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Mr Custom 11-16-2010 05:36 AM

Remote Start
 
I am wanting to put a remote start in my 04 wrangler. Has anyone done this? Any suggestions? :punk:

Atthehop 11-16-2010 05:38 AM

No one will install it on a manual trans. If you have a manual you have to DIY.

s3nt3nc3d 11-16-2010 09:55 AM

I've been hearing ads on the radio around here for a remote-start retailer saying they install remote starts on virtually all vehicles including manual transmissions and diesels...I'm sure you could find someone willing to do it. It's just harder because of the safeties you have to work around/defeat to install the remote-start...but as far as I'm aware, they make added safeties in some kits (ie won't allow the remote-start to operate when tranny is in gear) to help safeguard against the safeties they had to defeat (ie clutch safety switch).

shrubeck 11-16-2010 12:36 PM

If someone has actually installed on in a manual, maybe they can correct me; but here my understanding of how at least one system I looked at works.

You arrive at your destination, set the parking brake, leave the transmission in neutral. When you turn the key off, then engine stays running. Step out of the car, close the door, and press the button on the remote to turn the engine off. This way the system knows that it's safe to start the car when you push the start button. The safety feature is the door. If you open the door, it disarms the system and the start button won't work (in case someone opens the door and puts the transmission in gear). Now this could present its own set of challenges on a Wranger... like not having doors. So you would have to figure out how to work around that safely.

I've thought about putting one in my Jeep, but I don't know if it's worth the hassle. If I had an auto, I'd definately do it.

jasonwrangler 11-16-2010 12:41 PM

whats the problem with start it, go inside and drink coffee, wait 5 min and go out?

DKDKGUS 11-16-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonwrangler
whats the problem with start it, go inside and drink coffee, wait 5 min and go out?

In smaller towns it isn't much of a problem. In some larger cities 2 minutes is long enough for some cranked out evil doer to steal your vehicle. I lived in an aprtment complex a few years back that had 6 cars stolen while they sat warming up. First one didn't lock the doors. The others had doors locked. Heck, one of them had doors locked and the Club on the wheel. That one went bye-bye too!

jasonwrangler 11-16-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DKDKGUS (Post 879320)
In smaller towns it isn't much of a problem. In some larger cities 2 minutes is long enough for some cranked out evil doer to steal your vehicle. I lived in an aprtment complex a few years back that had 6 cars stolen while they sat warming up. First one didn't lock the doors. The others had doors locked. Heck, one of them had doors locked and the Club on the wheel. That one went bye-bye too!

time for an AK47.

Phrankoff 11-16-2010 01:01 PM

Not only that but say you live in a safe area... if you live on the 4th floor it is not practical to walk down start, go up drink coffee then go back down.

Not only that but the whole idea is to start it while out anywhere where you may not have the choice to keep it running and keeping an eye on it.

Hardermods 11-16-2010 01:01 PM

I had a buddy put one on his 5 spd car himself, over rid the clutch switch. Then got his oil changed at goofy lube and when they pulled it out they parked it and left it in 1st, later when they grabbed his keys they hit the button and the car went through the dr pepper machine.

shrubeck 11-16-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonwrangler (Post 879339)
time for an AK47.

That sounds more appealing than just getting in a warm car. Start it, go inside, sit by the open window with a sniper rifle and a cup of coffee... Now we're getting somewhere.

530ktm 11-16-2010 01:57 PM

If you have a standard transmission, this sounds like an open invitation to much larger problems as stated above by Hardermods. Bad idea in my opinion.

rockunlimited2 11-16-2010 02:22 PM

Awsome. My buddy had a DIY remote start in his 99 sport, he was out on a date at a nice steak place and watched out the window as his jeep drove itself up a grass hill and headed for traffic on top of the hill. He had removed the saftey clutch sensor so the remote start would work on his 5 speed. he must have forgot and left it in gear and sat on the remote. Good thing the hill was too steep and it killed the motor on the way up (After it ran down some bushes in from of the steak place) or this could have been a sad story, not just a funny one. something to think about.

