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s3nt3nc3d 10-02-2010 06:22 PM

Bell Ringing in my Clutch...?
 
I'm trying to determine if this is perfectly normal or if I'm about to end up stranded on the side of the road...

I recent began to notice a noise in my transmission when I was letting the clutch out that resembled the sound of a bell ringing...the only time it would do it was at a complete stop as I was letting the clutch out in first gear just about where I was hitting the friction point.

Now I hear it a lot more frequently, sometimes sitting at a stoplight with the clutch in...or sometimes I think I even hear it while in gear and while shifting gears, but it's such a subtle noise, I'm not sure if I'm actually hearing it or if my mind is playing tricks on me.

On top of that, is it normal for a couple things to happen with a manual:

First, I have started to notice that when cruising in most gears (especially second and third--and first but it's such a low gear, I consider that normal)...if I let my foot off the gas it goes from accelerating smoothly to feeling like the engine just died...decelerates pretty quickly for a moment. I'm almost suspicious of a dead spot on the TPS sensor just before where the throttle body is 100% closed.

Second, when I let off and it decelerates quickly, it also jerks back and forth like there's a lot of play between the transmission and the drive shaft or whatever...let me give an example so you can better understand what I mean:

The other night I was messing with my friend who wasn't paying attention as we were leaving his work and I decided to accelerate over a speed bump in 2nd gear (we were only going rough 10-20 mph after accelerating) and when I hit the speed bump and tried to keep it accelerating smoothly it was jerking terribly...like decelerate, accelerate, decelerate, accelerate bouncing our heads forward and backward...even though my foot was steady on the gas and my engine sounded like it was running just fine. Normal, loose/damaged transmission mount perhaps?

With as jerky as it is over bumps like that, I can't seem to think that's normal...otherwise a manual Jeep would be TERRIBLE off road...you'd be jerking your head off every time you hit a bump.

Thoughts?

MCE Mike 10-02-2010 08:46 PM

Sounds like you do have a problem with the clutch system, I would first check the throw out bearing. That requires removing the transmission from the Jeep. Whaile you are in there, I would plan to replace the clutch if you don't know how old it is.


Hard to tell about your TPS, it could be bad. Do you have a local friend with the same engine, you could swap it over to yours and test it out.

s3nt3nc3d 10-02-2010 10:03 PM

I wouldn't think I should have a clutch problem...my Jeep's only got 83,000 miles on it. TPS sensor was replaced with a new one from the dealership after my other one went out (threw a code for it...code never came back once I replaced it). But I'm kinda wondering if I may have gotten a quirky one...

MCE Mike 10-02-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 798964)
I wouldn't think I should have a clutch problem...my Jeep's only got 83,000 miles on it. TPS sensor was replaced with a new one from the dealership after my other one went out (threw a code for it...code never came back once I replaced it). But I'm kinda wondering if I may have gotten a quirky one...



Yeah that does sound like low mileage, but the bearing might have had a flaw or mud/dirt got into it. But a throw out bearing sounds mostly like what you have described.

caleb-97 10-03-2010 12:07 AM

Agreed, after a trip through some mud my throwout bearing started falling apart day by day and I hear a sound like yours. After inspecting it, the ball bearings in the throwout bearing were rattling around in my bell housing and the bearing was in pieces.

s3nt3nc3d 10-03-2010 01:38 PM

Greeeeeaaat...thanks for the advice guys...looks like I'll be ordering a clutch kit from Luk soon. Might as well replace it all while it's apart.


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