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xXTheGhost45Xx 11-16-2010 07:15 PM

Tire Help PLEASE!
 
hey everybody, my names Ethan and im new to the forum! really glad to be here and im going to get some pictures posted of the jeep soon! I drive a 1994 YJ :)

i need some opinions and reviews on tires tread life offroad and on road performance
if you guys have experience with these 2 tires let me know, how do they work out for you. this jeep will be a daily driver and a weekend offroader.

the two tires i want to compare are

Hercules Trail Diggers
Hercules Tire & Rubber Company
and
Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ
Mickey Thompson Performance Tires & Wheels

im planing on running 31's as entry level then move up to 33's in time
cause its harder to go down in tire size if you know what i mean :p
but i might just run 33's right off the bat.

any opinions, personal experiences, tread life, offroad-onroad performance
anything you guys can offer will be GREAT!

yjforlife 11-16-2010 09:38 PM

i have a better set of tires i know u will love are better on the road an on mud then super swampers

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-16-2010 09:40 PM

what are they called ? :)

Still open to hear everyone elses opinions!
greatly appreciated everybody!

LaterJim 11-17-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXTheGhost45Xx (Post 880041)
hey everybody, my names Ethan and im new to the forum! really glad to be here and im going to get some pictures posted of the jeep soon! I drive a 1994 YJ :)

i need some opinions and reviews on tires tread life offroad and on road performance
if you guys have experience with these 2 tires let me know, how do they work out for you. this jeep will be a daily driver and a weekend offroader.

the two tires i want to compare are

Hercules Trail Diggers
Hercules Tire & Rubber Company
and
Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ
Mickey Thompson Performance Tires & Wheels

im planing on running 31's as entry level then move up to 33's in time
cause its harder to go down in tire size if you know what i mean :p
but i might just run 33's right off the bat.

any opinions, personal experiences, tread life, offroad-onroad performance
anything you guys can offer will be GREAT!

I ride 33' MT baja mtz's currently and I really like them. The rig isn't my daily driver, but I think they are great on the road. Virtually no noise, unlike super swampers. I also like them on the trails as well. If you want to see them in action, search "Jimmywhodey" on youtube. I am pretty green when it comes to offroading, so the vids are the greatest, but you can see what i do with the tires at least.

Fweaky 11-17-2010 07:43 AM

I've owned a lot of tires and its hard to beat the BFG KM2 for wear on the highway and all around offroad. Its just not as goog in snow. Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ tires are good tires but they are heavy and the don't wear as well on a heavy vehicle. I haven't tried the Hercules tires. This site has reviews for lots of tires.
Mud Tire Reviews, Offroad Tires, 4x4 Mud Tire Reviews - Offroaders.com

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 08:10 AM

so hows it work the heavier the tire the faster it wears?

im leaning towards the MTZ's but the hercules are cheaper and seem to get great reviews. need more opinions!

i like the bfg km2's but the dont make them in a 31x10.50
the mtz's seem great on road and offroad
but the hercules fall into the same category :banghead:
i need something that can with stand at least a bit of snow and from the reviews i've read it seems like they both perform half decent in snow.
and im open to other tire reccomendations as well, thanks guys! (:

LaterJim 11-17-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fweaky (Post 880786)
I've owned a lot of tires and its hard to beat the BFG KM2 for wear on the highway and all around offroad. Its just not as goog in snow. Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ tires are good tires but they are heavy and the don't wear as well on a heavy vehicle. I haven't tried the Hercules tires. This site has reviews for lots of tires.
Mud Tire Reviews, Offroad Tires, 4x4 Mud Tire Reviews - Offroaders.com

You are right about the weight. I pay special attention to that as I rotate the tires faster than one would need to, as well as running chalk across the tire to make sure they are inflated properly. I hear alot of people talk about the BFGs...

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 09:14 AM

Ok so less weight equals slower wear?
And yeah I plan on rotating religiously :P

The bfgs used to be and option but I'm counting them out on account they aren't producing 31's.

