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TJfun 05-22-2010 12:53 AM

To wave or not to wave. The Jeep wave
 
Just wondering if you wave at other jeeps as they pass by and what your thoughts were on this?

drivebytruckerz 05-22-2010 01:04 AM

Of course.. you should wave at all CJs and Wranglers.. it's a tradition.

Vaultzz 05-22-2010 02:36 AM

And lifted cherokees, grand cherokees... ect, as you see fit :)

Basicly any Jeeper

CMEvans79 05-22-2010 06:48 AM

ALL CJ's and Wranglers and any JEEP that looks like they actually attempt to use it for its intended purpose ... I saw a compass with a lift and I guess it was a "Rally" kit and had mud on it... they got the wave from me.

pakman55 05-22-2010 06:56 AM

If you dont wave to a CJ or Wrangler, the Jeep gods will make your day ******.

If you dont wave to an "offroad" Jeep, you are given a strike, 3 strikes and your day is going to be shitty.

If a jeeper cj or wrangler dosnt return a wave, it is a requirement to chase them down and slap them across the face.

TJfun 05-22-2010 07:49 AM

That's interesting. I never wave due to the fact that I don't feel like I now belong to a secret brother/sisterhood just because I now own a Jeep. I will wave if I know you though.

My fiances mother was all excited when she bought a Jeep a few years ago and found people would wave when she drove it. Of course, she had it for a couple of years and only had 1400 miles on it by the time she sold it.

I told my fiance I just don't wave because I don't like to pretend I'm a part of a group that I'm not actually a part of because we both have Jeeps. Just because I see a stranger driving a Jeep doesn't mean we are automatically buds because we drive similar vehicles. Now if we meet, chat, and wheel together........ then I'll wave. I guess that's just the rebel side in me.

N39-W120 05-22-2010 07:57 AM

Be forgiving of those leaving the mall parking lot, for the do not understand

TJfun 05-22-2010 08:04 AM

I just read somewhere on one of the threads that the tradition was based on saluting military staff then evolving into a wave in the civilian world. That was an interesting tid-bit of info.

I think I just have an issue with conforming to a tradition and not actually having to earn it. I am very prejudice against Harley Davidson bikes and their riders for this very reason. It is almost like buying your way into a club but not really understanding the lifestyle or appreciating what it took for that "look" to be as rugged as they pretend to be. Fake motorcycle riders, fake cowboys, around town Jeepers.... the like. It just bugs me:zap:

But to all the fellas I just met :wavey:

cavediverjc 05-22-2010 08:40 AM

I wave to be friendly. Ever thought of that?

The Jeep wave is more than just a wave between two people with a common denominator. It's a friendly thing. Friendly people drive Jeeps. (For the most part.) Now, are you a friendly person? If not, maybe you should sell your Jeep as you haven't earned the right to drive one. If you are a friendly person, wave. Simple. :wavey:

I live in the heartland. Everyone waves here. Every single farmer you pass on the road will wave to you. I guess it comes naturally to some....

pakman55 05-22-2010 04:38 PM

C'Mon man its a wave not a secret handshake. At least return a wave if someone gives you one.

adawg38 05-22-2010 06:05 PM

I wave to all my fellow Jeepers. It really ticks me off though when someone just looks at you like "what? I don't know you"

BackseatBandit 05-22-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TJfun (Post 631242)
That's interesting. I never wave due to the fact that I don't feel like I now belong to a secret brother/sisterhood just because I now own a Jeep. I will wave if I know you though.

My fiances mother was all excited when she bought a Jeep a few years ago and found people would wave when she drove it. Of course, she had it for a couple of years and only had 1400 miles on it by the time she sold it.

I told my fiance I just don't wave because I don't like to pretend I'm a part of a group that I'm not actually a part of because we both have Jeeps. Just because I see a stranger driving a Jeep doesn't mean we are automatically buds because we drive similar vehicles. Now if we meet, chat, and wheel together........ then I'll wave. I guess that's just the rebel side in me.

If nothing else, why not wave because you're a good person, who happens to see someone driving the same vehicle as your own? A choice in the same vehicle always seems to merit a thumbs up or wave of sorts.

TJfun 05-22-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pakman55 (Post 631232)
If you dont wave to a CJ or Wrangler, the Jeep gods will make your day ******.

