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nickelhack 08-03-2010 10:52 AM

My 2001 Wrangler really wants a direct iPhone/iPod connection
 
Hi everyone,

I own a 2001 Wrangler (Sahara ed. with premium sound). I love listening to my iPhone, but Iíve been using a sub-par FM transmitter up until now. What is the

a) best
b) cheapest
c) theft-deterring

way for me to get a nice new radio (oem or aftermarket) that will directly connect to my iDevice? Iíve seen the Mopar kits, but I am under the impression that they only work with later model Wranglers.

Thanks for the advice!

PTaylor 08-03-2010 11:06 AM

there are several after market radios that will allow you to hook up an Ipod via a dedicated cable. The iphone....I think people use the dock to attach to their radios aux input.

Also:
The Complete Guide to iPhone Car Integration | iLounge Article

jamesdeanblvd 08-03-2010 11:23 AM

My Alpine came with a cable that attaches directly to the docking port on my ipod, and you just do everything through the Alpine head unit. On some of the Ipods, it will even charge them. Not the case on the new Nano's with the video camera. They will not charge using the firewire cable that the other nano's used and charged.

drivebytruckerz 08-03-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdeanblvd (Post 710829)
my alpine came with a cable that attaches directly to the docking port on my ipod, and you just do everything through the alpine head unit. On some of the ipods, it will even charge them. Not the case on the new nano's with the video camera. They will not charge using the firewire cable that the other nano's used and charged.

x2

darin.1701 08-03-2010 12:52 PM

personally, i am looking into several somewhat cheap radio's that allow connection of a USB drive filled with music. That way, if something is stolen, it is only a cheap usb drive, or a cheap stereo, and when i want to take my music with me, it is stored on a nice small device

mrcarcrazy 08-03-2010 01:04 PM

I went with a Pioneer DEH2100

cheap, and has ipod connection.

NHEric 08-03-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdeanblvd (Post 710829)
My Alpine came with a cable that attaches directly to the docking port on my ipod, and you just do everything through the Alpine head unit. On some of the Ipods, it will even charge them. Not the case on the new Nano's with the video camera. They will not charge using the firewire cable that the other nano's used and charged.

Have an Alpine that has the same cable. Had the same charging issue with my fancy new iPhone 3GS until I bought one of THESE. I still get all the function and charging.

Atthehop 08-03-2010 01:21 PM

You must have a hardtop, radio is pretty much a waste on a softtop on the highway.

Zamboni 08-03-2010 03:53 PM

I'm sure more than one person will chime in with the opinion that Sony is nothing more than an overpriced paper weight on this one, but here's my two cents. Sony DSX-S100, retail is about $130 - $150. No CD player, but has a 'tune tray'. Basically, there is both an external connection on the faceplate as well as a tray behind the faceplat that you can hook and iDevice up to or any USB decive. It sells with an iPod adaptor. Just Google it and you'll see. I have it and love it. It wasn't so expensive that I would be heartbroken if it got stolen, but it is an improvement over the oem headunit in my opinion.

nickelhack 08-04-2010 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamboni
I'm sure more than one person will chime in with the opinion that Sony is nothing more than an overpriced paper weight on this one, but here's my two cents. Sony DSX-S100, retail is about $130 - $150. No CD player, but has a 'tune tray'. Basically, there is both an external connection on the faceplate as well as a tray behind the faceplat that you can hook and iDevice up to or any USB decive. It sells with an iPod adaptor. Just Google it and you'll see. I have it and love it. It wasn't so expensive that I would be heartbroken if it got stolen, but it is an improvement over the oem headunit in my opinion.

Hmm this sounds interesting. I'm not sure how much I'd miss a CD player. I can't remember the last time I used it. I'll check out that and the alpine.

How easy is installation?

Hammerwalk 12-01-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamboni (Post 711193)
I'm sure more than one person will chime in with the opinion that Sony is nothing more than an overpriced paper weight on this one, but here's my two cents. Sony DSX-S100, retail is about $130 - $150. No CD player, but has a 'tune tray'. Basically, there is both an external connection on the faceplate as well as a tray behind the faceplat that you can hook and iDevice up to or any USB decive. It sells with an iPod adaptor. Just Google it and you'll see. I have it and love it. It wasn't so expensive that I would be heartbroken if it got stolen, but it is an improvement over the oem headunit in my opinion.

Just a few months behind, but was wondering if you had any issues with the center console sub working with this? One commenter said he did, very interested in this setup. Just curious to see if anyone else has this.

MikalCarbine 12-01-2010 01:02 PM

Why bother spending money on ANY radio if the risk of having a break in increases due to the non stock look? There are units that interface into the rear of the stock radio into the external cd changer port that interfaces to a 1/8" audio connector. I'm sure this can easily be concealed under the dash too. I've looked into this in the past but never bit since the units are around 50 bucks

Hammerwalk 12-01-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikalCarbine (Post 903093)
Why bother spending money on ANY radio if the risk of having a break in increases due to the non stock look? There are units that interface into the rear of the stock radio into the external cd changer port that interfaces to a 1/8" audio connector. I'm sure this can easily be concealed under the dash too. I've looked into this in the past but never bit since the units are around 50 bucks

Detachable faceplate helps with that, imo, i wouldn't mind the factory stereo, but I cant get it to play CD-R CDs at all. Have tried over 8 different brands, at all different speeds, with several different burners. Plus i don't like the clutter of wires hanging around for aux devices, and CDs are a pain to deal with, especially with the size of the console storage and glove box.

