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Serg 12-19-2006 09:18 PM

Lockers
 
I have an 02 Wrangler Sport everything is stock except for a 4" suspension lift. Want to improve my off-road capabilities.....
What do you all suggest as far as getting traction to all 4 wheels?

mrbigjeep 12-19-2006 09:47 PM

most love arbs. its an open diff when its not engaged so it's not noticeable on the road and you can engage it offroad any time you want. cost is high and you do have to have some sort of air source. only bad thing i've heard is that the air lines can break and then if they do you can't use the lockers until you get the new lines. a lot of guys on here run arbs and love them.

thats probably what i'd do if i was gettin lockers. im sure some others will chime in.

4Jeepn 12-19-2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Serg (Post 39434)
I have an 02 Wrangler Sport everything is stock except for a 4" suspension lift. Want to improve my off-road capabilities.....
What do you all suggest as far as getting traction to all 4 wheels?

So what is it that your Jeep is not capable of off-road that you wish to improve? Also what type and size tire are you running with your lift?

Serg 12-19-2006 10:31 PM

I have 33" tires with the 4" lift. I want traction on all four wheels. I have been in a situation where one tire is off the ground and all power is reverted to the one loosing traction (slip differential).

MR.CLIFFORD 12-19-2006 10:39 PM

Another cheaper alternative is a lunchbox style locker like a no slip. They are easy to install and will do what you want off road yet will allow you no problems on road plus you don't have to have your gears reset.

4Jeepn 12-20-2006 08:34 AM

Okay, now which rear axle do you have. If you have the dana 35 in the back putting a locker back there will up the chances of the axle going poof...and you being stuck on the trail. If you have the dana 44 then all should be well. However you may find that either a lunchbox locker such as a lockright, or if you have the cash an arb in the front will make a world of difference. Of course, they do sell upgradekits for the dana 35 that include a locker and stronger axle shafts which many people run with no issues.

BILLG 12-20-2006 08:59 PM

You might also consider The Detroit Tru-Trac limited slip.Bill

Serg 12-22-2006 09:48 AM

I have stock axles, I am guessing 35. So, what exacly is a lunch box locker?

MR.CLIFFORD 12-22-2006 11:00 AM

You can check your rear diff cover. If there is a plastic plug there you have the 35. If it is a steel plug you have a 44.

A lunch box style locker replaces only the spider gears.

Like this...

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/tech/lockright1.htm

RioGrande95 12-22-2006 12:10 PM

Locking a stock 35 with 33" tires sounds a little risky to me. If you want to lock the rear I would suggest upgraded axle shafts to go with it. Depending on how much $$ you have I would suggest putting a lunch box in your front axle. It will hardly be noticeable on the street because your forward drive shaft is not engaged in 2wd. If you break the Dana 30 the odds of you still being able to drive home are higher than if you break the D35.

This will buy you time to save up and upgrade axle shafts and install a locker in the D35 all at once. I am pretty sure if you install the shafts and locker separately it will cost more and you may end up buying redundant parts you just throw away. If you upgrade the front lunch box later, you could probably sell it to help cover its cost. Say lunch box costs $250 you sell it used for $100, thats about $150 for a few years of a locked front diff, not a bad way to go! The one real down fall to throwing a lunch box into your front diff is I have read mixed reviews of how they handle on packed snow and ice in 4wd.

Serg 12-23-2006 03:35 PM

Thanks for the info...

hazmat 12-23-2006 06:31 PM

would a detroit locker in a 44 handle snow and ice well ? also would there be any issues w/ a mostly street driven jeep ? breakage , drivability etc. this is for a dd.

mrbigjeep 12-23-2006 07:03 PM

if the rear were to lock up in the snow i would think that it could slide right out from under you.

hazmat 12-24-2006 12:34 PM

so a detroit is a no go on snow and roads ? looking at 44's every body offers them w/ an ox an arb or a detroit which would be best for snow and ice ?

Jerry Bransford 12-24-2006 01:58 PM

As a Jeeper who loves the strength and simplicity of the Detroit Locker in his rear axle, go with an ARB Air Locker if you drive on ice or snow covered roads a lot. :)

1BLKJP 12-25-2006 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hazmat (Post 40471)
so a detroit is a no go on snow and roads ? looking at 44's every body offers them w/ an ox an arb or a detroit which would be best for snow and ice ?

If driving on slick or snowy roads is a factor where you live then any kind of selectable locker I.E. ARB/OX/Eaton etc... will be the ticket for you.

Triple88a 12-25-2006 09:50 AM

I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?

mrbigjeep 12-25-2006 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 40689)
I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?

if its slippier then that means its gonna be constantly locking up.

bluvikng 12-25-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 40689)
I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?

No need to be confused, having both rear wheels turning at the same time, and at the same speed, is not good on slippery surfaces. It will not harm the locker, it will cause your vehicle to loose traction (break loose), that is all that is being said here. It works great off road, but not on slippery surfaces. You loose control of your vehicle, easier.

That is why having a selectable locker, is more desirable, and safer, and all around, moe better.

hazmat 12-25-2006 12:50 PM

I have seen the eatons advertised on northridge 4x4 I believe . Is this a limited slip when not locked like the ected ? If not any one know where I can get a dana 44 setup w/ an ected and 4.56's ?

4Jeepn 12-25-2006 01:58 PM

Having run a detroit on snow covered roads.. it did fine.. no issues really to speak of. This was in the rear. Now having a lock-right up front and a limited slip in the rear... was a nightmare. Pulling everyplace..thus full time in rear okay... in front not so good.


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