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Merzescorner 10-20-2010 11:50 AM

99 TJ: in dash speakers
 
I have a completely stock stero which includes the two in dash speakers and the two speakers on the bar. One of the in dash speakers is bad, so I'm looking to replace it. Has anyone used the kicker in dash instead of the oem model? if I don't change out the stereo, will it help to have a higher quality speaker in there? Or if i took the jeep in for a complete stereo system installation, would the kicker speakers still have a place?

97sport09 10-20-2010 12:16 PM

I would say that anything is better than what the stock speakers in there are. You wouldn't even need to change out the stereo if you don't want to, put in some rockford fosgate, polk audio, kicker, anything really. I'm not a fan of pioneer's that's just my opinion though...

InfernoGirl 10-20-2010 12:17 PM

Yes better speakers will help. Lots of us replace the dash 4x6's with an adapter plate and 5.25" speakers, and the sound bar speakers with 6.5". Of course a new head unit will improve the sound further. Don't pay someone to do it, it's easy to do yourself...

Hostile JEEP T.J 10-20-2010 12:31 PM

Yeah get the bigger adapter plate and add 5 1/4 speakers then change the overhead pods to 6 1/2! They will sound good but if you get a good head unit with the built in amplifier it will make the sound GREAT!! Get one that has at least 50watts or more by 4 channel with equalizers!! I installed all new infinity sound system in mine and when I crank it up it sounds like your in a luxury car, love them!!

ParaCAD 10-20-2010 12:40 PM

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/fro...ion-58081.html

^^^from barely a week ago...I did a SEARCH :D And there's tons more where that came from.

I just bought a set, adaptor and speakers from a guy...picking them up at jeeptoberfest!

Jerry Bransford 10-20-2010 12:47 PM

When selecting replacement speakers with the a standard head unit without an external auxiliary, make sure the speaker's Sensitivity rating is 90 dB or higher. Otherwise the amplifier won't be powerful enough to drive them properly. Lower sensitivity speakers, like 84-86 dB, require more power to drive them to adequate listening levels. Pay no attention to the big power ratings some speaker boxes brag about. A speaker rated 250 watts with an 84 dB Sensitivity rating won't sound as good or as loud with a stock head unit driving it as a 50 watt speaker with a 91 dB Sensitivity rating will.

Polk is one brand of speaker that tends to have 90 dB or better Sensitivity ratings.

Peepers 10-20-2010 01:22 PM

I replaced my 4x6 dash speakers with new 4x6's... I didn't bother with checking to make sure the new speaker mounts lined up the old ones. they didn't. I cut the old speaker out of its molded bracket and bolted the new speaker in its place. then bolted the bracket back in.

ajorosa 10-20-2010 01:46 PM

Quadratec has Kicker factory replacement speakers. No splicing necessary, just plug in and mount.

Merzescorner 10-20-2010 03:30 PM

Thanks all. If I buy the 5 1/4 bracket for the larger speakers, do I just go with the speaker of choice and cut the factory connector off and splice? that is, if the speaker I decide on doesn't come with it? I would imagine that choices are limited for speakers that have that factory connector.

Hostile JEEP T.J 10-20-2010 04:37 PM

Every speaker is gonna have universal wires that you have to tie in! Unless you order a speaker that says for your jeep and it's plug an play like the ones they sell in quadratech. So you can use any brand speaker you want your just gonna have to tie the wires in manually with connectors, if your gonna put all new speakers you might as well replace the factory head unit while your at it cause it's not gonna be able to push the the new speakers to there full capacity! Also another thing to add to Jerrys comment, what ever speakers your looking at don't be fooled by the these 6 1/2 put out 300watts or those 5 1/4 put out 280 watts! The wattage you see real big on the boxes that's the max wattage the speaker is rated and it means that's there blowing out watts! If you push those speakers anywhere near that wattage it says your gonna blow them! That's why I got my infinitys because the watts wasn't as high as most the speakers I saw at cartoys, but after demoing them they sounded way better when you cranked em up or keep em low! The decibel level is what you wanna look at like Jerry said in his previous post!!

Bruck 10-20-2010 07:00 PM

I found the 5.25" adapter on eBay for like $14. Then, I was able to get the speakers from Sony with my credit card points. Sound is better and if you have to buy the speakers you'll likely do better and have more options with the 5.25". Highly suggested by me....the experts may say different.

BigEZ 10-20-2010 08:38 PM

thanks for this thread. looks like I can get a great whole new system from QT for under 400 bones w/ no splicing.

InfernoGirl 10-20-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigEZ (Post 831563)
thanks for this thread. looks like I can get a great whole new system from QT for under 400 bones w/ no splicing.

