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gcrissman 09-06-2010 12:48 PM

Rubicon suspension
 
A question for you all in regards to the Rubicon suspension, whats the difference between it and the Sahara. We bought a '10 Sahara Unlimited in June, it's the one the wife wanted and we didn't really have a reason that would make me over rule her and get a Rubicon. She has now noticed that the Rubicon sits higher than hers.

The question I have after reading through the forums is if I swap out the Sahara springs with those from a Rubicon will that alone account for the difference in height? I see some back and forth on if the shocks need to be swapped as well, some say they do and some say they are the same.

TIA

daggo66 09-06-2010 12:54 PM

Climb underneath and look at the tags on the front and rear springs. What are the last 2 numbers?

gcrissman 09-06-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 760293)
Climb underneath and look at the tags on the front and rear springs. What are the last 2 numbers?

Will do as soon as my wife gets back from work...

daggo66 09-06-2010 01:10 PM

Once I have that information, I'll tell you all I know about stock suspension and how to do an inexpensive upgrade and whether it would be worthwhile to you.

Kate 09-06-2010 01:35 PM

Of course, the height and suspension of the Sahara vs the Rubi in relation to the other important differences between the two models soon becomes the least expensive thing you have to modify.

kik 09-06-2010 01:58 PM

The shocks and ground clearance are the same for the 10 Sahara and Rubicon. A stock Rubi might look like it sits higher possibly because of the tires. The Rubi that the Sahara was compared to might have been lifted. The difference is in the spring rates.

gcrissman 09-06-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kik (Post 760355)
The shocks and ground clearance are the same for the 10 Sahara and Rubicon. A stock Rubi might look like it sits higher possibly because of the tires. The Rubi that the Sahara was compared to might have been lifted. The difference is in the spring rates.

Interesting, I looked at the specs on the '11 (yes I know its a different year but I was looking at the spec sheet in one of the post here) and there was 2" of ground clearance and 2" of height difference. My brother has a '10 Rubicon stock and that is what we are comparing our '10 Sahara to. He is going to be putting on a lift this year and I was going to snag his springs and shocks if they work.

gcrissman 09-06-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kate (Post 760324)
Of course, the height and suspension of the Sahara vs the Rubi in relation to the other important differences between the two models soon becomes the least expensive thing you have to modify.

I agree

daggo66 09-06-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gcrissman (Post 760367)
Interesting, I looked at the specs on the '11 (yes I know its a different year but I was looking at the spec sheet in one of the post here) and there was 2" of ground clearance and 2" of height difference. My brother has a '10 Rubicon stock and that is what we are comparing our '10 Sahara to. He is going to be putting on a lift this year and I was going to snag his springs and shocks if they work.

The shocks will definitely be worth the swap if you want a stiffer ride. Get the numbers from yours and his and I can tell you in the swing swap will be worth it.

kik 09-06-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gcrissman (Post 760367)
Interesting, I looked at the specs on the '11 (yes I know its a different year but I was looking at the spec sheet in one of the post here) and there was 2" of ground clearance and 2" of height difference. My brother has a '10 Rubicon stock and that is what we are comparing our '10 Sahara to. He is going to be putting on a lift this year and I was going to snag his springs and shocks if they work.

Actually, the ground clearance for a 10 Sahara is 10.3" and the Rubi is 10.2". Both hard tops are 70.8" & the soft top is 71.9". I don't know what the specs. are on the 11.

gcrissman 09-06-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kik (Post 760396)
Actually, the ground clearance for a 10 Sahara is 10.3" and the Rubi is 10.2". Both hard tops are 70.8" & the soft top is 71.9". I don't know what the specs. are on the 11.

Saw that as well, maybe it was the tires but I think the 2 tires are really close in size. Could be my imagination as well.

gcrissman 09-06-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 760293)
Climb underneath and look at the tags on the front and rear springs. What are the last 2 numbers?

Front Springs - 52226316AC

Rear Springs - 68004458AA

I spoke to my brother and it looks like he is not doing his lift kit anytime soon, he is trying to buy a house so he doesn't want to drop a bunch of $$ on his Jeep until he finds a place and gets moved in.

I am looking to add an aftermarket bumper this winter and just want to make sure the suspension is up to the task (I am sure it is). We don't want to lift the Jeep and will just be running the MOAB wheels off a Rubicon or the Mountian Edition wheels if I can find some.

daggo66 09-06-2010 07:12 PM

Your rear springs are about as good as they get. Your fronts are the high side of the middle. The last 2 digits are the key. The fronts range from 13 to 19 and the rears from 52 to 60. I had 14 in the front and 54 in the rear. I purchased 19's and 60's from a Mopar dealer and the result was a 2" lift.

gcrissman 09-06-2010 07:32 PM

Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 760784)
Your rear springs are about as good as they get. Your fronts are the high side of the middle. The last 2 digits are the key. The fronts range from 13 to 19 and the rears from 52 to 60. I had 14 in the front and 54 in the rear. I purchased 19's and 60's from a Mopar dealer and the result was a 2" lift.

I won't gain much from changing out the springs in the rear but it may be worth changing out the front ones if I add a heavier bumper.

Any suggestion on shocks?

daggo66 09-06-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gcrissman (Post 760825)
I won't gain much from changing out the springs in the rear but it may be worth changing out the front ones if I add a heavier bumper.

Any suggestion on shocks?

The Bilstein HD are very good. Thye stiffened up my ride significantly. If you are planning a heavier bumper and/or a winch, stiffer springs will negate the sag.


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