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Bodis22 12-27-2010 01:23 PM

Herculiner vs Duplicolor vs Line X and Longevity
 
I have done a search and read plenty about the Herculiner inside the tub and seen a few pictures. I am going to do the inside of my jeep with something. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how well it holds up when it was a DIY vs shop sprayed by LineX. I love LineX and have had it done in the past to my trucks. I like the sound of the Duplicolor Bed Armor as well. I am wondering if it is worth the money saved to do it myself or pony up the 500 bills for the shop to LineX it. Has anyone had experiences with both or any problems when they applied their own with scratching, tearing, anything? Thanks

Ibuildembig 12-27-2010 01:42 PM

Herky is fine, but its really rough and shows dirt like theres no tomorrow. I haven't messed with duplicolor, but most of their products are pretty much subpar imo, and I have only seen 2 trucks line-xd but they faded and popped off in less than a year. The best stuff I have used in the last few years is Raptor liner. Its tough, goes on thick, and maintains its shine from day one.

Bodis22 12-27-2010 01:50 PM

My Dmax had the bed done with LineX and it looked like the day I put it on 3 yrs before when I traded her. It had the "Extra" (Kevlar) in it though. The shop I use does good work, but I am just not sure as to whether or not I should try to save money on something like this. I have no problem paying good money for things, but like to save when I can ya know. I would not think I would have to worry about fading on my interior though, so I would prolly stay with the normal LineX. I am very capable of doing a good job myself on something like this, just not real sure of quality of product and whatnot. By the way I bought my jeep without any carpet, it still has nice paint inside, I just dont like the look and has a couple of carpet smudge residue marks or something.

Ibuildembig 12-27-2010 01:52 PM

Man I really dunno what to tell ya there....I like carpet in my jeeps (which makes me and like one other guy on here) lol

Twt_74 12-27-2010 04:43 PM

So your the other one?

Jeepin9910 12-27-2010 04:47 PM

I used the duplicolor and am very happy with it. Very tough. The only complaint I had was that it dried out in my applicator pan but I read and it's water based so I added a little water and tada all better. Plus no pot life and no need to add UV protectors or anything sounded awesome to me. If I had it to do again I would definitely use it again. By the way I did my entire tub plus 3 coats plus my fender flares and the "rocker guard" strip and I still have over half of a gallon left.

07XMan2Door 12-27-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepin9910 (Post 948564)
I used the duplicolor and am very happy with it. Very tough. The only complaint I had was that it dried out in my applicator pan but I read and it's water based so I added a little water and tada all better. Plus no pot life and no need to add UV protectors or anything sounded awesome to me. If I had it to do again I would definitely use it again. By the way I did my entire tub plus 3 coats plus my fender flares and the "rocker guard" strip and I still have over half of a gallon left.

Good to know. So iDuplicolor comes in a gallon can?? I have bought it in an aresol & thought it was a bit weak. Brushing or rolling it on would be much better hugh?

Thanks

Barrie 12-27-2010 05:11 PM

I used Raptor on mine, very happy with it.

Jeepin9910 12-27-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 07XMan2Door

Good to know. So iDuplicolor comes in a gallon can?? I have bought it in an aresol & thought it was a bit weak. Brushing or rolling it on would be much better hugh?

Thanks

Yes the Bed Armor does. It's a kit that comes with a brush and roller. It's quite a bit different compound than the spray can.

07XMan2Door 12-27-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepin9910 (Post 948623)
Yes the Bed Armor does. It's a kit that comes with a brush and roller. It's quite a bit different compound than the spray can.

Good to know. I know since I go topless all summer it's only a matter of time when I get her drenched. The carpet will come out on that day for sure.

Thanks again, I'm going to get a gallon of this Duplicolor Bed Armor.

InfernoGirl 12-27-2010 06:05 PM

x2 on the Raptor liner.... It's not so scratchy, and it looks fantastic, price is good too.. :)

Bodis22 12-27-2010 06:12 PM

All these replies from first hand experiences and no PICS, comon...

Tarby 12-27-2010 06:21 PM

We do Raptor at the shop I work and by far, it is the best stuff we have put down on trucks, jeeps, etc. I did my hard top on one plow jeep in it. You can test spray and find how much texture you want to have or not. You can make it glossy or dull...lot of different variations with it.

Here is my hard top. Been painted for 3 years and no fade or peel and I had it done in a semi gloss look....[IMG]http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...Springs071.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...Springs072.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...Springs074.jpg[/IMG]
Don't mind the dirty look of it...it was in storage all summer and this was taking it out to get it ready to hook up the plow for winter, so that is just dust all over the top itself.

psycho 12-27-2010 07:27 PM

heres mine..... any reason to post pics :D not sure of the brand, but im sure it wasnt a name brand. local co. did it for $300 and they stripped out the interior too.

InfernoGirl 12-27-2010 07:49 PM

Here's my Raptor right before the seats got put back in.... http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...dlinedrita.jpg

MikeMTJ 12-27-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig
Man I really dunno what to tell ya there....I like carpet in my jeeps (which makes me and like one other guy on here) lol

Haha, I like carpet too. Easy, and cheap to replace. Only time I don't like carpet is deer season. Blood doesn't match the color of my carpet.

chief100psu 12-27-2010 08:01 PM

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/gett...tor-33615.html

Bodis22 12-27-2010 08:18 PM

Thanks for the pics folks, any negative things to say?

