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rics1997 01-01-2011 12:42 AM

What is the best tire?
I have tried to search the forums but there really is no thread on different tires when going to a 33 or 35 that works well with the Wrangler. I did a lot of research only to find myself further away from what I want. Do I go with a A/T with better tread wear or a M/T with a better Mud traction. I really like the Cooper STT but keep getting conflicting reviews on them. People either love them or hate them. Surprisingly the Firestone M/T gets great reviews on the net but haven't heard anyone that actually owns them. The Offroad shop pushes Nitro Grapplers but I have seen just so so reviews on them. Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2 gets great review but doen't look aggressive enough IMO. Well still leaning towards the Coopers at the moment but like to get feedback because since my Jeep is a Daily Driver I rather not spend a lot for a tire that will wear out quickly on pavement.

rics1997 01-01-2011 12:43 AM

Tire Racks consumer reviews in order (They don't sell Cooper so no reviews)

A/T top 12

1) Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61
2) Firestone Destination A/T
3) Michelin LTX A/T 2
4) Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
5) Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
6) Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor
7) Pirelli Scorpion ATR
8) General Grabber AT 2
9) Dick Cepek Radial F-C II
10) Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S
11) Bridgestone Dueler A/T D695
12) BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO

M/T top 7

1) BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2
2) Firestone Destination M/T
3) Kumho Road Venture MT KL71
4) BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM
5) Goodyear Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar
6) Dunlop Radial Mud Rover
7) Yokohama Geolandar M/T Plus

jcf 01-01-2011 12:50 AM

I have had the BFG mud terrains & the Goodyear MT/R with Kevlar. The second option is the best tire hands down, I drove on the slippery snowy roads today & it hangs on very well, it's good on rocks & in mud/sand. The first choice does not do well in snow or ice, it is however quiet good in the other conditions

Redjeepmormon 01-01-2011 01:16 AM

What about the Goodyear duratracs?

rics1997 01-01-2011 01:38 AM

They didn't make the list. i think it has to do with price. When I was at Sears today looking at the Coopers the Duratracs were mentioned but the sale person said that for the price you could go ahead and get the Kevlar. He basically said he thought they were way over priced but if they were priced in the same line as say the Coopers they would be a great choice.

jcf 01-01-2011 01:42 AM

Get the price on Kevlars off Discount tire direct on here, they will give you a great price & discounts & free ship. Also if you do get those tires make sure they are (C) load rating

Twitch Boy 01-01-2011 04:34 AM

I have Firestone Destination A/T's on my JK. If you're looking for good all around performance, you can't go wrong with them, especially for the price. Only complaint is they leave a little to be desired on ice, but all non-studded tires do that I guess.

Hilldweller 01-01-2011 06:15 AM

Most of the bad reviews for the STTs are from people who ran them on heavier vehicles and they suffered premature wear. The Toyota 100s and 80s are famous for destroying tires early; their weight also has them rating the KM2s higher than I ever would.
When it comes to tires and Jeeps, apples aren't apples all the time --- even comparing between what a 4-banger YJ runs and a JKU. The weight, wheelbase, etc all skews the results.
Cooper also changed the rubber compound a few years ago so you have to throw out all reviews for tires built before the TEK3 compound.

While shopping, also bear in mind that Cooper makes the Cepek, Jones, & Thompson branded boutique tires. They make a few others for store brands as well.

Now, I've seen those Dueller Revos hook-up and carry 2WD 4Runners up snotty hills. But I've also seen them clog with mud and send people sideways...

If you're going to avoid mud as much as humanly possible, I think the MTR/Kevlars are the best all-around tire for JKs. They stick like velcro in wet highway conditions, grab all kinds of rocks, and are hard to kill.
They just don't like the southeast's mud and clog-up.

I've tried many ATs through the years and like them for trucks that don't get in the woods so often. But they've failed me in the Jeep and mud is the one place that I object to getting out to pull winch line.

rics1997 01-03-2011 04:47 PM

Well, Sears put the Goodyear MT/R w/Kevlar on sale today for $233. So right now they are cheaper then the Coppers so I believe I going with the Goodyear's tomorrow. 285/70/17

Robbish87 01-03-2011 05:30 PM

Good choice, I recently put on the new MT/R's and love them so far, good ride not noisy and good traction in the few inches of snow I've seen around here so far.

jeepnpr 01-03-2011 07:13 PM

One that is NOT flat!
Seriously tho, there really is no best or perfect tire as what may work best for me may not work at all for you. If you go with a tire specifecally for where you wheel (loose soil, mud, water) then that tire may not work if you someplace else (rock, steep climbs, ruts).
So no matter what you pick there is always going to be some compromise, especially if it is your DD as you have to handle both off & on road conditions.
I myself like the BFG Mud Terrains or Goodyear Wranglers.