When I get home I'm going to check out your videos Jim!

Need more thoughts guys!!!

kilz42 11-17-2010 09:53 AM

On a side note you should consider Kumho Road Venture M/T's. I'm running them on my 93 YJ now and they are awesome. They balance well and are virtually noiseless on the road because of the stepped center lug pattern. They eat thru road water and kill offroad. I took them out and was running some technical stuff with a group and I was going where alot of them couldn't. I've have them on for about 2k miles now and there are essentially no signs of wear. The only downside of the tire is that it is directional. So the rotation gets a bit tricky - but I believe the benefits out weigh that. And if your rig is your current DD its a perfect choice. Just my 2 cents. (oh and they look HOTTT)

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 10:09 AM

I was just looking at the Kumhos
What's there performance like in mud?
Noise doesn't bug me I actually kinda like it (:
Any more info is greatly appreciated, my main terrain is highway trail mud and snow.

kilz42 11-17-2010 10:20 AM

Mud is this tire's first love. Seriously man it cuts thru it and the lugs clean out nicely. Sometimes have to rev is it depending on how greasey it is. It will dig thru some deep stuff for sure. Sidewall protection is good and it wears really well on the street. I can't recommend the tire enough. I got mine online for $183/tire which is tough to beat (unless you know someone :) )

BiGMac89 11-17-2010 10:31 AM

I have Cooper discoverer stt 31s on my 92 yj 4.0 and I love them! They are very aggressive and they look great! Offroad is probably one of the best tires I've ever had or seen. I hardly ever use 4wd anymore. They were $800 installed. So def check these out

kilz42 11-17-2010 10:33 AM

Ahhh the Discoverer STT....Loved that tire but I couldn't afford it. It was a toss up between the Cooper and Kumho for me but price won the battle. I'm quite happy with my Kumho's tho :)

BiGMac89 11-17-2010 10:35 AM

Really? I've found them online from 160 a tire but I got them from a local guy here in BFE South Carolina

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 10:41 AM

I just looked at the stt as well what's their on road performance like?

kilz42 11-17-2010 10:46 AM

Serious? $160 per? What tire size you running? I got 33x12.50 15's on mine.

mjc0760 11-17-2010 11:02 AM

To add even more confusion for you... I'm looking at the Falken Wildpeak which were recommended by my mechanic. They come in 32 x 11.5 x 15 which will be way better than the stock 30" Goodyear Wranglers I have now. They got good reviews on-road (quiet) and off-road (except mud... like most AT-type tires)

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 12:40 PM

I'm not really looking for an AT I want an MT most aren't harsh on roads, just noise and some lug slap, or so im lead to believe, I wouldn't mind hearing more about those Cooper stt tires and the Kumhos but I would still appreciate info on the tires that started this thread but at this point I'm open to any tires you guys have in mind and can give me first hand experience on thanks again soo much guys.

Ethan.

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 02:59 PM

Just priced the Kumhos in a 32x1150R15 looking at 1133.80 out the door :|

The Hercules trail diggers were 961.45 out the door.

Help!!!! (:
More opinions on tires!!!
Prices sizes tread life performance need some serious help here guys.

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 03:16 PM

Cooper stt runs 1224 out the door. In a 32x11.50R15
Also on my yj with a 1 inch body lift and a 1 inch shackle lift would I fit 32's ?

jgwalt 11-17-2010 04:12 PM

I have the kumho mt 834 (the older style similar to BFG) and they are great in the snow, mud, dry trails, and highway. However, they hydroplane easily so I have to keep the speed down in the rain (one should anyway...). I have about 30K on them and they are about half worn. Maybe consider kumho like Kilz said.
From the reputations of Mickey Thompson and Hercules, I think you are comparing two really good tires. Price would be my tipping point.

Fweaky 11-17-2010 04:53 PM

Weight doesn't mean faster wear. Compound determines wear. Some tires have a softer compound which enhances grip.

