on today. they look great. and yes they ride rough.:doh:'

...been 30 years since i had big meats on my shortbox dodge power wagon.:)

...took it for a short spin and in that short time i lost 4/10ths of a mpg. not bad considering the jeep feels like a lumber wagon now.:eek:

...did a crude weight comparison and the stock tire and rim weighs 61lbs. and the 17x9 pro-comp series 7069 with the 265/70r17 km2 weighs 79 lbs. roughly 18 lbs. per wheel more...feels like more.:rolleyes:

...stock diameter=31.5 roughly. new setup=31.75. i can say i bought 'bigger' tires.:flipoff:;)

rripror 04-23-2010 05:11 PM

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...tail feather view.

Kate 04-23-2010 05:30 PM

They look real good!

Let just a smidge of air out of them, the ride will soften considerably!

rripror 04-23-2010 06:58 PM

...thanks kate, just got back from another spin. lumber wagon city, but i love the look.:wavey:

...what are ya thinking for psi? i didn't ask them at the tire shop what was put in for air.:confused they did ship with a hunk of chalk though. is the 'chalk method' still considered a reliable/best way to go? might have to try that.

...'tpms' sensor finally went off at about the 30 mile mark also. pro-cal to the rescue.:firedevil:

Kate 04-23-2010 07:35 PM

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I'd say to check and see what your pressure is right now, and go from there.
I run my 35's at 28psi. You might want to try 30 and see how that feels. Do a chalk check on them and see how they're sitting.

I got my new tires on too! I'm SO HAPPY!
Man I missed my Cepeks, and now, they feel soooOOoo good on my Heep!
I can hardly wait to get back out on the trail with them.


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