If you dont wave to an "offroad" Jeep, you are given a strike, 3 strikes and your day is going to be shitty.

If a jeeper cj or wrangler dosnt return a wave, it is a requirement to chase them down and slap them across the face.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavediverjc (Post 631261)
I wave to be friendly. Ever thought of that?

The Jeep wave is more than just a wave between two people with a common denominator. It's a friendly thing. Friendly people drive Jeeps. (For the most part.) Now, are you a friendly person? If not, maybe you should sell your Jeep as you haven't earned the right to drive one. If you are a friendly person, wave. Simple. :wavey:

I live in the heartland. Everyone waves here. Every single farmer you pass on the road will wave to you. I guess it comes naturally to some....

LOL! I find it fascinating when it seems so easy to touch a nerve on sensitive people by merely asking a simple question to provoke thought then giving my reasoning as to where I stand at the moment so we can share points of view and learn something.

Before passing judgement on me though, maybe you can ask a few more questions about me to get a better understanding. I was actually raised around fields and hard working field workers. I was taught how to work on cars by a guy who drove lemon rigs. He never asked anything in return for the knowledge he shared so in turn I help others just the same. I have worked in many community service jobs, am now an EMT/Fire Fighter, volunteer with the local Community Emergency Response Team, Search And Rescue, and teach CPR for the Red Cross plus more. Though this may not make someone a "nice person" I do try to do the best I can for others and ask nothing in return.

With that being said, in CA people are very trendy. I hate that about this state along with a few other things. That is why I am so finicky when it comes to displaying traditional gestures. Yes a wave may just be a wave and simple to do as a friendly gesture but I just wonder how many of those people here would actually stop to help another Jeeper in need. That is why I was asking this in general. I want to see other peoples points of view from other walks of life as well as other states.

pakman55 05-22-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TJfun (Post 631502)
LOL! I find it fascinating when it seems so easy to touch a nerve on sensitive people by merely asking a simple question to provoke thought then giving my reasoning as to where I stand at the moment so we can share points of view and learn something.

Before passing judgement on me though, maybe you can ask a few more questions about me to get a better understanding. I was actually raised around fields and hard working field workers. I was taught how to work on cars by a guy who drove lemon rigs. He never asked anything in return for the knowledge he shared so in turn I help others just the same. I have worked in many community service jobs, am now an EMT/Fire Fighter, volunteer with the local Community Emergency Response Team, Search And Rescue, and teach CPR for the Red Cross plus more. Though this may not make someone a "nice person" I do try to do the best I can for others and ask nothing in return.

With that being said, in CA people are very trendy. I hate that about this state along with a few other things. That is why I am so finicky when it comes to displaying traditional gestures. Yes a wave may just be a wave and simple to do as a friendly gesture but I just wonder how many of those people here would actually stop to help another Jeeper in need. That is why I was asking this in general. I want to see other peoples points of view from other walks of life as well as other states.

Im from a really small town in Massachusetts. Around here I wave to any Wrangler or CJ I see. I always get one in return. Let me say this to you: When you wonder how many people youd wave to would stop to help...What if they stop because they remember you, they remember your rig, they remembered the friendliness you showed by waving. I know I would stop to help a fellow Jeeper. But if I remember "hey thats the butthole who ignored my wave" I would be hesitant to do so.

AbbyK9 05-22-2010 07:31 PM

I think that the Jeep Wave is part of owning a Jeep. Do you know of any other kind of vehicle where owners wave at one another simply for driving the same type of vehicle? It's part of being a Jeeper.

I have to admit, though, that I only wave at Jeeps that actually resemble Jeeps or that are obviously used for off-roading. I don't wave at the 2010 Jeep Utility Vehicles that are somewhere between a Hummer and a Ford Escape in style, nor at the various soccer mom Jeep SUVs that are obviously used to shuttle the kids to soccer practice or shop at the mall.

cavediverjc 05-22-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TJfun (Post 631502)
LOL! I find it fascinating when it seems so easy to touch a nerve on sensitive people by merely asking a simple question to provoke thought then giving my reasoning as to where I stand at the moment so we can share points of view and learn something.

