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gospelsos 11-14-2010 02:35 AM

so my jeep sunk in a pond now i need some help :(
Hi guys

I just recently got my 97 TJ wrangler sport 5 speed manual and i was exploring some dirt roads when I came across a huge pond in the road i think the snow melted and created it in the middle of the road anyways i tried to do a three point turn to get out of there and I fell in and the jeep was in water up to the top of the fender flares and it has a 4 inch lift with 33's so it was pretty bad. the water was in to my knees and i tried as much as i could to get it out of the water but i couldnt.

8 hours later i got it winched out and towed back to my place. as far as i know no water got in the intake but it still wont start.
today i changed the oil and removed all the spark plugs and tried to crank it to see if i could get some of the water out but nothing happened. everything turns on but the engine is just quiet. when i tired to turn it on too the clutch was really really stiff and hard to push down.
idk because i live in north dakota and its below freezing outside so maybe the water is frozen inside the engine? im not sure but how should i go about reviving my jeep or am i screwed?

jasonwrangler 11-14-2010 03:09 AM

frozen starter motor?

chucky cheese 11-14-2010 06:56 AM

Chadwick Lives!

JackdUp 11-14-2010 07:29 AM

No photos???

I suggest you leave the Jeep alone for 3-5 days. Let it sit in a garage with one or two electric foot heaters warming up and completely drying out the engine block. This is a small investment in money and time before you hit the panic button.

You have to keep in mind all the sensitive electronics under the hood. It could be anything waterlogged so dont rush burning something out. Let it dry.

Case and point:
I was at the car wash spraying down my Corvette engine just to clean it. When I was done, damn thing wouldn't start. Yeah, all the lights came on, but no engine turn over. Winds up I sprayed too close to the throttle body, saturating a key electronic component. I simply unplugged the component and let it dry out. Over 3 hours later, the car finally started, but remained in Reduced Engine Power. Once I got it home, I disconnected the battery and used a blow dryer to dry it out even further, then let it sit to completely dry out. 2 days later, reconnected battery and prayed for a miracle. Started right up, no codes.

I only sprayed my engine down. You nearly drowned your baby, so take it slow.

Keep us posted

robbiecc 11-14-2010 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by gospelsos (Post 875247)
Hi guys

anyways i tried to do a three point turn to get out of there and I fell in and the jeep was in water up to the top of the fender flares and it has a 4 inch lift with 33's so it was pretty bad. the water was in to my knees and i tried as much as i could to get it out of the water but i couldnt.

Try as i might, i just don't see how you ended up in the water attempting the manuver you state. I can see maybe the ass end gettin wet but not that far in
Any way, sh*t happens, wish you luck and hope it's not too serious or costly.

ESP 11-14-2010 08:12 AM

G-Pur 11-14-2010 08:58 AM

damn it, not this again.

BANGER 11-14-2010 09:26 AM

I think most of us know how you ended up in the water but I for one would like hear the real story .


Loic 11-14-2010 09:28 AM

LOL, sry, i couldnt help it...
like said before, let it dry for couple days

redneckpilot 11-14-2010 10:39 AM

If you do a search on Chadwick, you will see someone who had a similar problem. There was a lot of good advice there, along with a lot of ridicule. Hope you've got some thick skin, and good luck.

Also, Chadwick claimed it was a pond too... :-)

Loic 11-14-2010 10:50 AM

yeah, a pond........the size of the red sea...:rofl::rofl:

T2000J 11-14-2010 11:38 AM

It could be worse ..

zildijianxiv 11-14-2010 11:39 AM

This is how it happened, we were mudding at night went down some random dirt road that got narrow and eventually ended up turning into a body of water, gospel doesnt even have his liscense yet and I wasnt really paying attention and he shouldve just have thrown it into reverse down the road but instead he tried to turn around reversed into the water and the mud was soft and it got stuck. Not as bad as the chadwick situation, no dive team needed LOL. The water wasnt crazy high(jumped in the next day to the freezing cold water to hook up a tow chain and it was slightly below my waist) but it did start to flood around the floor up to the shifter eventually because the water was rocking back aand forth as we tried to get it out. I let the oil drain for a day was a milky brown color then flushed it with 2 quarts last night, put new oil in and pulled the plugs and he cranked the ignition, just made a short hiss a couple times and it was 28 degrees out at the time. its been sitting in the driveway for 2 1/2 days at below freezing temps. probably gonna get it in my garage today and throw some heaters on it. Also there is a greyish white milky substance leaking around the u joint towards the front of the driveshaft. Neither of us know much about vehicles so all the help is apprecated.

