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J_Westy 11-30-2010 03:58 PM

Thinkin' about a winch -- feedback please
 
So I've been thinking about adding a winch to the Jeep and would appreciate some advice/feedback, pros/cons.

I don't anticipate doing any rock crawling, but definitely some trail / overland use a few times a year.

I like this concept using the stock bumper... kind of goes along with my "stealth" mods so far, plus it won't break the bank. I believe this owner used some spacers to get the fairlead out in front of the bumper cover for an extra clean install.

http://my.project-jk.com/data/503/medium/jeep_0029.jpg


From what I've read, you use a universal TJ mount slotted to fit on top of the frame rails behind the bumper, mount your winch upside-down and slot your bumper cover accordingly.


Mount example - $30 from Harbor Freight:

Universal Channel Winch Mount

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...image_2261.jpg


Winch example
- $297 Mile-maker SEC8 (8000 lb):

SEC8; Electric Winch-RH3

http://www.4wheelparts.com/aux_incl/...rtNo=MIL&w=380



Fairlead Cover - $19 (to keep the Michigan winter crud out a little bit):

Mile Marker Roller Fairlead Cover - Winch Fairlead Cover - Winch Accessories - Winches and Winch Accessories - by 4 Wheel Parts-RH3

http://www.4wheelparts.com/aux_incl/...rtNo=MIL&w=380

J_Westy 12-02-2010 07:38 AM

Gotta' be some wisdom out there?

ttt

jonwild 12-02-2010 07:49 AM

Yeah, someone help! I want to do the same thing (although I would go for a new bumper)...

h2otoo 12-02-2010 07:57 AM

I kept the stock bumper. Weight and $$$ were part of the decision to go that route, although not the only factors. I do like the "in the bumper" look, but happy with what I got. I got the MMarker PEC 8 with a Rough Country mount. Got it this time last year (is that an oxymoron?). Happy with what I got and what I spent.

Bob :wavey:

rics1997 12-02-2010 08:32 AM

If your worried about the weight and still want to be close to stock, I checked with my dealer and stiffer coil springs were actually pretty cheap. I have 15's under mine and they quoted the 18's for $53 each and $85 to put both of them in. I am planning on getting them the first of the year. Getting a new winch and XHD bumper put on tomorrow. I can't wait.

Sierra8 12-03-2010 01:27 AM

As far as a decent winch for a good price I've really liked my smittybuilt xrc8. Got it for 300 bucks including shipping and its worked or great. Doesn't seem cheap or under engineered.

Macnerd 12-03-2010 01:39 AM

Thanks for posting this. I need to do some searching in the other threads. My 11 JKU Sahara doesn't have a bumper that looks like its ready for a winch. Do I need to replace the whole thing?

h2otoo 12-03-2010 02:17 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Mac, no you do not have to change the bumper. Several companies make mounting plates for the stock one.

Attachment 31362

Bob:wavey:

Macnerd 12-03-2010 03:37 AM

Thanks Bob! Great setup!!

daggo66 12-03-2010 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rics1997 (Post 904263)
If your worried about the weight and still want to be close to stock, I checked with my dealer and stiffer coil springs were actually pretty cheap. I have 15's under mine and they quoted the 18's for $53 each and $85 to put both of them in. I am planning on getting them the first of the year. Getting a new winch and XHD bumper put on tomorrow. I can't wait.

You can can actually get 19's which are the tallest/stiffest and put them in yourself under an hour if you have a good set of jackstands.

castorj29 12-03-2010 08:02 AM

Go Warn............cost more,but you wont be dissapointed

Wally Meyers 12-03-2010 08:15 AM

:wavey: My son used to married to a winch, or maybe it was a wench.

mortisdraco 12-03-2010 08:18 AM

Bob, which winch is that and did you need to do anything other then add a mounting plate to the existing stock bumper?

thanks,
Brad

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2otoo (Post 905620)
Mac, no you do not have to change the bumper. Several companies make mounting plates for the stock one.