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 04:56 PM

Ok I think I'm beginning to post alot here but here's what I'm looking at for the Hercules trail diggers. If I run a 265/75R16=32x10.50R16 I can get them for 1056.73 out the door.
And if I go with a 31x10.50R15 i can get them for 961.45 out the door
I would love to run the 32's but I need to know If I run a 2 inch lift do you think they'll fit? What else would I need to do with the 2in lift? Drop pitman arm? Brake line upgrades? Regear? Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

BiGMac89 11-17-2010 04:56 PM

Check treadepot.com discoverer stt 31s for 140 a piece

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 05:09 PM

Hey thanks bigmac checked it out but they don't ship to Canada (N) oh well
Thanks though! Really appreciated.

kilz42 11-17-2010 09:17 PM

If you put 32's on it would be wise to regear. But that brings up a whole lot of other issues. Your yj most likely has a d35 rear axle which can't handle the offroad stress very well with tires that size. A super 35 or a d44 axle are in order for those size tires. The front d30 is fine for them. Most people don't look at all the costs for just popping on larger tires. Doing it right requires building it from the ground up. If you decide to regear go with a 4.56 or a 4.88. I personally run a d44, 4.56 gears and a detroit locker. Tough setup offroad but good manners on road.

Rastaman69 11-17-2010 09:55 PM

I just purchased a set of Dunlop Radial Mud Rover 32X11.5 15s for my 95 YJ (daily driver, weekend mudder) and they are the best tire I have ever ran on the Jeep so far. I've had BFG, Goodyear, Dick Cepek, and Cooper so have tried quite a few. They are the quietest MTs EVER, they really steady the Jeep on the highway, corner great, stand up to the wet roads like a champ, and simply devour mud like no other. My only complaint is that on wet roads w/my 355 rear end I can break them loose at will which is only ok when I WANT to do that. I only have 1K miles and 1 good mudding run on this set so can't really speak to treadlife. Best place (in my opinion) to purchase is Tirerack.com. No one locally or major websites (Quadratec, Morrison 4X4, & 4WD Parts) could beat their price AND they were delivered in 2 days. Out the door price (including shipping) was $700 for 4 tires delivered to my front door. And there's a mail in rebate so will be even cheaper. There are also tons of reviews you can sift through and you can even side-by-side compare tire specs of the ones you like. As if you don't have enough opinions to read, there's mine. Good luck and let us know what you get.

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-17-2010 10:46 PM

Alright right now it's 11:39 pm where km at and the Hercules really have me leaning that way, they're fairly cheap and they seem like a really good tire on and offroad, at least that's what some guys are telling me and reading in reviews, but I'm also looking into the Cepek crushers, pro comp xtreme mt, and on tire I'm extremely interested in and that I have been keeping a close eye on is the pitbull growler, I also found a place that sells 31" km2s so I'm calling first thing in the morning for a price but on all the tires I mentioned I can get for all about the same price.

And about those dunlop tires, I'm in Canada so they might hit me hard with shipping charges and then ontop of that customs :|
Oh mam trying to decide on tires is so much harder then I thought. If anyone has pictures also please post! And sizes your running would be great to! Thanks guys!!! (:

Rastaman69 11-18-2010 07:47 AM

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Here's my Jeep w/Dunlop Radial Mud Rover 32X11.5 R15. You mentioned that it was hard making a decision but don't sweat it man. They're an expensive investment and you want the best that works for you. It took me a month of combing thru websites, online reviews, this forum, and visiting local tire shops before I decided on mine, and it was totally worth it. Have fun!

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Forgot to mention that I have a 3.5" lift...

xXTheGhost45Xx 11-18-2010 10:21 AM

Haha a month that's a decent amount of time lol I've been trying to decide since the middle of June :(
I have till february though so I got sometime, were just fixing the jeep up and doing the upgrades over the winter. So I have a bit of time to decide I'm just hoping to find more opinions.


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