JackdUp 11-14-2010 11:56 AM

Reference Jeep Afogado Video.....


Surfs Up!!

To the OP: Disconnect battery, Pull the spark plug wires and plugs, add a few heaters, let it warm up and completely dry out. Change the oil and other fluids necessary. Once a few days have passed and all is bone dry, reinstall plugs and wires, change the oil and reconnect battery. Turn to the start position and look over the warning lights first. Then try and start it.

What can help us help you is, make sure you have a quality video camera pointing at the engine when you fire it up. If it does not start or even if it does and makes weird noises, posting the video can help experts narrow it down by the noises. Sometines, describing "its making this weird noise" dont help much. Trust me, I have done this before and posted on the ZO6VETTE forum and it was pegged spot on. I had a bad lifter.

Keep us posted.

T2000J 11-14-2010 12:00 PM

You gota get it in and warm . I would do a compleat fluid change on everything.
Probly do a compleat tune up too .I'd change all the fluids a few times once it's running and moving agin .
Freezing water is bad on seals, gaskets, etc.

Gate53 11-14-2010 12:04 PM

Stick or auto?
You need to change all fluids, diffs, transmission, transfer case.
These may help:

Differential Service
AX-15 Manual Transmission Service
D-30 Axle Shaft Seal Replacement - 1

And you've done the oil. More than likely water in all of them. The heat might dry out your elec connections.

ygohome 11-14-2010 02:19 PM

between gospelsos, chadwick and Zildi, I don't know who to believe or whats going on. lol.

it goes without saying but I'm going to say it anyway, change all of the fluids in everything... maybe even do that twice. change the plugs. Could be the ignition coil pack but who knows. First thing though is to get it clean and dry and change the fluids.

Bruck 11-14-2010 02:59 PM

Was there a girl involved?:rofl:

Sorry dude...That was cold. I really wish you the best of luck.

bobjenkins 11-14-2010 03:08 PM

Chadwicks girlfriend lives

David Lucas 11-14-2010 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by bobjenkins (Post 875828)
Chadwicks girlfriend lives

You mean she's makin' the 'rounds.:D

csamn2007 11-14-2010 05:35 PM

X152 for letting it dry out.

Pictures or it didnt happen....

gospelsos 11-14-2010 07:40 PM

yes zild was with me nd no gf was involved. its a manual and i think there dana 44's. gonna be uploading a video. with everything. the front axel is leaking from the join in the diff cover and its a steady stream is tht an easy fix? will upload some pics

dentedvw 11-14-2010 07:51 PM

STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING! Open the diffs, drain the bong water out. Put cover back on, fill with gear lube. Repeat. You will need to replace one or more axle seals, for crying out loud don't drive it any farther with water in the differentials! Repeat this sequence with the transmission, transfer case, pretty much everything that holds fluids except the cupholders. Don't even flat tow it to a garage. Heat, drain, fill. Repeat. It's leaking at the diff cover or the transfer case? If it's the side of the diffs that the drive shaft is attached to, then your pinion seals are suspect as well. Oy Vay!

dentedvw 11-14-2010 07:51 PM

I meant bog water. Or maybe not.

Ted_D 11-14-2010 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by T2000J (Post 875575)

So Chadwick couldn't make it across the pond so tries to cross the lake? :rofl:

JackdUp 11-14-2010 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by dentedvw (Post 876232)
......everything that holds fluids except the cupholders.

Hahahaha. Good one

rrich 11-14-2010 09:12 PM

So the immediate problem is it won't crank?
Suspect the starter got water in it and froze. Put the heater so it heats the starter to dry it out.

Once it's dry and if it still won't crank, try tapping on the starter solenoid while someone tries to crank it. Mud may have gotten in it.

And clean battery cables, make sure the battery is fully charged - something may have been left on while soaking.

bobjenkins 11-14-2010 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by ESP123 (Post 875371)

I wouldlike to know what battle site thats at?

legman68 11-14-2010 10:10 PM

Dude that sucks! All I can say is good luck, and if you're the praying type, that wouldn't hurt:rolleyes:

zildijianxiv 11-14-2010 10:35 PM

Thats the video of the sound it makes while trying to start. Had heaters on it all day, new plugs.

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