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mikeymoto 05-31-2010 10:09 PM

RE 2" budget lift and 1" body lift
 
I picked up a 2000 TJ from my sister; it's been in the family since it was bought new, and I got a pretty good deal on it. It's got your usual wear and tear, give or take.

First thing on the menu is a little lift to make it respectable. I bought the Rubicon Express (RE) Budget Boost (BB) which claims 2", and I also picked up the Mountain Off Road Enterprises (M.O.R.E) 1" body lift kit.

The budget boost went on great, and this Jeep really needed new shocks anyways! I think I am a slow worker; I worked by myself and the BB took me about 8 hours.

While installing the BB I discovered that the driver's side front sway bar link was broken off the sway bar. Well, all the more reason to order up a set of quick disconnects. This Jeep had been feeling really soft in the suspension which I attributed to bad shocks but I'm sure the broken sway bar connection adds to that.

Adding the pucks for the M.O.R.E body lift was super easy. It got a lot harder doing the transfer case drop bracket (I had a hard time following the documentation), and became impossible when I tried installing the steering intermediate shaft riser bracket. After I mounted the bracket there was no way the steering shaft was going to go back together, so I've put a question into M.O.R.E and I sure hope they're able to help me out on this.

I did a quick alignment check and it's "good enough" until I get new wheels and tires in 10 days or so. The steering feels ok using the OEM bracket so I hope I'm not doing permanent damage or exposing myself to extra risk driving it like it is.

Here are some before and after shots:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/...7a7c5eff_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/...82cea609_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/...81ae391c_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/...ff759cfe_b.jpg

For wheels and tires I'm planning to go for some Pro Comp black steelies 15x8 with 4.5" backspacing (BS). The tires will be BFG KM2s in 33x10.50.

I expect it'll be snug fit with the 33s but I expect they'll fit alright. Not sure about the backspacing but I hope it turns out ok with no rubbing!!! I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on this if you have any.

I measured and the ground-to-bumper lift front and rear is 1.5" - 2".

drivebytruckerz 05-31-2010 10:21 PM

Good looking TJ. I heard you wanted to give me that hard top and pay for the shipping to Georgia.. just a rumor..

bobjenkins 05-31-2010 10:59 PM

what a difference!

s3nt3nc3d 06-01-2010 02:49 AM

You're gonna be amazed at how it looks with just the lift, wheels, and tires... go pick yourself up a can of black Krylon Fusion and paint those old faded fender flares and that'll really spruce it up too.

33's will be a lil tight under there and you may need to adjust your bump stops a little, but if you don't off-road much, you'll probably be okay. You've got bout 3" of lift and most say 3.5-4" of lift is good for 33's...but I've also seen people stuff em under there with no lift, a bodylift only, and or a BB only. You shouldn't have any rubbing issues with the steelies. If you do, just put a washer under each of the steering stops and you'll be golden.

Now pull them milk jugs off your bumpers (and replace with the flat caps if you don't like em being open) and paint the headlight bezels either yellow or black and it'll look REEEEAAAL good! LOL

InfernoGirl 06-01-2010 07:47 AM

You have a nice looking TJ there, welcome to the forum! :wavey:
You'll be fine with 4.5" bs and those tires. Like mentioned, ifyou rub at full lock, just add a washer or two, but I doubt you will have any issues. If you rub your flares, you can always trim them. Super easy with a razor knife. Then you'll want to paint them just to dress 'em up a bit.

mikeymoto 06-01-2010 08:47 AM

Thanks for the feedback. Yah those fender flares are pretty ugly. It's weird how they age -- I assume they're sun bleached, but it doesn't go very deep because if you scratch with your finger it'll show black. I tried using a Scotch Brite pad in a corner to see if I could bring back the black but it didn't work so well. I guess I'll go with the paint when it's time.

drivebytruckerz 06-01-2010 09:01 AM

I've got stock fender flares and I put some tire dressing on them and they turn back to factory look in about a half a second. You don't need new ones.. just some black magic after a wash. Eventually they'll stay shiny.

bobjenkins 06-01-2010 09:38 AM

just curious how difficult was it to install the lift?

when i get a jeep thats the first thing I wanna do, and im willing to put in the effort and time to do it myself but Im unsure. what tools will I need? and will a jack be enough to get under to install it?

Im thinking a 4 inch lift , maybe 3 . and a 2 inch body lift

otherwise im afraid ill have to pay a mechanic, and Ive no idea how much that will cost

thanks!