As far as the items that can interface with the rear side of the factory stereo, just isn't ideal to me. Right now the FM transmitter works, but its just me being picky i guess. Plus I have Sirius, and again, with all the wires involved with that, i would just prefer for everything to be all nice and neat. As far as theft, thats what insurance is for.

MikalCarbine 12-01-2010 03:03 PM

I'm in your boat too, I have a monsterplay FM transmitter (considered one of the best) but I am so sick of dealing with the AC socket and the bulky channel selector. Why won't a inside dash mounted unit appeal to you? I'm just curious, either way you'll need a single wire to touch your ipod. Here are some examples:

Auxiliary Inputs for Jeep Stereos | TSS-Radio

Wicked expensive, I really want to know what is going on inside those units, it's probably a simple op-amp buffer circuit or something that costs $5 to home brew and they jack up the price. I'd love to make a DIY unit..

Hammerwalk 12-01-2010 03:20 PM

With one of those units, mounted up under the dash or where ever, you still have to grab the iPod and fiddle with it. More of a distraction i think. Where as with this Sony unit, its all in a remote, your iPod isnt going to go sliding around or fall to the floor, that is unless you use velcrow, but then you have that on the iPod or phone where ever you go. Its the ease of grabbing a USB stick, or your iPod, loading it up with songs, tossing it into the slot, or the hidden bay, letting the stereo do a search for you, and have everything at the touch of a remote.

It could be 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, but in all reality, I do it cause i can. I have had many vehicles where i have done the home brew technique, rig all the stuff up so that it would work, ever since back in the day with the cassette adapters (which honestly, those worked a hell of a lot better than the FM transmitters). Im just done with rigging shit to make things work. Im at the point where if i can get it in an all-in-one package, i will. But only if it will work with everything i have, which is why i brought up the question of working with the center sub.

The items in the link you sent me would work, but why bother any more is how i see it, especially for those prices. Not much of an electrical connoisseur to be able to rig one of those up on my own, which now runs into my issue with rigging things.


I'll get there, some how, some way.

billyb 12-01-2010 03:35 PM

I have a Kenwood MP-342? with the USB input on the front. Got a deal last December from Amazon with 2 6.5" speakers (also Kenwood, don't remember the model, they are 3 ways) for $150. The 6.5" speakers went directly into the soundbar for a HUGE improvement and then once my mounting bracket for the head unit came in (weeks later, gotta pay more attention to that "ships in 2-4 weeks" thing on Amazon) and I got it installed I'm great. I mostly run my iPod whenever I'm driving, I keep it locked in the console. If I'm worried about theft, I just remove the faceplate and lock it in the console, too. Over 4000 songs at a touch at all times.

Hammerwalk 12-01-2010 03:50 PM

yeah, i've seen that one before, and was tempted to get it, but then i stumbled upon this Sony with no CD player and found that more interesting. I hardly ever use CDs any more, plus the ability for the tracks to skip while on the trail kind of kills it for me when you are in that "lets tear it up" mode and the tunes go out :-(

kbaum03 12-01-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdeanblvd (Post 710829)
My Alpine came with a cable that attaches directly to the docking port on my ipod, and you just do everything through the Alpine head unit. On some of the Ipods, it will even charge them. Not the case on the new Nano's with the video camera. They will not charge using the firewire cable that the other nano's used and charged.

X 3 or 4 mine works great!! Ipod controlled through the head unit.

Joshpeb2 12-01-2010 04:17 PM

go to quadratec's website and search for item # 96080.94 it will integrate to any headunit including stock

MikalCarbine 12-01-2010 04:48 PM

You make some good points about the Sony unit, especially if you are an iPod user. I have an android phone and I like to integrate all my devices into one as often as I can, for example I use this for my MP3 player also. That's why I was so hellbent on a 1/8" audio connector since it primarily uses that. I wonder if there are any cheap bluetooth radios out there that I could hook it up to instead? I also like the USB idea, I could just use a separate drive. Theft really worries me though, even without the faceplate I've seen steroes stolen :( Makes no sense

Edit:Joshpeb, that kit is a fixed FM modulator, basically the same thing we are using now. Most of these have horrible audio quality

I found this http://www.amazon.com/Dual-XHD6425-B.../dp/B000VPC44O

It's under $100 but I have no idea of the brand or quality haha

Joshpeb2 12-01-2010 05:32 PM

I know what it is and have seen it in person and it worked great. Didnt sound any different than mine which has an mp3 input jack on the front for direct connect.

