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cocktail 03-19-2007 02:14 PM

remote starter
 
i turned in my 03 liberty renegade KJ for my new 4 door sahara JK.....SOOOO HAPPY!!!!!! BUT my KJ was an auto and i had my remote starter in there and absolutley loved having the starter......my JK is now a manual......can that starter still be put in a manual.....i hear about some places that do it and some that dont because of liability issues....any thoughts or comments for me?......and obviously there is a chip in the new key fobs......but i dont want to give up my spare key fob.....so i ask this.....if i get the $6 vallet key will that have the chip in it so they can put it in the box and in the dash for the starter to work?:)

blackjeep77 03-19-2007 07:07 PM

I used to install at Circuit City back in the day. Yes, you can put a remote start on a manual transmission. I put one on my 5-speed 95 Grand Am. However, to do it safely, you need to buy a remote start/alarm that is designed for a manual transmission. The alarm units that are made specifically for manual transmissions have additional interlocks that must be met in order for the car to start.

The Alarm/remote start I had was a:

(Clifford Ace 7500)

The way it worked on my Grand Am was that I had to:
1. Car is currently running
2. Set Parking Brake
3. Put the car in neutral
4. Activate remote start
5. Remove the ignition key (car stays running because remote start was activated)
6. Open car door and exit the car
7. Close car door. (you are now outside the vehicle but the car is in neutral and still running)
8. Set (arm) the alarm. (The car doors will lock and alarm will set and the vehicle will turn off).

This sequence had to be done everytime you exited the car for the remote start to be enabled.
The whole purpose of this sequence is that you know for sure that the car is left in neutral.

Now anytime you hit the remote start button on your keypad, the car will safely start in neutral.

Exceptions: If the car alarm is disarmed (unlocked), the remote start is disabled.

If the alarm is triggered for any reason, it will disable the remote start.

The only problem putting this on a Jeep is that Jeeps are convertable tops.
Someone could reach inside and put the car in gear without the alarm going off.
You could add a proximity sensor to the alarm but from my experience, they cause to many false alarms when people walk too close.
If your Jeep is equipped with a transponder in the key. Then any ignition type key that came stock with the vehicle will work to bypass the facory anti theft. You can get an extra from the dealer, but they are pricy. I doubt that a $6 dollar vallet key has the chip inside it. If the key has the big grey grip at the base, then it probably has the chip.
Also, maybe they have come out with a new module that doesnt need the key to stay in the dash. I know that for installing on Ford vehicles, you only needed the key to program the bypass module during the installation. Call your local install shop and find out.

There are probably alot more remote start/alarm models available these days. Just make sure they are (manual transmission compatable.)
This is also something you want to have installed professionally.

BeerMonkeY 03-19-2007 08:29 PM

i still do remote starts and everything the previois post said is pretty much true, you can get a unprogrammed key from ebay (make sure it has the gray head) and program it your self after someone cuts it for you, but it is something you should have done by a professional because new chrylser products are a pain to put remote starts in

Hack07 03-21-2007 07:52 PM

The $6 vallet key won't work you need a key with the chip in it.

Absolute Offroad 03-21-2007 11:13 PM

I would not do it. I know its an inconvienece, But by putting an extra key in the vehicle, it defeats the purpose of the sentry key. I know for a fact that you CAN NOT do it with an auto right now, because the auto has "One touch" starting. Just my .o2 cents.

Joe




Quote:

Originally Posted by cocktail (Post 64096)
i turned in my 03 liberty renegade KJ for my new 4 door sahara JK.....SOOOO HAPPY!!!!!! BUT my KJ was an auto and i had my remote starter in there and absolutley loved having the starter......my JK is now a manual......can that starter still be put in a manual.....i hear about some places that do it and some that dont because of liability issues....any thoughts or comments for me?......and obviously there is a chip in the new key fobs......but i dont want to give up my spare key fob.....so i ask this.....if i get the $6 vallet key will that have the chip in it so they can put it in the box and in the dash for the starter to work?:)


Hack07 03-22-2007 04:40 PM

I had remote start put on my 07 works great. The key is for the ignition bypass and needs the key w/chip.

blackjeep77 03-25-2007 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolute Offroad (Post 64903)
I would not do it. I know its an inconvienece, But by putting an extra key in the vehicle, it defeats the purpose of the sentry key. I know for a fact that you CAN NOT do it with an auto right now, because the auto has "One touch" starting. Just my .o2 cents.

Joe


The Sentry alarm system will still work as normal. The only time it is bypassed is when the remote start is activated. The Key that you leave inside the car has to be cut. It would not be able to be used for an ignition key anymore. Not to mention, most remote starts have additional anti-theft features built in, like starter kill. I am unfamiliar with one-touch starting but like anything if there is a will, there is a way.

BeerMonkeY 03-25-2007 09:52 PM

whats one touch starting? and if you are worried about someone breaking inot jeep and getting the key thats for the remote start do what we do at work sometimes and after we program the key and know the remotes start works we grind the key so it cannot be used in the key cly

JohnnyRigger 03-31-2007 11:16 PM

I have a remote start on my P/U all i hade to do is by-pass the neutral safety switch..


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