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Jerrodma 09-15-2010 07:26 PM

Dual Tops installed at Factory
I read in the Jeep owners Manuel 2008 edition that "If your vehicle is equipped with the Dual Top, you must remove one of the tops from the vehicle. The soft top was installed at the factory for shipping purposes. Removal is mandatory to prevent any possible wear and tear on the soft top." Also, removal of the pivot beakers too.
So.... Anyone not remove it and encounter "wear & tear"?

zaitcev 09-15-2010 07:30 PM

I asked dealer to remove it when it became clear that soft top uses otherwise necessary baggage space on 2D. They dropped $1200 off the price for it.

Steel02001 09-15-2010 07:31 PM

When I was still looking around for my Jeep, most of the Dual Top's only had one installed and had the other one in packaging.

bobjenkins 09-15-2010 07:31 PM

the doft top is folded up soo amazingly impeccably well that once you raise and lower it you will never get it folded tightly enough to keep it on with the soft top. welll that was my case on a tj

daggo66 09-15-2010 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by zaitcev (Post 774106)
I asked dealer to remove it when it became clear that soft top uses otherwise necessary baggage space on 2D. They dropped $1200 off the price for it.

I did the opposite. Eff the hard top. :flipoff:

Steel02001 09-15-2010 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 774318)
I did the opposite. Eff the hard top. :flipoff:

I've still got them both, hard top on right now, and I'm torn. Love the look of the soft top but love the hard top for all the rain and the cold.

Kate 09-15-2010 10:22 PM

I have both. Run the softie from the first sunny day in March till the first freeze in Nov.
That way, it isn't ravaged by the cold.
I keep my hard top stored as long as I can, but do enjoy it when it's there.

The soft top, if folded up inside the hard top will be IN THE WAY and yes, likely to rub.
They aren't that hard to take off, so why risk it?

TR3YNGLER 09-15-2010 10:28 PM

My soft top (minus the windows) is currently installed and I have the hard top on. I've looked and looked and looked some more and cannot find a single place where the soft top is rubbing on the hard top. Still, as soon as I get the new sun rider top put together and on the vehicle, I'll only ever run one at a time and will do what Kate does above, only use the hard top in the Winter. So... short answer to your question is No, I have not encountered any wear or tear on the soft top by having it still installed while the hard top is on. (Your mileage may vary)

terminator012 09-15-2010 10:38 PM

The wifes soft top is coming off like Kate says, as soon as the weather gets bad enough. It may fold back down under the hard top like it i supposed to, never tried it since we bought it the hard top is hanging in the shop, but I don't want it in the way all winter long. so I will remove it. I will let you know after the first killing frost if was a PITA or not.

uselessllama 09-15-2010 11:36 PM

The manufacturer and dealers tell you that you CANNOT have both installed at the same time. While I haven't had any experience or heard about why, I can't imagine what would be so bad about keeping both on. Regardless, even with the soft top wrapped up from the factory, it takes up space.

Also, I don't believe you can remove the soft top (as installed from the factory) from under the hard top while the hard top is on. You would need to lift the hard top to get space. The width of the soft top won't find through the rear window/tailgate.

If you're buying one and it comes with both, just ask the dealer to do the above. Lift the hard top to remove the soft top. It's purely labor, no parts. Assuming you have some way to take the soft top home, it shouldn't be a problem. If they offer to deliver a soft top to your house, you probably paid too much for it anyways.

TR3YNGLER 09-16-2010 12:27 AM

Here's how mine looks right now...

While it wear and tear from rubbing doesn't seem to be an issue, It does limit your trunk space a bit and it's hard to keep clean. This is how it was traded into the dealer and how they sold it to me. As soon as I can get the defective bows replaced on the sunrider top I just bought, I'll only do one top at a time. I just wanted to post pics so you could see what it looked like to have the soft top still in place with the hard top installed.

Jerrodma 09-16-2010 07:36 AM

Thanks for all the information.

InfernoGirl 09-16-2010 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by terminator012 (Post 774397)
I will let you know after the first killing frost if was a PITA or not.

Removing the softie is easy. Just unscrew the 4 bolts that hold it to the brackets on the roll bars, and carry it away..... We took mine off the TJ, a couple of weeks ago to give it a good bath... Nothing to it... :)

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