YHSublime 11-16-2010 03:42 PM

I've found in my TJ... and I don't know if this is all TJ's, BUT I was trying to take a key off my chain while my engine was running, and to my surprise, it slipped right out, engine still running. My friend says that his dad had a CJ that used to do that, so maybe all Wranglers are like this? Start the car, take your keys, lock the door, that's what I do!

AFBcon06 11-16-2010 05:53 PM

I am looking to get a viper auto start in my 04 sahara. Its automatic so I hope it doesnt cause any problems.

530ktm 11-16-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YHSublime (Post 879734)
I've found in my TJ... and I don't know if this is all TJ's, BUT I was trying to take a key off my chain while my engine was running, and to my surprise, it slipped right out, engine still running. My friend says that his dad had a CJ that used to do that, so maybe all Wranglers are like this? Start the car, take your keys, lock the door, that's what I do!

I think something may be broken in the tumbler mechanism as they should not do that. No biggy though, kind of handy I think.

YHSublime 11-16-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 530ktm (Post 879973)
I think something may be broken in the tumbler mechanism as they should not do that. No biggy though, kind of handy I think.

Agreed. No complaints here.

s3nt3nc3d 11-16-2010 10:23 PM

I wouldn't think it'd be too difficult to design a switch that is triggered when the transmission is in neutral...allowing the remote start to ONLY engage while in neutral.

ie. Use a normally open switch on one of the wires that closes in the neutral position ... when placed in any other gear, it opens that switch preventing the remote start from engaging.

I'm not suggesting one of you folks design your own switch as a work-around...I'm saying, it doesn't sound like it'd be too difficult for an engineer to design one for their product so it'll SAFELY work on various manual transmission vehicles.

4xplore 11-16-2010 11:17 PM

I'm a certified 12v installer with 7 years of experience behind all types of remote start systems and installations on manual transmissions. I've only ever driven manual transmissions (except my Dakota) and they all had remote start systems. If you pick a reliable remote start from a reputable supplier (Viper, Code Alarm, Ungo) then you should have no problem getting it installed on your manual Jeep. Don't get it installed at a future shop/best buy/etc type store. Go to a dedicated 12v installation centre and make sure they are trained by government programs, not store training. That will guarantee that you have it installed properly. Most systems have a safety makes you do a string of actions before turning the key off (car out of gear, feet off all pedals, pull E brake, press required key on remote, turn key to off, exit vehicle and system will arm when the door is closed). Opening the door or skipping a step will cancel the setup. If you concerned about the door being off, I wouldn't think you'd drive doorless in the winter, and if so, why do you need a remote start if it's warm enough for doors off?

Do yourself a favor and get a combo remote start/alarm. You'll thank yourself when someone tries to get in and steal our car while it's running.

If you have future questions, don't hesitate to PM me.

rrich 11-16-2010 11:20 PM

Heard about a customer's neighbor that had one on his pick-up - manual transmission.
He was showing off at a party - hit the button, it started and hit a new Corvette!! Lots of expensive damage, and lots of ribbing to add insult to it.

Just go downstairs a little earlier to let it warm up. Take your AK with you.

Hostile JEEP T.J 11-17-2010 01:07 PM

Like 4explore said if you find a competent person that is highly trained NOT just store trained then they can install you one right with the safety features so accidents like that don't happen! The reason why so many ppl stopped installing them in the first place on manual trannys is because ppl would be parked in a lot of a store and as they walked out would hit the start on the remote and forgot to leave it out of gear and then the vehicles would jump forward hitting the car in front of them, and in a few occasions there were ppl or kids walking in between the vehicles when this happened causing some deaths!! I had one put on my race street truck back in the day it was a VIPER ESP 500, my truck was my pride and joy so I had the works put in it with the alarm and remote start. It was a 5spd too and down here by me I had CarToys do it and there great guys, there government trained in certified classes not just store trained! Good luck and like most things on a jeep this is NOT one accessory I'd go cheap on, get it done right!!


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