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Adventurous 03-23-2007 03:17 PM

Jack Question
 
Will the stock jack work with 31's and a 2" lift? If not, do you have any jack recommendations?

Joe Dirt 03-23-2007 03:40 PM

You need the jeepers best friend- a Hi-lift (jack, winch and everything else in one). You'll never regret it

Unlimited 03-23-2007 03:42 PM

To change a tire? Yes. Just put it under the axle.

Jerry Bransford 03-23-2007 03:55 PM

The factory jack will lift a Jeep high enough to change a 35" tire, you don't need a Hi-Lift to change a Jeep's tires. Indeed, a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.

Rawkon 03-23-2007 04:47 PM

why would you consider it last resort? Ive used mine too put my spring back in. worked great and fast

Unlimited 03-23-2007 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 65329)
...... a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.

The only place I can get a safe grab with my Hi-Lift is on my bumper or rock sliders. I would have to lift the body pretty high to get a wheel off the ground so it could be changed. And I doubt if I could do it without a spring falling out if I was on the trail with my sway bars disconnected.

Jerry Bransford 03-23-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawkon (Post 65337)
why would you consider it last resort? Ive used mine too put my spring back in. worked great and fast

Re-read exactly what I said. :)

1BLKJP 03-23-2007 06:34 PM

I'm with Jerry on this one. If I can avoid using my hi-lift just to change a tire then I do. I have to crank it almost all of the way up to get the tire off the ground and then it's not very stable at all. The stock jack under a control arm on the axle works perfectly.

Don't get me wrong. That bad boy has a helluva lot of uses on the trail. We've used them for everything from springs, hi-centered, come alongs, handle as a tie rod sleeve, and countless others. I however just don't like to have it on the pavement with that jack being the only thing supporting it.

bluvikng 03-23-2007 07:42 PM

Jerry, is so very correct. A high lift, is a very dangerous instrument. It has a lot of uses, but is not that necessary. A good winch, and your basic lift, from factory, is far safer. If you need more lift, under your axle, carry a 6" long 4X4 to make up the difference. Way more safer. Good call, Jerry!!!!!!!!!!

rebelBullDawg325 03-23-2007 08:52 PM

agreed.... any of yall ever seen a hi-lift kick out from under somethin?

rich1014 03-23-2007 09:19 PM

I have a hi lift - BUT I also keep a few short pieces of 2X4 & 4X4 for whatever comes.

1BLKJP 03-24-2007 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rebelBullDawg325 (Post 65391)
agreed.... any of yall ever seen a hi-lift kick out from under somethin?

Yup

Joe Dirt 03-24-2007 02:59 AM

Use a strap to hold the axle to the frame and the highlift to jack it up. It works great everytime. You do it your way and I'll do in mine.

Jerry Bransford 03-24-2007 11:27 AM

By the time you get your axle strapped to the frame so you can jack your TJ up, which I have done myself when using my Hi-Lift, I'll have my 35" tire off with the bottle jack. :)

Why are some people so stubborn about Hi-Lifts, insisting on using them even for changing tires? :confused:

Rawkon 03-24-2007 07:35 PM

gotcha thanks.

i only use mine when its on stable ground and balanced.

04moneypit 03-24-2007 07:41 PM

I bought mine used, so I didn't have a factory jack, ie all I now carry is the high lift, but, I don't care to change tires with it, and If I can avoid it, I use my floor jack at home.

spanky 02-15-2008 11:50 PM

ok i just bought a wrangler. it has no jack what so ever. the jeep has a 9" suspension lift and a 1" body lift with 37" tires. so is someone gonna tell me to not use a Hi Jack as my only jack? is there something safer to change a tire with the set up i listed? yes i know hi jacks are great and all, they do this that and the other, but for me buying ONE jack and ONE jack only to use where ever i may need it, trail, street, where ever... what would you recommend ?

