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Havok 10-14-2010 04:27 PM

AEV Heat Reduction Hood
 
Has anyone purchased and set this up? pro's and con's?

picture coming soon

[http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Imag...144318-lg.jpg]
heres hoping

Bombero37A 10-14-2010 04:31 PM

I'm seriously thinking about getting it. It's expensive but it looks awesome.

Havok 10-14-2010 04:34 PM

I have it on my wish list, they finally offer it painted which is nice but sucks because it jumped the price from 800 to 1170. ah the things we do for love....

Bombero37A 10-14-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Havok
I have it on my wish list, they finally offer it painted which is nice but sucks because it jumped the price from 800 to 1170. ah the things we do for love....

Which company offers it painted? Actually that's not bad. My buddy owns a body shop and he told me he'd paint it for me for 300 bucks.

Havok 10-14-2010 04:49 PM

saw it on quadratec, they updated the options I'm guessing today or yesturday. not that bad but just added another month or two of saving.

thaduke2003 10-14-2010 05:13 PM

Seen them on rigs- looks like factory. PERFECT fit & finish- get a quality paint job, or you might as well not bother. As for heat reduction, I can't say much, but it does also make it VERY easy to fit an AEV snorkel- Mark W.

Bombero37A 10-14-2010 11:48 PM

It's definately on my list of mods!

terminator012 10-14-2010 11:52 PM

Why did I get an OOOPS the page you requested is not available???

ncossey 10-15-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Havok
Has anyone purchased and set this up? pro's and con's?

picture coming soon

[http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Imag...144318-lg.jpg]
heres hoping

Pro's - umm looks cool, and helps cool off an engine that pretty much has zero issues with overheating???
Con's - expensive, serves no practical purpose unless you actually use your vehicle offroad the majority of the time, who honestly needs a snorkle, they look cool and all but how many people that have one have honestly submerged a 30,000 dollar vehicle
More cons - you could use that 1,000 bucks on something that could actually be put to use like lockers, winch, lights etc...

kawasakizx636 10-15-2010 05:04 AM

I'll be purchasing this soon. I'll post back here once I have it installed.

Hilldweller 10-15-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ncossey (Post 820774)
Pro's - umm looks cool, and helps cool off an engine that pretty much has zero issues with overheating???
Con's - expensive, serves no practical purpose unless you actually use your vehicle offroad the majority of the time, who honestly needs a snorkle, they look cool and all but how many people that have one have honestly submerged a 30,000 dollar vehicle
More cons - you could use that 1,000 bucks on something that could actually be put to use like lockers, winch, lights etc...

Any time you're offroad and going slowly the temperatures under the hood skyrocket and engine performance suffers. The AEV hood takes a step toward mitigating the situation.
I don't think the hood alone does enough to justify the pricetag; you have to like the way it looks as well.
A snorkel, on the other hand, is always working to give your engine cooler air. Like I said, it's always warm under there and it's very hot when you're in 4-low and getting into mischief.
A snorkel gives you nice cool air at that time.

And a snorkel also has a couple of other benefits.
It takes it's source air from a higher altitude, above the majority of medium-density particulates that are floating around on the trail just waiting to contaminate your air filter. Used with a prefilter, you can extend the life of your air filter a good long time.
I don't know about you but, I can foul my air filter to the point of needing a replacement in half a day of ordinary wheeling. I'll do what everyone does and tap it clean on the bumper but, that's no substitute for an actually clean filter.

Snorkels are good things, not just for poseurs.

ncossey 10-15-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 820886)
Any time you're offroad and going slowly the temperatures under the hood skyrocket and engine performance suffers. The AEV hood takes a step toward mitigating the situation.
I don't think the hood alone does enough to justify the pricetag; you have to like the way it looks as well.
A snorkel, on the other hand, is always working to give your engine cooler air. Like I said, it's always warm under there and it's very hot when you're in 4-low and getting into mischief.
A snorkel gives you nice cool air at that time.

And a snorkel also has a couple of other benefits.
It takes it's source air from a higher altitude, above the majority of medium-density particulates that are floating around on the trail just waiting to contaminate your air filter. Used with a prefilter, you can extend the life of your air filter a good long time.
I don't know about you but, I can foul my air filter to the point of needing a replacement in half a day of ordinary wheeling. I'll do what everyone does and tap it clean on the bumper but, that's no substitute for an actually clean filter.

Snorkels are good things, not just for poseurs.

I realize that friend, but the average jeep owner who probably puts their rig offroad once a month would be better off spending their money elsewhere. "tap it clean on the bumper" hahahah I feel you on that, filters have jumped alot in price the last couple of years, I guess Im gonna end up breaking down and buying a K&N, I just have a weird track record with those, seems like everytime I buy one I end up selling my rig shortly afterwards, luckily I like my jeep more than any offroad rig Ive owned.

Hilldweller 10-15-2010 01:36 PM

The K&N will let all that debris into your engine.
No vehicle taken offroad should have a K&N or other oiled gauze filter installed.

krutj 10-15-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 821467)
K&The N will let all that debris into your engine.
No vehicle taken offroad should have a K&N or other oiled gauze filter installed
.