Attachment 31362

Bob:wavey:


h2otoo 12-03-2010 02:07 PM

Brad, it is a Mile Marker PEC 8. I was going to go with Ramsey, but the savings on the MM was too good to pass up. The mounting plate is from Rough Country. Others make ones that work with the stock bumper also. I did lose the tow hooks and got D rings in place. Here is the link to their site, you can check out the install instructions:

Jeep JK Winch Mount

Bob:wavey:

J_Westy 12-03-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2otoo (Post 906238)
Brad, it is a Mile Marker PEC 8. I was going to go with Ramsey, but the savings on the MM was too good to pass up. The mounting plate is from Rough Country. Others make ones that work with the stock bumper also. I did lose the tow hooks and got D rings in place. Here is the link to their site, you can check out the install instructions:

Jeep JK Winch Mount

Bob:wavey:

Which is better -- the PEC8 (Permanent magnet) or the SEC8 (Series wound)? They're pretty close in price, so which one?

h2otoo 12-03-2010 03:47 PM

I will let someone who knows more than me chime in on that one. I went with the PEC after reading what reviews I could find on it. Had it just over a year now. Use it mostly to skid logs from the back yard to where I cut them up. (Although its first use was to get me out of a snow bank/drainage ditch). No complaints yet with the winch. (Don't ask about the wench :))

Bob:wavey:

Jervboy 04-07-2012 06:02 AM

Here's mine.

lindolyn13 05-31-2012 09:27 PM

Has anyone done a comparision on winches and what is the best for the money? I have searched the forums and have found nothing really helpful. I am not creating a rock crawler yet would like to do decent trails with some decent equipment on my jeep

HAFICON 05-31-2012 09:40 PM

Im just going to go with the Ruggid Ridge 10,500lb it is 399.00 But you can not beat a Warn. I had a 9500HSi that was moved from Jeep to Jeep then Tacoma then back to a Jeep again over about 12 Years. I did rebuild the gear box one time, it never let me down but for the cash IDK, because over the 12 years or so I might of used it 10 times. So I am going to go a cheaper route and get what I am sure is a decent winch, I just cant see spending that much money for something I will hopefully never use that much.

snochick 05-31-2012 10:04 PM

In all honesty, for the average Jeeper, you don't use your winch all that often. I had a MileMarker on my old TJ and it did just fine. I actually made it work pretty hard a few times b/c my brother was mudding in the Florida Swamps with a bit too much liquid courage in his Dodge Pickup.

Want a funny picture in your head, imagine a TJ trying to winch out a full sized truck buried to the frame with an angry alligator about 6 feet from the Jeep so I wasn't willing to get out more than once to throw the cable to his dumb butt.

I'm not spending a lot of money on winches this time around either. I just don't use it often enough to justify it. If I was doing something more extreme I might have a different opinion, but they are daily driver's so we do have to use some common sense when playing.

Duffyc04 05-31-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castorj29
Go Warn............cost more,but you wont be dissapointed

X2. I have the warn m8000-s and it's fantastic, and the syn line keeps weight down..,I have it mounted on the warn elite bumper...it's a very high quality stuff.

Sinz 05-31-2012 11:18 PM

I just bought my first winch ever and I got the Warn 9.5 CTI-S because you hear nothing but great reviews on them, reliability & high quality, sure I spent a lot for it but it's the only winch that will last me for a very long time and later down the road when I get a newer Jeep I will be switching it over there...Do it once & do it right!

norski74 06-01-2012 08:19 AM

I used the rough country mounting system. You take the bumper off remove the stock tow hooks, put on there threaded replacements. The back mounts bolt in on the passenger side. The drivers side on a 2012 has a air can sensor mount that has to be removed, a 4 inch grinder an a cut off wheel works well. I adapted it to there winch mount. A couple tack welds will do for holding it on. Bring the bolts close to being tight. Put the bumper back on tightening the bumper bolts . Put the plate on and bolt it to the mount. Tighten the rear mounts. Then your ready for what ever winch you want. The only winch that will not mount direct is a 8274 warn. I made a mounting plate for mine. Cut the vertical part of there plate off an welded my mount to there's. Hope this helps ken

Jervboy 06-01-2012 09:10 AM

Winches. Check this thread out.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f123/en...ml#post2424686


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