InfernoGirl 06-01-2010 09:40 AM

Heat gun will bring back the color for a long time. My problem is that mud stains them and sucks the color out so bad, that I just went ahead and painted them... No tire shine or back to black rubbing off on my kids and clothes that way.... :)

mikeymoto 06-01-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 640448)
just curious how difficult was it to install the lift?

when i get a jeep thats the first thing I wanna do, and im willing to put in the effort and time to do it myself but Im unsure. what tools will I need? and will a jack be enough to get under to install it?

Im thinking a 4 inch lift , maybe 3 . and a 2 inch body lift

otherwise im afraid ill have to pay a mechanic, and Ive no idea how much that will cost

The Budget Boost (BB) was not hard to install, but it took me what I think was a long time. I used a floor jack to put 2 jack stands under the frame next to the control arm brackets and then used the floor jack for various axle manipulation. I bought a coil spring compressor for $20 which made life easier. I used some waterproof lithium grease when I pressed fittings into the bushings on the shocks. I used a 10-ton shop press for that press work. Besides that I can't think of any special tools required. The shop press helped but is not required. Of course I have all the drivers, sockets, and extensions required. This was a 2" BB.

I'm confident suggesting you can not do a lift with just a floor jack and no jack stands. I would never ever put myself under a car held up with just a hydraulic or even mechanical jack. Beyond that you need to move the axle around when doing the springs, and the axle has to be dropped down from the frame/body.

If you're looking for more lift than a BB offers, whatever kit you come up with will probably be more involved than the BB which is just spring spacers and new shocks. I can't tell you what additional work will be required for your lift since I haven't done it. With 4" you will probably want to address rear driveline angle at the least, and may face steering issues as well.

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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl (Post 640450)
Heat gun will bring back the color for a long time. My problem is that mud stains them and sucks the color out so bad, that I just went ahead and painted them... No tire shine or back to black rubbing off on my kids and clothes that way.... :)

Ah thanks I'll try that tonight or as soon as I have a chance! I wouldn't have thought to try adding heat.

eggy9011 06-01-2010 04:14 PM

I am thinking about getting 2" spring spacers and a 1" body lift from rocky road.com (Inexpensive Rocky Road budget lifts for your Jeep TJ Wrangler). I was wondering if anyone has or has heard of this lift set up. The only thing I am worried about is droping th transfer case. I feel confidnt installing the spring spacers and body lift but dont really want to mess around with the transfer case and was wondering if my jeep will be ok without droppin it and what kind of problems I might run into. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your time, this site has been very informative so far to my newly purchased jeep!

Bruck 06-01-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggy9011 (Post 640841)
I am thinking about getting 2" spring spacers and a 1" body lift from rocky road.com (Inexpensive Rocky Road budget lifts for your Jeep TJ Wrangler). I was wondering if anyone has or has heard of this lift set up. The only thing I am worried about is droping th transfer case. I feel confidnt installing the spring spacers and body lift but dont really want to mess around with the transfer case and was wondering if my jeep will be ok without droppin it and what kind of problems I might run into. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your time, this site has been very informative so far to my newly purchased jeep!

I have an 03 Rubicon and I recently installed a 2" BB. I did not have to drop the TC. No vibes at all (other than the Jeep Wrangler vibes that is). I may be wrong, but I can't necessarily see how a body lift would contribute to the need to drop the case. Don't take my word for it, but you may be fine....Perhaps someone with a body lift can confirm...

cabnboy 06-05-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggy9011 (Post 640841)
I am thinking about getting 2" spring spacers and a 1" body lift from rocky road.com (Inexpensive Rocky Road budget lifts for your Jeep TJ Wrangler). I was wondering if anyone has or has heard of this lift set up. The only thing I am worried about is droping th transfer case. I feel confidnt installing the spring spacers and body lift but dont really want to mess around with the transfer case and was wondering if my jeep will be ok without droppin it and what kind of problems I might run into. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your time, this site has been very informative so far to my newly purchased jeep!

Eggy, I just bought the same lift from them. I haven't put it on yet but their site says it "gives you a full 3", but doesn't cause enough change in your suspension to necessitate drivetrain, steering, or brake line modification."

That's one of the reasons I bought it so I hope it's true! Have you installed yours yet? I'd love to hear how it goes. Thanks.


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