Before passing judgement on me though, maybe you can ask a few more questions about me to get a better understanding. I was actually raised around fields and hard working field workers. I was taught how to work on cars by a guy who drove lemon rigs. He never asked anything in return for the knowledge he shared so in turn I help others just the same. I have worked in many community service jobs, am now an EMT/Fire Fighter, volunteer with the local Community Emergency Response Team, Search And Rescue, and teach CPR for the Red Cross plus more. Though this may not make someone a "nice person" I do try to do the best I can for others and ask nothing in return.

With that being said, in CA people are very trendy. I hate that about this state along with a few other things. That is why I am so finicky when it comes to displaying traditional gestures. Yes a wave may just be a wave and simple to do as a friendly gesture but I just wonder how many of those people here would actually stop to help another Jeeper in need. That is why I was asking this in general. I want to see other peoples points of view from other walks of life as well as other states.

I'm not altogether sure you've stepped on anyone's nerves, or that any of our responses resemble those of what you call "sensitive people". No one is accusing you of being unfriendly. We're just offering our opinions just as you have offered yours.

That being said, it would seem as though you live in California. I looked at your original post and your location wasn't listed. You are given an automatic "BYE" since you live in CA. I lived there when I was stationed in CA and for a bit afterwards as well. I know exactly what you mean about CA drivers. I waved at everyone for the first 6 months I was there. Hardly EVER received a return wave. So I relegated my waves to fellow Jeepers. On base I would get a return wave every time. Off base it was maybe 1 in 10 to fellow Jeepers. I almost got to the point where I didn't wave at ANYONE. Got tired of the suspicious looks and the occasional bird......

TJfun 05-22-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pakman55 (Post 631512)
Im from a really small town in Massachusetts. Around here I wave to any Wrangler or CJ I see. I always get one in return. Let me say this to you: When you wonder how many people youd wave to would stop to help...What if they stop because they remember you, they remember your rig, they remembered the friendliness you showed by waving. I know I would stop to help a fellow Jeeper. But if I remember "hey thats the butthole who ignored my wave" I would be hesitant to do so.

Ha ha ha. I hope you don't find me to be a "butthole".
Hope this makes it better :wavey:

s3nt3nc3d 05-22-2010 10:01 PM

I wave to all CJ's and Wranglers...I wave to JK's too, but only about 1 in 10 return the wave, so I'm thinking about just flipping all JK's off. At least then maybe I'll get a reaction out of them.

YJ's/TJ's will usually go out of their way to wave to me...I will initiate a wave when I see one coming...but I've had some that would see me as they were turning out of the intersection I was passing through and they'll turn and wave anyway.

The Jeep wave has nothing to do with "buying" your way into a club...same goes for bikers (it's not just restricted to Harleys)..it's just something we all have in common and we wave to signify that. Like going back to the JK thing and most JK owners not waving back...it shows they don't own a Jeep because of the "Jeep thing"...the wave is kind of a way to identify who's involved in the "Jeep thing" and who's a soccer mom driving a Jeep just because it looks cool and they want to take their top off every now and then.

TJfun 05-22-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cavediverjc (Post 631591)
I'm not altogether sure you've stepped on anyone's nerves, or that any of our responses resemble those of what you call "sensitive people". No one is accusing you of being unfriendly. We're just offering our opinions just as you have offered yours.

That being said, it would seem as though you live in California. I looked at your original post and your location wasn't listed. You are given an automatic "BYE" since you live in CA. I lived there when I was stationed in CA and for a bit afterwards as well. I know exactly what you mean about CA drivers. I waved at everyone for the first 6 months I was there. Hardly EVER received a return wave. So I relegated my waves to fellow Jeepers. On base I would get a return wave every time. Off base it was maybe 1 in 10 to fellow Jeepers. I almost got to the point where I didn't wave at ANYONE. Got tired of the suspicious looks and the occasional bird......

Yeah, the old "California howdy":flipoff: I know what you mean. As far as stepping on nerves, I hope I haven't. I really am here to make friends and not burn any bridges especially since I just started. I am actually still trying to figure out a lot of all the cool things we can do here like the animated fellas.
Which part of CA were you stationed? I'm actually outside of Edwards AFB and this definitely seems to be Jeep country. I did notice a bunch up in Nor Cal outside Jackson as well.
The Lancaster CERT team has just organized a new 4x4 team and we will have our first offroad outing tomorrow. The organizer has just bought a new JK Jeep and was excited to see my Jeep dirty when I rolled in. I just laughed and told her that it only takes two days of sitting outside here in the desert to get a rig dirty.

radar 05-22-2010 10:17 PM

The wave seems to be dead in my area. I wave and people look at me like i'm nuts for some reason

whiteyj 05-22-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cavediverjc (Post 631261)
I wave to be friendly. Ever thought of that?

