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JPN 02-10-2007 10:32 AM

Engine swap - Ford 4 cylinder diesel?
 
From a quick google search, I found a company that offers a kit to install a Ford 2.0 or 2.3 four cylinder in the older Jeeps.

In the early to mid 1980's, Ford had a 2.2 diesel that was offered as an option in the Ranger pickup. The engine was built by Mazda and was based on an industrial engine used in forklifts. Mazda supplied the engine with an adapter plate that matches the bellhousing used with the 4 speed manual transmission in the Ranger pickups. The oilpan has the sump at the rear, and I think (but not sure) the mounts are the same as used on the Ranger 2.3 four cylinder 2wd pickups.

Looks like the swap would be doable, but I'm still trying to figure out which drivetrain components would be the best to use. Is it possible to swap the early 70's CJ5 tranmission and transfer case with the 5speed transmission and transfer case (manual, not the electric 'shift on the fly') used in the 1980's Ranger pickups? I was thinking that if the mounts weren't too different, it would be easier to deal with modifying the driveshafts, than to deal with a custom clutch and bellhousing adapter.

JPN 02-10-2007 06:48 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the 1980's 2.3 Ranger transmissions were usually the Toyo-Koygo 5, and the transfer cases were usually the Borg Warner 1350.

Would I be likely to have headaches trying to swap that into an early 70's CJ5?

Triple88a 02-17-2007 05:27 PM

the new ranger engines are preatty nice. They rev to 7k rpm and get over 23mpg (gasoline)

JPN 03-03-2007 10:01 AM

Came across some information on a diesel that was a factory option in the 1961 to 1965 CJ5.

Manufacturer: Perkins
Type: inline 4 cylinder OHV diesel
Displacement: 192.2 cu. in. (3.15L)
Bore x Stroke: 3.50" x 5.00"
Compression ratio: 16.5 to 1
Horsepower (gross): 62@3000rpm
Torque (gross): 143@1350rpm
Main bearings: 3

And the data on the diesel option for the 1983 and 1984 Ford Ranger:

Manufacturer: Mazda (under license from Perkins)
Type: inline 4 cylinder OHV diesel
Displacement: 134.8 cu.in. (2.2L)
Bore x Stroke: 3.50" x 3.50"
Compression ratio: 22 to 1
Horsepower (net): 59@4000rpm
Torque: 90@2500rpm
Main bearings: 5


From 1985 to 1987, Ford offered a more powerful Mitsubishi 2.3L as their diesel option, but it apparently had cooling problems and used a belt driven overhead cam (if the timing belt gave out, the pistons ate the head).

ddavie 03-03-2007 10:40 AM

By no means am I turning you away from here, but there is a wealth of info for you at www.earlycj5.com . These guys helped me build my '56 and they can answer any question you have on engine swaps, etc.

blueJeeps 03-03-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddavie (Post 59683)
By no means am I turning you away from here, but there is a wealth of info for you at www.earlycj5.com . These guys helped me build my '56 and they can answer any question you have on engine swaps, etc.

X2, DD you recall who it is thats doing a oil burner swap there?

ddavie 03-03-2007 10:54 AM

M38a1diesel is. Not sure which engine he's using, though...

blueJeeps 03-03-2007 11:30 AM

Thats it, Nissan I think.

Triple88a 03-03-2007 08:16 PM

From expereince toyota seems to be the best for durability in my book... here is a big list of diesel toyota engines... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P...elEngines.html

JPN 03-04-2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddavie (Post 59683)
By no means am I turning you away from here, but there is a wealth of info for you at www.earlycj5.com .

Thanks! Spent a couple hours reading, and I think I've only scratched the surface of what's there.

I've got one of the Ford 2.2 diesels buried in the back of the garage. It was purchased for a Ranger project that I gave up on before I got too far into it - cab turned out to be too far gone to save, side of bed was caved in, lots of electrical problems.

A coworker suggested I try to find a CJ2a project to put the diesel into. After a little research on what engines were offered in which models, I'm more interested in finding a pre-1974 (less trouble with local emissions requirements) CJ5 project. I'm not in any hurry with this project, since I've already got a couple of other projects (both originally diesels) waiting for the orthopaedist to give me a release on two spinal injuries. I'm still at the research stage, trying to figure out what I might be getting myself into (rather than the usual process of just jumping into it and waiting until it's half torn down to ask what I've gotten myself into).

Ggg 06-23-2011 03:47 PM

I have a Cummins 4bt in my TJ. www.4btswaps.com has a lot of good info. CJ2a has a pretty weak frame and drivetrain. Post 77 CJ's have stronger frames.

Barrie 06-23-2011 03:52 PM

WOW!! A 4 year old thread dug up out of the archives. :thumb:

GoldenSahara00 06-23-2011 03:57 PM

I like how you can tell none of these guys stuck around WF except for tripple88a.

Barrie 06-23-2011 04:00 PM

Trip hasn't been around for at least a year or more.

GoldenSahara00 06-23-2011 04:09 PM

Thats too bad :(

Ggg 06-23-2011 11:35 PM

crap, sorry
I honestly do not know how I dug this one up. Lately I have been looking in the recent thread list but judging by the post before me it shouldn't have been there.

Barrie 06-23-2011 11:58 PM

No problem bud, just having a little fun with ya. :thumb:

Ggg 06-24-2011 10:26 PM

:thumb:I know, lol @ myself


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