Yep, agree here. Those are crap^^.:doh:

I'm looking into louvers for my hood, anybody install them?

Jeep Patrol 10-15-2010 06:41 PM

Oh, I found the CON! It doesnt have bumpers for ALL those times you want to drop your windshield.

ncossey 10-15-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeep Patrol
Oh, I found the CON! It doesnt have bumpers for ALL those times you want to drop your windshield.

ROFL. A half inch drill bit could fix that real quick

Wallygator 10-15-2010 06:50 PM

Have to disagree on the K&N. I put a drop in replacement in my 03 TJ more than a year and a half ago and my intake tube is spotlessly clean. And most of my driving is dusty logging roads and trails to good fishing spots.

Hilldweller 10-16-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallygator (Post 821916)
Have to disagree on the K&N. I put a drop in replacement in my 03 TJ more than a year and a half ago and my intake tube is spotlessly clean. And most of my driving is dusty logging roads and trails to good fishing spots.

Have you sent your used motor oil to a lab for analysis?
If not, you have no basis for argument at all.
Send it in; see how elevated your silicate levels are. Go ahead; try it.

Stoneaxe 10-16-2010 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by krutj (Post 821722)
Yep, agree here. Those are crap^^.:doh:

I'm looking into louvers for my hood, anybody install them?

I carved holes in my TJ hood for Run-Cool hood louvres. They seemed to work out fine. I've since sold off the TJ and got the JK. After carving a couple more holes, I've got the Genright hood louvres on that.

Nothing robs performance and shortens life expectancy of a mechanical system like excessive heat. Heat extraction, especially in off-road situations where there's not alot of airflow, is important.

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Gate53 10-16-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 820886)
Any time you're offroad and going slowly the temperatures under the hood skyrocket and engine performance suffers. The AEV hood takes a step toward mitigating the situation.
I don't think the hood alone does enough to justify the pricetag; you have to like the way it looks as well.
A snorkel, on the other hand, is always working to give your engine cooler air. Like I said, it's always warm under there and it's very hot when you're in 4-low and getting into mischief.
A snorkel gives you nice cool air at that time.

And a snorkel also has a couple of other benefits.
It takes it's source air from a higher altitude, above the majority of medium-density particulates that are floating around on the trail just waiting to contaminate your air filter. Used with a prefilter, you can extend the life of your air filter a good long time.
I don't know about you but, I can foul my air filter to the point of needing a replacement in half a day of ordinary wheeling. I'll do what everyone does and tap it clean on the bumper but, that's no substitute for an actually clean filter.

Snorkels are good things, not just for poseurs.

I call BS. I had my rig in some of the dustiest, hottest crap day in and day out this summer (Over 100 and fine ground KY dust on trails and rocks) for 8 and 10 hours at a time and the 4 banger never missed a lick. If anyone "Needs" this it is purely for the looks or they need to see a mechanic.

krutj 10-16-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoneaxe (Post 822552)
I carved holes in my TJ hood for Run-Cool hood louvres. They seemed to work out fine. I've since sold off the TJ and got the JK. After carving a couple more holes, I've got the Genright hood louvres on that.

Excellent!! Are these working out good? I've found one other company that makes these, but I'd support Genright if these are a good product.

My biggest concern is water infiltration into the engine compartment in places that may be harmful.

Your install looks great!

Stoneaxe 10-16-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by krutj (Post 822566)
Excellent!! Are these working out good? I've found one other company that makes these, but I'd support Genright if these are a good product.

My biggest concern is water infiltration into the engine compartment in places that may be harmful.

Your install looks great!

For all the vehicles you have to be mindful of the placement of the louvres. Obviously you don't want to place them over something silly like the alternator, air intake, etc. For the most part, everything under the hood is water-tight. It all gets wet when you drive in the rain anyhow.

The forward lovre on the JK sits over the gap between the radiator and engine. The two rear sit behind the alternator.

The TJ sat to the rear of the engine. No trouble there. The Formula has a water routing manifold on the bottom side of the hood to shunt water to either side and to the front of the block.

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krutj 10-16-2010 07:24 AM

Looks great.............:blunt:

krutj 10-16-2010 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gate53 (Post 822561)
I call BS. I had my rig in some of the dustiest, hottest crap day in and day out this summer (Over 100 and fine ground KY dust on trails and rocks) for 8 and 10 hours at a time and the 4 banger never missed a lick. If anyone "Needs" this it is purely for the looks or they need to see a mechanic.

You Sir, are very misinformed...........:banghead:

jgorm 10-16-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoneaxe (Post 822552)
I carved holes in my TJ hood for Run-Cool hood louvres. They seemed to work out fine. I've since sold off the TJ and got the JK. After carving a couple more holes, I've got the Genright hood louvres on that.

Nothing robs performance and shortens life expectancy of a mechanical system like excessive heat. Heat extraction, especially in off-road situations where there's not alot of airflow, is important.

