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tazmann910 05-30-2010 12:38 AM

Axles Swap
 
So in about 13 hours today me and a group of friends were able to swap out the D30 and D35 with 3.73 gears for ........wait for it......

HP D30 with 4.88 Gears in the front.
D44 with 4.88 gears, chromoly shafts, and Detroit locker
SYE Kit with Tom Woods Drive Shaft
Upper adjustable control arms
2" Pucks on top of my 3" suspension coils

Tomorrow we dial it in and trail ride it.

35's come in on Wednesday.

AzTJ 05-30-2010 12:42 AM

Pictures... NAO! :D

Congrats. Can't wait till I can get some new axles.

tazmann910 05-30-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 638590)
Pictures... NAO! :D

Congrats. Can't wait till I can get some new axles.

Pictures will come soon, I got a couple of both axles out of the jeep, kind of scary seeing the jeep only up on jackstands.

AzTJ 05-30-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tazmann910 (Post 638596)
kind of scary seeing the jeep only up on jackstands.

I'm afraid my TJ will look like this for a while at some point while I build a D44/D60 combo.

Vaultzz 05-30-2010 12:56 AM

Axle swaps scare me

distortedtj 05-30-2010 01:05 AM

Cool...now you can come put my D44's in for me...I'm tired of axle swaps.
I have parts stacked up in the garage, just no motivation to install them. :(

And PICTURES!!!!! :D

Vaultzz 05-30-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by distortedtj (Post 638616)
I have parts stacked up in the garage, just no motivation to install them. :(

I'll be happy to take them, off your hands and put them to good use ;)

tazmann910 05-31-2010 02:53 PM

OK so you asked for some pictures, well here are a few and a link to the others of what your garage will look like when you:

Swap both axles from a D30/D35 with 3.73 gears with a HP30/D44 with 4.88 gears and a detroit in the rear, put in a SYE kit, tom woods rear driveshaft, 2" pucks on top of my 3" springs, new stainless steel brake lines in the front and rear, new shoes and drums in the rear, and a dropped pitman arm.

Here are some pictures of what a TJ looks like with no axles underneath it.


http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/38...500x500Q85.jpg

Link to the rest of the pictures.

Monster Garage 2 pictures, photos, and videos, from off roading on webshots

Later this week...new tires!!! 35X12.50X15's

TexasSam 05-31-2010 03:38 PM

Pretty cool . I wish you lived near me I need your old stuff with the 3.73's

cavediverjc 05-31-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSam (Post 639734)
Pretty cool . I wish you lived near me I need your old stuff with the 3.73's

I'll have a rear D35 with 3.73's available sometime this summer if you're interested.....

AzTJ 05-31-2010 04:37 PM

Any more pictures of your friend's CJ10?

tazmann910 05-31-2010 05:12 PM

My buddies CJ10 is very cool, we have nicknamed it "Mater". If you want to know more about it let me know, it has a pretty cool story.

Here are a few trail shots.
http://www.gbr4wd.com/images/fbfiles...s/IMG_2422.jpg

http://www.gbr4wd.com/images/fbfiles...s/IMG_2430.jpg

http://www.gbr4wd.com/images/fbfiles...s/IMG_2434.jpg

http://www.gbr4wd.com/images/fbfiles...s/IMG_2435.jpg

distortedtj 05-31-2010 08:27 PM

I now hate your friend. :p

Rig looks good...well minus the spare. :rofl:

tazmann910 05-31-2010 08:29 PM

Yeah, we all like Mater. Since these pictures he has gotten new tires and put on beadlocks as well.

AzTJ 05-31-2010 11:45 PM

I can't see the pics of the CJ10. :(

tazmann910 06-01-2010 08:27 AM

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Let me try this. The link to the pictures is to my club's forum so they may be blocked.

AzTJ 06-01-2010 04:17 PM

That is awesome. That's a YJ tub isn't it?

distortedtj 06-01-2010 09:43 PM

^^^ if it's a real CJ-10 as it looks as it is , nope. All unique to the rig. Had it's own pickup bed like a truck does seperate from the cab. Most all CJ-10 were produce and sold outside of the US. None where sold in the US. A version of the CJ-10 was sold to the US airforce as a CJ10a A bobbed 2wd desiel version used to pull aircraft.

tazmann910 06-01-2010 09:48 PM

Actually, you both are right. That is a YJ tub that was cut and modified and stretched. The Tub had 8 inches added on to it.

This unit is a CJ10a and was a tug unit for a military base here in the Atlanta area. This one was not 2 wheel drive, the transfer case was welded into 4 LO, which my buddy rebuilt the transfer case and added a doubler.

distortedtj 06-01-2010 09:54 PM

Yeah they sell the AF surplus ones all the time. Tell me he kept the desiel in it.:D

tazmann910 06-01-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by distortedtj (Post 641341)
Yeah they sell the AF surplus ones all the time. Tell me he kept the desiel in it.:D

But of course he did, that is what makes it "special":D

EdJonesJeeper 06-29-2010 09:14 PM

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Did you notice with the upper control arms that driver side wants to be longer than passenger with the d44? Im' doin the swap now and track bar seems to want to pull the driver side further away. About a half an inch. Also bent the shocks in at the spring hanger.
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Sorry:hijacked:

tazmann910 06-29-2010 09:50 PM

did not have the trac bar issue, but did have the shock issue and installed the relocation brackets.

EdJonesJeeper 06-29-2010 10:04 PM

so upper control arms should be the same length correct?

And what relocation brackets are you referring too? Spring hanger/frame relocation?

EdJonesJeeper 06-29-2010 10:10 PM

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Should I have it on the ground?Attachment 21094

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tazmann910 06-30-2010 10:04 PM

i would set the control arms with the jeep on the ground.

Sorry, the brackets i was referring to were the shock relocation brackets that move the axle end out.

EdJonesJeeper 07-02-2010 12:44 PM

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DONE!!!!!! And no rear sway bar for now. Gonna see how that treats me on road.
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Jerry Bransford 07-02-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EdJonesJeeper (Post 675448)
DONE!!!!!! And no rear sway bar for now. Gonna see how that treats me on road.
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I would not and do not run without a rear antiswaybar. While it is common and fine for leaf spring Jeeps like CJs and YJs to run without their antiswaybars, that's not the case for a TJ that uses far less stable coil springs.

Without realizing it, I broke a rear antiswaybar link years ago while offroading. Breaking one link disables the entire antiswaybar and completely removes its effect. Driving back home through my local mountains, I must have stopped 3-4 times to look at my suspension to see why it felt so loosey-goosey/scarey feeling on the mountain turns. I didn't figure out what happened until I got home and could crawl underneat to see what was wrong.

EdJonesJeeper 07-12-2010 07:15 PM

the rs9000 are sooo stiff, I can't even notice I'm not running a rear sway bar. I can see how softer shocks would make a hugh differance.


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