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Lariatryder 12-31-2010 03:38 PM

Starter help please.
 
Jeep wouldn't start this morning so I had the starter tested and the auto parts place said it was bad. Bought a new one had them test it and it worked. I was installing it with the battery connected and I got a few sparks. I disconnected the battery and kept on going. I turn the key on and nothing happens, no lights nothing. I try again and the lights come on push the clutch try to crank it the I hear clicking and then no more lights. What did I mess up. I have a new starter solenoid on it's way but idk if that's the problem. Thanks in advance.

hannahuffster 12-31-2010 04:02 PM

Sounds like a bad ground when you go to start your jeep. May sound stupid but double check your battery terminals and motor ground wire...

sevenservices 12-31-2010 04:28 PM

yup, classic symptom of loose/dirty battery terminal connections. Probably was the start of your issues. They need to be cleaned with baking soda and water at least every six months. as well they should be pulled off, sanded or wire brushed to ruff up the lead and put back on once per year. Nice and tight as well...

chensley 12-31-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hannahuffster (Post 956514)
Sounds like a bad ground when you go to start your jeep. May sound stupid but double check your battery terminals and motor ground wire...

X2

I would also think something fried out when your battery "sparked"

hannahuffster 12-31-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chensley (Post 956550)
X2

I would also think something fried out when your battery "sparked"

Maybe, maybe not - I have, in the past forgot to unhook the battery before removing a starter and actually welded the starter hot wire to the frame of a Chevy truck (we all learn from our mistakes). But it caused no noticeable problems for me. But hey, this is a JEEP! Sometimes changing the valve caps can somehow turn into a weeks worth of troubleshooting :confused:

Lariatryder 12-31-2010 04:59 PM

The battery cables are hooked up right and a brand new. I will try cleaning the connections to the starter tomorrow.

scott howard 12-31-2010 07:14 PM

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hannahuffster 12-31-2010 09:04 PM

215$?!? Sounds like a rip-off for a starter to me when a lifetime at the parts store is like 45$...

LaterJim 12-31-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lariatryder
Jeep wouldn't start this morning so I had the starter tested and the auto parts place said it was bad. Bought a new one had them test it and it worked. I was installing it with the battery connected and I got a few sparks. I disconnected the battery and kept on going. I turn the key on and nothing happens, no lights nothing. I try again and the lights come on push the clutch try to crank it the I hear clicking and then no more lights. What did I mess up. I have a new starter solenoid on it's way but idk if that's the problem. Thanks in advance.

Should indicate an issue with the battery....if when u turn the key and no sound, that usually is the starter if the lights work...check the voltage on the battery

sevenservices 12-31-2010 11:17 PM

that to... usually a bad starter will dim your lights, not kill all of the power. Thats a bad connection somewhere. If your terminals are good, check the other end.

I totally forgot until now! Check this,
I went deep into a hole with my left front and the whole jeep slammed pretty hard. I had the exact problem you do, I knew my cables where clean and tight and the battery was good but "snap" I would loose everything when hitting the key to start. I followed back the + wire from the battery and was able to easily move the bottom connection side to side on the bolt. I tightened up that nut and it was like a whole new starting system!

falatude 01-01-2011 07:31 AM

Definitely a bad connection somewhere. I have seen the factory crimp-on terminals go bad once you start messing with them. Check the connections at your battery first, then go to the connections at your starter. Make sure the wires are still firmly connected/crimped at the starter. Especially the red #10awg wire at the starter.

gennybro 01-01-2011 08:13 AM

In my opinion,any one that purchases that starter for 215 dollars,needs their head examined.

Lariatryder 01-01-2011 11:12 AM

I'm going to replace all of the wires tomorrow. Does anybody know what the relays next to the battery are for and where to find them?

hannahuffster 01-01-2011 12:28 PM

In the power distrubtion center? Auto shut-down, horn, fuel pump, starter, foglights, a/c (if you got the last two) off the top of my head I think that is it...

Lariatryder 01-01-2011 12:41 PM

Would they have anything to do with why its not starting?

hannahuffster 01-01-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lariatryder (Post 957807)
Would they have anything to do with why its not starting?

I would say no. They could have something to do with a jeep not starting yes, but in your case I would say no.

Lariatryder 01-03-2011 01:08 PM

I replaced all of the battery cable including the one from the solenoid to the starter and she fired right up


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