Nice! Nothing beats the DIY mod where you get the same function at 1/10 the price.:punk: The AEV hood is WAY too expensive for its usefulness. High underhood temps are a killer on engine performance. When the IATs get over 176F the engine will pull between 4 and 7* of timing (depending on map and rpm), and you will feel that for sure. That is pretty hot, but i've seen IATs that high while wheeling over rocks in the desert. Evacuating some of the radiator heat is also never a bad thing. I'm going to add some louvers to my hood after i do a couple other mods.

Wallygator 10-16-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 822532)
Have you sent your used motor oil to a lab for analysis?
If not, you have no basis for argument at all.
Send it in; see how elevated your silicate levels are. Go ahead; try it.

Theres no place local here that does that. But I've been running the K and N in all my vehicles for as long as I can remember and none of them has ever developed engine problems. Even my old Ranger hunting truck went over 400k before I sold it and didn't use a drop of oil. Most of the wheelers herre are using drop in rreplacements like mine. some have full cold air systems but considering you are ususally not running high RPMs in the bush to me those are pointless. And K&N warranties that if an engine fails due to the use of thier product they will replace it.
Besides that what else ya gonna use? A piece of crap FRAM

Hilldweller 10-16-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallygator (Post 822804)
Theres no place local here that does that. But I've been running the K and N in all my vehicles for as long as I can remember and none of them has ever developed engine problems. Even my old Ranger hunting truck went over 400k before I sold it and didn't use a drop of oil. Most of the wheelers herre are using drop in rreplacements like mine. some have full cold air systems but considering you are ususally not running high RPMs in the bush to me those are pointless. And K&N warranties that if an engine fails due to the use of thier product they will replace it.
Besides that what else ya gonna use? A piece of crap FRAM

The OE paper element is about as good as you need.

If you're using K&N in a JK, try sending a sample of your used oil to Blackstone Labs for analysis. They'll tell you a volume of info about what's going on inside your engine.

I hate getting into internet pissing matches about things, especially when I challenge accepted wisdom. Like I do with popular headlight systems, K&N, and other stuff.

Here's what I do for a living. I'm a facility administrator for a gas/liquid chromatograph & spectrum analyzer training lab. These are the gizmos that do oil analysis, make sure that each barrel of Maker's Mark is safe, figure out what's in the splooge found at the crime scene, etc.
I also support the field engineers that sell and support customers with the electronic measurement equipment.

I'm not a scientist, I'm a generalist. My certs are in electronics.
But I am one of those totally outgoing and talkative types --- I have lunch/coffee with the scientists all the time and I'm not shy at all.
And most of them aren't shy either. I ask them everything that I can think of about motor oil, air filters and their effect on oil, gas, etc.
And their answers aren't opinion; their answers are cold hard fact, backed up with pages of data.

A few of the engineers don't mind if I quote them directly; some do and I honor that like a blood oath.
Blackstone doesn't use our equipment or train in our labs so I'm comfortable recommending them for testing. I've called them on the phone and discussed their testing method; I'm happy with the way they do things.

Give it a try to satisfy yourself. But you should know ahead of time that when I say snorkel good K&N bad, it's not to satisfy some weird agenda I have, it's to save my Jeep brothers a bunch of heartache.

Triel 10-17-2010 07:05 AM

Bill,
I'm glad you mentioned that K&N air filters are bad for Jeeps. I was planning on getting one for my Jeep, until I saw this. Don't think I need a snorkel yet though. I think I'll wait to see where I'm stationed next before I get one.

Terry

jgorm 10-17-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 823201)
Here's what I do for a living. I'm a facility administrator for a gas/liquid chromatograph & spectrum analyzer training lab.

While i respect your opinion, i will disagree with you. If you stated that you have tests from the same vehicle, same oil change interval, same driving conditions, with a paper filter vs a oil filter than i may change my opinion on the subject.

I am also a scientist that deals with specialized equipment (HPLC, NMR, MS, etc), so I understand what goes on with the testing and how to interpret the results. While my evidence is not directly related, i have seen numerous blackstone results for mustangs running K&N type filters with great results. I have heard people on the 'net' say that they are bad in jeeps and let loads of dirt in, but i'll chock that up to user error. I had a drop in K&N in my last jeep that the PO installed. My intake was always super clean without a hint of dust. Simple reasoning would lead one to believe that if the intake is clean, the engine is also clean. I will be running an oil based filter in my jeep as soon as i get around to installing the cowl intake system. I will say that i will probably throw in a paper filter on the cowl when i go offroading for extra protection. I also base my opinion on what i have seen from the desert racing crowd. Oil type K&Ns with a prefilter are the norm from dirt bikes to dune buggies.

thaduke2003 10-17-2010 01:51 PM

^Agreed. The rally cars I used to race for Subaru had a K&N oil-type medium filter installed on every one. They saw SEVERE, high-speed, wide-open-throttle use on dirt, snow, mud, gravel- anything, and ran them. So do both of my JK's.

Worst case, I have a lifetime powertrain warranty, but I'm quite confident it won't be used due to dirt- Mark W.


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