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Lenc 05-05-2010 05:27 PM

Need replacement full steel door with light weight door
 
Hi All,

I work for a water utility that has 2 TJ model Wranglers and 1 JK model Wranglers. They are equipped with hard tops - looks like they are probably from Bestop. All are currently equipped with full steel doors. Our meter readers use these vehicles in the course of their job.

As the Safety Coordinator, I have just learned that they typically drive the Jeeps to the area where they are going to be reading, and then remove the door, placing it in the rear. They do this process to avoid the cold and wet here in Washington they are exposed to while driving to the day's work area.

As the Safety Coordinator, that gives me some heartburn when I think of the ergonomics involved in removing the door then lifting it into the back of the rig. One of our readers managed to mash a finger while unloading the door from the back of the rig.

So . . . I am trying to find a light-weight alternative to the heavy full steel door. Naturally, Bestop says that their doors for their soft top units will not work with the hard top. Do any of you have experience with such a retrofit?

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I and our meter readers would be real happy campers!

Thanks. [I am posting this same thread in both the TJ and JK forums.]

Be safe out there!

jwm1986 05-05-2010 08:59 PM

I am not aware of anything that can be done with a full door. There are all kinds of fiber glass half doors out there, but as you stated, that won't do much good with a hard top.

Wyominer 05-05-2010 09:40 PM

I have a hard top (not original), with half doors and fiberglass uppers'slidders. Removing the uppers is easy, and the door isn't that hard to remove either. What about a canvass door?

s3nt3nc3d 05-05-2010 10:18 PM

http://www.quadratec.com/products/55014_900.htm

Unless your meter readers carry allen wrenches with them, this should prevent any mashed fingers or heavy lifting. Or attach them and then use a drill to round them off. Now that's TRUE security!

Sorry...can't help you out otherwise.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...%ae+Soft+Doors

I would think the soft doors offered by Bestop would work at least with the bottom half. The top half I'm trying to figure out the difference. Send a PM to Geoff@Bestop also...he may see this thread anyway, but he works for Bestop and may be able to discuss WHY the soft doors won't work with a hard top. It could be something simple like, they'll work but they won't seal properly...which for the work your guys are doing may not be crucial. Put hard doors on back at the main building when necessary, otherwise run the full softies. Just some ideas.

distortedtj 05-05-2010 11:01 PM

Agreed, Bestop makes full soft doors for both the TJ and JK that work with the hard top.

Geoff@Bestop 05-06-2010 09:17 AM

Soft doors should work fine. The conflict between hardtops and soft tops is only on YJ.

A few years ago we made plastic molded doors. They were not a success in the marketplace, but boy would they work for you. It might be worth calling Collins Brothers Jeep and seeing if they still have some (Collins buys a lot of our, um, less-popular stuff in bulk).

Also, we make a new door called "Element Doors" - they start as tube doors, but if you add the metal enclosures and weatherstripping they're nice solid half doors. Not as light as the fabric doors, but more secure.

Frat36 05-06-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 617607)
A few years ago we made plastic molded doors. They were not a success in the marketplace, but boy would they work for you. .

Geoff, from what I have heard, you guys should try bring those back into production for the JK. Most JKs come with full doors and I have heard that it is really hard to find a solid half door (besides the element doors). Just a thought.

Geoff@Bestop 05-06-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frat36 (Post 617632)
Geoff, from what I have heard, you guys should try bring those back into production for the JK. Most JKs come with full doors and I have heard that it is really hard to find a solid half door (besides the element doors). Just a thought.

There's definitely a hole in the marketplace for JK half doors. The problem is that JK owners are notoriously picky (not you guys, but all the others :p). They want electric windows, tight perfect fits with no adjusting, high levels of fit and finish, and color matched. That's all possible, but it's not cheap. As Chrysler/Jeep/Mopar get back going again, they're solving some of these problems. You can now get JK half doors in a "parts bundle," where before you needed to order everything separately. So it's cheaper.

Lenc 05-10-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff@Bestop (Post 617607)
Soft doors should work fine. The conflict between hardtops and soft tops is only on YJ.

A few years ago we made plastic molded doors. They were not a success in the marketplace, but boy would they work for you. It might be worth calling Collins Brothers Jeep and seeing if they still have some (Collins buys a lot of our, um, less-popular stuff in bulk).

Also, we make a new door called "Element Doors" - they start as tube doors, but if you add the metal enclosures and weatherstripping they're nice solid half doors. Not as light as the fabric doors, but more secure.

Thanks, Geoff, I have been offline a few days. Before I saw your post today, I confirmed by phone with Bestop Customer Service, that contrary to what I had first been told (or understood), your 2-piece soft doors will, in fact, work with the hardtops. :)

My thanks to all who have taken the time and interest in posting to this request for information.


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