Gumpy2030 12-01-2010 05:49 PM

I use an Alpine IDA-x100 which I really like. Alpine actually spent a few million dollars to have Apple design the interface with the iPod. So you can control the iPod from the deck but it works just like you are using your iPod. I know they have newer models now but I really have been impressed with Alpine's and I like not having to mess with the actual iPod.
I have had an issue running my sub-woofer since hooking this up and have tried to fix it but still haven't had any luck. Not sure what the answer is but I have tried all of the standard ideas, example the remote wire.

Hammerwalk 12-01-2010 06:19 PM

That Alpine looks really slick as well. I would have to do some comparing against the two. For the sub issues that you have had, was all the troubleshooting and fixing on your own, or did you take it some where? I am by no means not afraid to get my hands dirty, but i also know when to call in the pros on some items, maybe in this case, CarToys.

And as for Mikal, I'm an avid Droid user as well, but when on the road, it just doesn't do well as my primary audio source. Plus, nothing out there really beats the iPod, whether you like it or not, every thing is for the damned iPod/phone/pad now days. Just cant get away from the grip of Jobs. But thats also why i like the aux input on the front as well, cause if, say i want to integrate the audio of the voice calls, or fire up last.fm or Pandora, its there and available.

Either way, I really had no idea that these stereos were out there cause my last ride was a real dive and it just had everything rigged to work. Why put a stereo in thats worth more than the vehicle you drive. But now that I got my Jeep, im ready to upgrade.

I appreciate all the feed back and ideas on this. Y'all have been great.

dutch169 12-02-2010 03:13 AM

Not sure if this is what your looking for but here's what I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dutch169 (Post 877788)
Today I cleaned up some wiring. I mounted my iphone (which is now my ipod) to my dash awhile ago but had wires all over the place. It was always plugged into the cigarette lighter in plain view. The battery is just about crapped out (gets about 15 to 20 minutes of play before it dies) so I need a constant power source. To make it work I had to plug the Aux wire into the power plug and then into the radio. A separete line goes form the plug to the iphone.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...020_142752.jpg

I bought a fuse adapter and installed it on the fuse panel. I hooked it up to the rear defogger. I don't have a hardtop so i have no use for the circuit. The curcuit gets cut off when the key is out so it will not drain my battery if left on.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...115_162328.jpg

I hooked the ground up to a gounded bolt under the dash. Its up and to the left of the fuse panel.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...115_162335.jpg

I then connected everything and tucked it up under the dash behind the glove box.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...115_164753.jpg

I ran all the wires behind the dash so they are out of site. The power is behind the glove box. The aux line runs from the plug itself, behind the dash and into the ash tray. I open it up and can plug it into my radio. The line to the iphone is to the left of the fog light/ rear defog / rear wiper switches and tucks in between the radio bezel and dash.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/...115_165023.jpg


cork1958 12-02-2010 04:54 AM

+1 for Sony's!!

Have used Sony stuff all my life and have NEVER had a problem. Just had a Sony Xplod installed in my car with aux and usb connections built in.

Gumpy2030 12-02-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammerwalk (Post 903527)
That Alpine looks really slick as well. I would have to do some comparing against the two. For the sub issues that you have had, was all the troubleshooting and fixing on your own, or did you take it some where? I am by no means not afraid to get my hands dirty, but i also know when to call in the pros on some items, maybe in this case, CarToys.

I didn't take it to a shop but did talk to a local one. They told me I needed some type of fancy convertor for about $100 to make it work. I have installed countless systems and always been able to do it on my own. So after some research online I was never able to find anyone talking about the convertor the local shop mentioned. So for now it still doesn't work but I haven't really thought about it until this post. :doh:

Hammerwalk 12-02-2010 03:33 PM

Have you tried this post? Some one had the exact same issue that I am concerned about, and possibly yourself, on this thread ,http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/ins...-up-31293.html , Post#27 and on talks about the center sub issue.

If everything isn't going to work after I upgrade a stereo,i.e center sub, then I might as well be back at square one of having to deal with factory stereo. I'm anal like that.

rubicon hobby 12-02-2010 06:31 PM

I kept the stock radio and installed the I-simple, it is an FM modulator that the radio antenna goes through. Best Buy sells it but I found it cheaper on Ebay charges my phone plays all my music and was super fast to install in my 03.

thetoadLJ 12-02-2010 08:16 PM

i have a pioneer DEH2xxx too not sure which one exactly. installed cost me $150. ipod hooks up through usb. charges while it plays ur jams

Gumpy2030 12-02-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammerwalk (Post 904711)
Have you tried this post? Some one had the exact same issue that I am concerned about, and possibly yourself, on this thread ,http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/ins...-up-31293.html , Post#27 and on talks about the center sub issue.

If everything isn't going to work after I upgrade a stereo,i.e center sub, then I might as well be back at square one of having to deal with factory stereo. I'm anal like that.

Hammerwalk, thanks for the link to that thread. It did have some useful information and I can't remember if I tried that or not. Hopefully I will be able to open it up this weekend and get it working. Thanks again.


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