distortedtj 02-16-2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 194432)
ok i just bought a wrangler. it has no jack what so ever. the jeep has a 9" suspension lift and a 1" body lift with 37" tires. so is someone gonna tell me to not use a Hi Jack as my only jack? is there something safer to change a tire with the set up i listed? yes i know hi jacks are great and all, they do this that and the other, but for me buying ONE jack and ONE jack only to use where ever i may need it, trail, street, where ever... what would you recommend ?

get a good aftermarket bottle jack /// most aftermarket bottle jacks have an ajustable head that you can hieghten up to the axle before you jack

:wavey:

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spanky 03-19-2008 02:21 AM

ok i just measured, i need 18" to get my tires off the ground enough to change them. mind you this is on level ground.

i would love a bottle jack to do this, but the higher they seem to pump up, the larger the actual size of jack.
(yes im familiar with the adjustable heads) i dont want to be carrying a 60 lb jack everywhere i go. guess i can always buy a smaller sized one and carry some 4x4 with me, but is that ideal?

what does anyone recommend?

whiteyj 03-19-2008 09:48 AM

A couple of 4x4 blocks as others have mentioned under the bottle jack shortens the distance to the axle and reduces the pumping required.

MOz 03-19-2008 11:33 AM

For the record, I'll be the guy who keeps the high lift jack that everyone can borrow (just as long as I can borrow your bottle jack).

spanky 03-19-2008 10:30 PM

something i just thought of... would a stock jack from a full size truck, like a ford F350 for instance, be something to look into? i wonder what the stealership would charge ya for a jack? also, wonder how much "lift" those jacks would do.

anyone here have a full size 3/4 or 1 ton truck?? and that also knows how high their stock jack on said vehicle goes up??

Jerry Bransford 03-20-2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 208569)
ok i just measured, i need 18" to get my tires off the ground enough to change them. mind you this is on level ground.

18"? What? Your axles are only 1" taller off the ground than mine are and my OE bottle jack is fine, you don't need 18" of lift to get your tire off the ground. How do you come up with 18"? Where are you jacking from? Hopefully not the tub or bumper, you should be jacking from under the axle.

spanky 03-20-2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 209071)
18"? What? Your axles are only 1" taller off the ground than mine are and my OE bottle jack is fine, you don't need 18" of lift to get your tire off the ground. How do you come up with 18"? Where are you jacking from? Hopefully not the tub or bumper, you should be jacking from under the axle.

ok jerry, i measured from the bottom of the axle (nearest the tire) and strait to the ground. the measurement was just over 16" i rounded it up to 18" allowing about 2" for tire removal/replacement.

so if i dont need 18" of lift to get my tire off the ground then maybe you can be so kind to explain to me exactly what I need.

spanky 03-20-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 65329)
The factory jack will lift a Jeep high enough to change a 35" tire, you don't need a Hi-Lift to change a Jeep's tires. Indeed, a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.

does that hold true for 37" tires??

mr4x4 03-20-2008 01:07 AM

I use my factory jack to change a 35" tire and axles

(As you can see I didn't read any other posts just the first two)

mrbigjeep 03-20-2008 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 209079)
does that hold true for 37" tires??

as long as the bottle jack has another inch of travel, then yes.

(the bottom of your axle is only an inch higher up than an axle with 35's.)

Jerry Bransford 03-20-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 209076)
ok jerry, i measured from the bottom of the axle (nearest the tire) and strait to the ground. the measurement was just over 16" i rounded it up to 18" allowing about 2" for tire removal/replacement.

so if i dont need 18" of lift to get my tire off the ground then maybe you can be so kind to explain to me exactly what I need.

I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.

1BLKJP 03-20-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 209261)
I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.

I run my bottle jack off the actualy joint on my control arm and I have no problem getting my 35's off the ground. With all of the travel in my suspension I can max out my 48" Hi Lift and still not get a tire off the ground. :D

spanky 03-20-2008 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 209261)
I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.

its ok, it did come off harsh :mad: but no worries.


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