The Jeep wave is more than just a wave between two people with a common denominator. It's a friendly thing. Friendly people drive Jeeps. (For the most part.) Now, are you a friendly person? If not, maybe you should sell your Jeep as you haven't earned the right to drive one. If you are a friendly person, wave. Simple. :wavey:

Couldn't agree more.:punk::punk::punk:

TJfun 05-22-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 631625)
I wave to all CJ's and Wranglers...I wave to JK's too, but only about 1 in 10 return the wave, so I'm thinking about just flipping all JK's off. At least then maybe I'll get a reaction out of them.

YJ's/TJ's will usually go out of their way to wave to me...I will initiate a wave when I see one coming...but I've had some that would see me as they were turning out of the intersection I was passing through and they'll turn and wave anyway.

The Jeep wave has nothing to do with "buying" your way into a club...same goes for bikers (it's not just restricted to Harleys)..it's just something we all have in common and we wave to signify that. Like going back to the JK thing and most JK owners not waving back...it shows they don't own a Jeep because of the "Jeep thing"...the wave is kind of a way to identify who's involved in the "Jeep thing" and who's a soccer mom driving a Jeep just because it looks cool and they want to take their top off every now and then.

I mentioned the Harley deal because I was riding motorcycles long before any four wheel vehicle. Back in the day sport bikes would wave only to sport bikes and Harleys would snub everyone but Harley riders. It would make me laugh when they would brake down on the side of the road and I would stop to help only to be shunned for riding a Jap bike. I would just shrug my shoulders and say "suit yourself".

Interesting that you mention JK owners seem not to want to give you any attention. As far as the soccer moms go, they seem to drive Hummers or Land Cruisers out here. I know what you mean about the top of driving though. I think that is why my fiances mom bought hers at the time. She wanted to look "cute" with the top off driving down the PCH. My girl and I took a nice trip in it out to a ghost town called Bodie, CA. It is about 3 miles of dirt road just to get to it. Her mom was concerned about taking it off road. I just laughed because I actually took my R6 Yamaha back there the first time I went. That was tricky.

whiteyj 05-22-2010 10:23 PM

Love the Bodie story. Our first trip to Bodie was in our Tahoe. Quickly came up on a Black Porsche Cayanne doing about 3 mph. Over took him in an instant and took great pleasure in watching my dust plume envelope his pretty "used to be Black" car.:D:D

G54 05-23-2010 06:15 PM

Life is complicated enough. Keep the "wave" simple. Just do it. If the other person doesn't wave back that's their issue. And welcome to WF!

jgano23 05-23-2010 06:22 PM

i always wave. that is all. :wavey:

RhcSavage21 05-23-2010 09:12 PM

i wave at all wranglers except jk's, i have waved many times at them and have never got one back, so i give up on them at least in my area.

GroundHawg 05-23-2010 10:04 PM

I always wave too. CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, JK's, even XJ's. In addition to that, I'll wave to modded pickups, SUV's, even Hummers. I think of it as an off-road thing too.

I drive a 2 door JK, and I'm usually the first to wave or blow the horn or whatever...but just once I'd love to give a big old :flipoff: to someone and see the look on their face :rofl:

cntrybmpkn86 05-23-2010 11:58 PM

Well what about this one fellow Jeepers. Have you ever been going somewhere and for some ungodly reason you find yourself on the side of the road cursing at your jeep calling it a piece of shit. Well you might not know the person but might have seen them around town and did not wave at them, they might just drive by, but if you wave and they have a Jeep most likely they will stop to help just because you have a Jeep. I have been on both ends of that stick, you know the shiity end of the stick alond with the good end. So wave, be friendly and if the time has come pull your ass over and help. You never know it might be you sitting on the side of the road next time and the Jeep you wouldnt wave at drives by and laughs at you. Bet you feel pretty stupid now for not waving.

whiteyj 05-24-2010 12:25 AM

I wave....."F" all those who don't reciprocate.:crash::crash::crash:

Ageless Stranger 05-24-2010 12:45 AM

I plan on waving. I wave at Wranglers I meet now in my Silverado. No one has waved back yet... :(


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