XJ Knight 01-03-2011 07:20 PM

There is no one best tire.. As I just disused on in another thread here when talking with Barrie about his Nokians.. There's got to be compromise..

From everything I know from a painful amount of hours researching tires.. The Cooper STT might be the best overall tire. Does nothing great and does nothing bad..

BlackMountain 01-04-2011 09:04 AM

random question, but does anyone know if the 2010 moutains came with BFG KM's or BFG KM2's?

MikeMTJ 01-04-2011 09:50 AM

KM2s are hands down the best tire I've owned.

SaharaCon 01-04-2011 01:59 PM

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about nitto mud grapplers? Lookin to get a set soon...

jcf 01-04-2011 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by MikeMYJ (Post 964326)
KM2s are hands down the best tire I've owned.

x about 100!

daedalus 01-04-2011 02:44 PM

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the KM2s do not come in a size to fit a stock '10 Rubi, is that correct? So for those of you running the KM2s, do you have aftermarket wheels?

rics1997 01-04-2011 02:47 PM

The one thing that caused me not to go with the KM2 was the snow rating which was poor at best. They have a wonderful mud rating that puts them near the top While the MT/R Kevlars got a 1/2 star less rating in the mud then the KM2's did they got a star more rating in snow. And were I live, I have a nasty little north facing hill that when snow hits it it takes forever for it to melt and need at least a little snow traction for that uphill climb.

I think the couple comments above said it best. No one tire fits everyone best. You have to take in your conditions as to what you will be driving on and fit the best tire to your needs. Hopefully I made the right choice with the Goodyear MT/R Kevlar's because they are bought and paid for now. No going back at this point. Hopefully they will be here before the weekend.

XJ Knight 01-04-2011 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by daedalus (Post 964826)
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the KM2s do not come in a size to fit a stock '10 Rubi, is that correct? So for those of you running the KM2s, do you have aftermarket wheels?

What size is on a 10 stock JK Rubi?

daedalus 01-04-2011 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by xj knight (Post 964838)
what size is on a 10 stock jk rubi?


XJ Knight 01-04-2011 03:35 PM

OK.. Doesn't come in that size but you can get em in 245/75 or 255/80

BestopTeam@Bestop 01-04-2011 04:03 PM

All tires are a compromise. Better off road vs worse on highway. Good mileage vs no traction. Good cornering vs soft sidewall flex.

And the problem with online reviews is that you never know which compromise was important to the reviewer. Someone who hates KM2s might not like the soft tread wearing out. Someone who loves them might live in Moab and hardly ever put their Jeep on pavement.

Personally, I don't know that I'd put up with some of the more aggressive tires on a daily driver. The noise alone can be rough.

From the description of the KM2:

better road manners and less noise than you'd expect in an off-road tire.
Better than you would expect. That's like the description of a blind date.

Grog 01-04-2011 08:48 PM

My jeep is pretty new and pretty stock still. My jeep club did a run on New Years, and I went along riding shotgun. I checked out all the rigs (and no two had the same set of tires), and how they performed on the trails. I should say I am buying tires very soon too.

Anyway, the rigs broke down into two groups. Those with all terrains, and those with more aggressive tires. For the normal trails, everyone had no problem. When it came to the somewhat crazy stuff, the all terrains worked harder. For the really crazy stuff, the all terrains struggled. Some of the rigs with the ATs did not try the really crazy stuff.

I was planning on ATs before I started the day, but after I ended up ordering a more aggressive tread. How crazy a trail you want to tackle is the place to start.

daggo66 01-04-2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by XJ Knight (Post 964929)
OK.. Doesn't come in that size but you can get em in 245/75 or 255/80

You can get the KM in 255/75/17 however.

Work4Mud 01-04-2011 09:47 PM

BFG Mud Terrain KM2's. I have drivin them in just about everything and love them. Rocks, great. Mud, amazing. Snow, awesome. Pavement, somewhat quiet and not very rough.

Jkw 01-05-2011 09:20 AM

Im about to get toyo open country mt hiw do yall feel about those

XJ Knight 01-05-2011 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Jkw (Post 966812)
Im about to get toyo open country mt hiw do yall feel about those

Solid overall tire.. Very Similar to the Cooper STT

Crasher 01-05-2011 09:38 AM

I had the MTRs w/k on my JKU for about 7000 miles and replaced them with KM2s. I'll take the km2s over the MTRs any day. Better traction offroad and they roll easier down the road. Increased mpg by 10% and I can feel the difference. fewer downshifts and it goes back into OD sooner. I don't know how they would be on icy slick roads, but don't care, as I will never be on them.

dougncrew 01-05-2011 02:10 PM

I am loving these. I have put over 30000 on them and they have not let me down.

cverstij 01-05-2011 02:45 PM

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Fierce Attitude M/T's are what I have. They aren't too noisy (I have a soft top and there was a little increase in volume from the stockers). I like they so far!

Fierce Tires | Attitude M/T

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