Bodis22 12-27-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chief100psu (Post 948995)

With that spray nozzle that is supplied is it easy to hit what you want and not scatter or overspray something unwanted. Reason I ask is because a rolling on application would be safer, but I do like the looks and idea of the U-pol, let alone the price. Is painters tape the choice of many as well for taping off surfaces? Thanks everyone

erickpl 12-28-2010 08:00 AM

Linex - expensive, durable
Herc - cheaper, ROUGH, holds dirt, feels like sandpaper.
Duplicolor - Never had a good experience with their products

I went with Monstaliner and rolled it on. Has a good texture, wipes up EASILY. UV protected so fade will be minimal. TOUGH stuff. Around $100 or so if you follow their specials. That will include a Chassis Saver paint that you can apply first to rusty areas to stop the rust (similar to POR-15).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/IMG_0262.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/IMG_0239.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/IMG_0249.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...r/IMG_0263.jpg

Just as it is with professional application, the detail is in the PREP work. Prepare the surfaces well, have them clean of debris, residues, dirt, dust after scuffing and it will come out just fine.

Ibuildembig 12-28-2010 08:22 AM

You rolled that monstaliner? That looks like you sprayed it! Awesome job

Bodis22 12-28-2010 08:29 AM

Man, I really appreciate all the info and pics. I would really like to know if the sprayed application of U-Pol is easy to spray on aim and not be oversprayed and whatnot. I will definately doing this when the weather is warmer if I can be disciplined enough to wait, may just have to do it in my shop with a fire goin...Spend the $$$ on some bumpers that I save here. Thanks alot fellas

Ansx97 12-28-2010 09:00 AM

To USER PSYCHO, what kind of lining did you end up doing in your jeep? From the pics it looks really good.

Thanks

Elwood 12-28-2010 06:26 PM

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Man I really dunno what to tell ya there....I like carpet in my jeeps (which makes me and like one other guy on here) lol
I like carpet as well. Keeps the cabin warmer in the winter and quieter as well!

I do like to take out my carpet in the summer. It makes sand clean up so much easier! I am leaning real hard towards Upol. It looks real nice!

Tarby 12-28-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodis22 (Post 949942)
Man, I really appreciate all the info and pics. I would really like to know if the sprayed application of U-Pol is easy to spray on aim and not be oversprayed and whatnot. I will definately doing this when the weather is warmer if I can be disciplined enough to wait, may just have to do it in my shop with a fire goin...Spend the $$$ on some bumpers that I save here. Thanks alot fellas

I don't spray at our shop, I'm a body tech/prep and finishing tech. Our painter is a friend of mine and he sprays the U-POL. I help him with prep and masking, and I will say, we take extra caution by masking anything that is not being shot to make sure no over spray comes into contact with painted surfaces NOT to be sprayed. We mask everything with Sharkskin (plastic film masking). The gun works fine and we only get one spray out of the gun. We also let it cure in the bake booth then an additional 24 hours after it cools, just to be safe. Never had a problem. We have also clear coated it on body exterior pieces (bumpers, fender flares, hard tops) and has held up really well.
Boss at the shop just had his bumpers and rockers done and cleared and they have held up through the winter without a chip so far. He gets alot of comments on how good and durable it looks.

BigEZ 12-29-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarby (Post 951075)
We have also clear coated it on body exterior pieces (bumpers, fender flares, hard tops) and has held up really well.
Boss at the shop just had his bumpers and rockers done and cleared and they have held up through the winter without a chip so far. He gets alot of comments on how good and durable it looks.

good to know. I am going to do the lower (bottom) half of my tub exterior (and complete tub interior) in some type of liner material and all the experience is duly noted. Another guy on this forum loves his Rhinoliner and I am surprised not to see it mentioned here.

How much UPOL Raptor does it take? one kit comes w/ 4 bottles; how many bottles total for the interior tub on a TJ? looks like helluva deal. Between this and POR-15ing my frame, I already got Memorial Day weekend all planned out.

erickpl 12-29-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig (Post 949930)
You rolled that monstaliner? That looks like you sprayed it! Awesome job

Yep, rolling it on is the recommended way. You can spray it, but it takes more prep. Besides rolling requires less masking than doing a spray. It's been a wonderful mod for the TJ...

nick50471 12-29-2010 12:37 PM

I used the Hurc-U-Liner and love it. It is very rough and holds onto everything. You can make it as rough or as smooth as you like. The grit settles to the bottom of the can and you must mix before applying. The less you mix the grit the less agressive your finish will be. We did my nephews Ranger truck and didn't mix at all. It ended up looking just like IG's Raptor liner.

flint 01-02-2011 02:08 PM

another vote for monstiliner... great product

G54 01-02-2011 02:26 PM

Here's a few pics of the Herc I rolled/brushed on last spring. So far so good. The rough texture doesn't bother me (it's what I wanted actually) nor does the dirt - just hose it out..eh. $80 As was said - they all work better if you take your time with the prep work.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...addy/herc5.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...addy/herc1.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...addy/herc2.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...addy/herc7.jpg

Then I did my powder coated peeling rocker guards and they are still holding up without rust. Also a strip on the hood.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...ddy/herc13.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...ddy/herc12.jpg

The main thing is - now I pull the plugs and with the Bestop seatcovers on I really don't worry about rain anymore. Oh and the Dirty Mudder Column Cover helps too. (free plug) PM Inferno Girl today to get yours!


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