If you piece it together yourself, you'll get better quality components and save money, no splicing required. There are adapters and harnesses available at most car audio stores to prevent any cutting, except for the bracket in the dash to mount larger dash speakers. Those metal mounts have to be cut, but it's not hard if your a little old lady and you ask some big burly guys to do it for you ;)

slamin81 10-20-2010 09:11 PM

im running the 4x6 in mine and love them sound great,, little steep in price tho

oldskool71 10-20-2010 11:11 PM

Man I need to upgrade my audio too...add this to the list plzzz...:D

lashleyftl 10-21-2010 01:24 AM

for the sound bar speakers what you do to get the 6 1/2s to fit in there

jgorm 10-21-2010 10:51 AM

This always cracks me up.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...AINSTALLED.jpg

A speaker without a box is going to sound like crap. The sound waves off the rear need to be isolated from the sound waves off the front or they cancel out. You will hear the treble from the tweeter, but the bass will be gone. If you don't believe me then take a subwoofer out of the box while its on and you will see a 10x drop in bass levels and sound quality. A 4" speaker in a box will sound better than an 8" speaker outside of a box. I did this for the fronts on mine.
http://www.joegorm.com/photogallery/...%20(Large).jpg
http://www.joegorm.com/05052008%20Gr...%20(Large).jpg

530ktm 10-21-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jgorm (Post 832575)
This always cracks me up.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...AINSTALLED.jpg

A speaker without a box is going to sound like crap. The sound waves off the rear need to be isolated from the sound waves off the front or they cancel out. You will hear the treble from the tweeter, but the bass will be gone. If you don't believe me then take a subwoofer out of the box while its on and you will see a 10x drop in bass levels and sound quality. A 4" speaker in a box will sound better than an 8" speaker outside of a box. I did this for the fronts on mine.
http://www.joegorm.com/photogallery/...%20(Large).jpg
http://www.joegorm.com/05052008%20Gr...%20(Large).jpg

What exactly did you do here? Is this a speaker box that came with the speaker or is this something you modified. I totally agree with you about the necessity of having some type of box for the speaker and the front lacks this.

Ibuildembig 10-21-2010 11:17 AM

True but that is the industry standard....and most people won't pay for you to build an enclosure for every speaker....and its not needed for bass if you have a sub :)

cork1958 10-21-2010 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hostile JEEP T.J (Post 830581)
Yeah get the bigger adapter plate and add 5 1/4 speakers then change the overhead pods to 6 1/2! They will sound good but if you get a good head unit with the built in amplifier it will make the sound GREAT!! Get one that has at least 50watts or more by 4 channel with equalizers!! I installed all new infinity sound system in mine and when I crank it up it sounds like your in a luxury car, love them!!

Have the Infinity speakers in my front dash and some Sony speakers in the sound bar, that I just had installed. I didn't go with the bigger sizes/adapter plate though.

Awesome sound coming out powered by a Pioneer Supertuner III and XM satellite radio!!

Jerry Bransford 10-21-2010 11:23 AM

Just don't forget guys that some speakers only work well with high powered auxiliary amplifiers. If you don't have that, you need to make sure any speakers you buy have that 90 dB or higher Sensitivity rating or you're going to be really disappointed with your new speakers. :)

svmtbman 10-21-2010 11:24 AM

I put some 5 1/4" in the front of my '04 as well as 6 1/2" in the roll bar and it sounds great. also I wanted to note that you DO NOT need to cut the support brace in the dash as shown in the link above to install the 5 1/4" speakers (at least I didn't in my '04).

ohsixteejay 10-21-2010 11:26 AM

I'm a bit confused. So in order to put 5 1/4" speakers in the front do you need to buy an adapter plate or is this something you guys are making? If you have an adapter plate why are you cutting? Where can I find this adapter plate?

Jerry Bransford 10-21-2010 11:30 AM

The adapter plate is widely sold all over the internet as well as by retailers like Crutchfield. There is no need to cut anything to install a 5.25" speaker with the adapter plate.

Ibuildembig 10-21-2010 11:36 AM

Or you could save time and bs and go to your local retailer and pick some up

jgorm 10-21-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 530ktm (Post 832628)
What exactly did you do here? Is this a speaker box that came with the speaker or is this something you modified. I totally agree with you about the necessity of having some type of box for the speaker and the front lacks this.

I cut a chunk out of the stock enclosure to fit the polks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibuildembig (Post 832632)
True but that is the industry standard....and most people won't pay for you to build an enclosure for every speaker....and its not needed for bass if you have a sub :)

But why install a bigger more expensive speaker if it will sound worse than a smaller cheaper speaker in a proper enclosure?:bottom:

ohsixteejay 10-21-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgorm (Post 832718)
I cut a chunk out of the stock enclosure to fit the polks.

Could you be more specific on what you did? I would like to do that as well.

jgorm 10-21-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsixteejay (Post 832748)
Could you be more specific on what you did? I would like to do that as well.

Not really.:doh: I cut the chunk out so the polks would fit in. The tweeter is normally surface mounted so you need to cut out the plastic so the polks fit into the box. Just place the polk speakers on the box and cut out whatever is in the way.

ohsixteejay 10-21-2010 01:23 PM

Oh ok, I was thinking you made the box but i'm guessing now the speaker came with the box?

jgorm 10-21-2010 01:42 PM

yup, that is the stock speaker box.


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