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jiminmanjr 01-05-2011 08:12 AM

Parking a Stick Shift
 
This is probably a question that has been answered on here, but my search didn't turn up any results that matched my question.

I have a 2003 Wrangler five-speed. It's awesome.

When I park - at home, work, out running around - I put the Jeep in first gear and turn it off. I never use the emergency brake, except if I'm on a hill, or if I leave the Jeep running for a minute or two.

Is this wrong?

The reason I'm asking is that lately I've noticed something. When I go out to leave work, and get in the Jeep to start it, I put my foot on the clutch and the brake. The Jeep starts fine, but I've noticed the brake doesn't always go down until the Jeep is running. I am just noticing this, so I don't think this has been the norm. I park on flat ground 95% of the time, anywhere I go.

Is there any reason to change what I am doing? I've been doing it this way for five years, and with previous stick shifts I owned as well. It's just that my Jeep will be paid off within a few months (my first paid-off car since age 17), and I want to keep it going as long as possible.

Thanks for the info!!

URascal 01-05-2011 08:15 AM

Emergency brake? Is that the thingy on the side of the other thingy? You're supposed to pull it up when you park? I always wondered what that thing was for. What'll they think of next.

Peepers 01-05-2011 08:25 AM

I put it in reverse when I park it. E-brake only on hill or when idiling. I parked in first one time and I wasn't paying attention. went to back out of the driveway and drove right into my truck. Thank god for old vehicles with metal bumpers.

JDGROVER 01-05-2011 08:28 AM

if you are talking about the regular brake ( not emergency) then it is because the breaks are vacum assisted and it is harder to push the break with out the vehicle running because the vacume is not helping you.

ParaCAD 01-05-2011 08:30 AM

I use only the ebrake when parking.

I'll park it in gear, if i'm on a hill, along with the ebrake (which is habit anyway)

Ageless Stranger 01-05-2011 08:40 AM

I do the same thing that you do. I only use my e-brake for parking when I'm not on flat ground. You have power brakes so they will go down when you start up.

jiminmanjr 01-05-2011 08:41 AM

OK... thanks for the info. For some reason I just noticed the brake not going down until the Jeep started. I didn't know if it was me, the Jeep, etc.

cork1958 01-05-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JDGROVER (Post 966721)
if you are talking about the regular brake ( not emergency) then it is because the breaks are vacum assisted and it is harder to push the break with out the vehicle running because the vacume is not helping you.

This one is EXACTLY correct.

I ALWAYS use the emergency brake when parking. My driveway is flat at the very top (closest to house) for about 10 feet, but then goes down hill from there.

I've always been told if you don't use the emergency brake it will eventually fail when you need it most. That's not the exact wording my brother has always told me about it, but close enough.

Should add I ALWAYS use emergency brake in manual transmissions and not automatics. Of course, I hate automatics anyway, so don't drive one very often.

Atthehop 01-05-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cork1958 (Post 966741)
This one is EXACTLY correct.

I ALWAYS use the emergency brake when parking. My driveway is flat at the very top (closest to house) for about 10 feet, but then goes down hill from there.

I've always been told if you don't use the emergency brake it will eventually fail when you need it most. That's not the exact wording my brother has always told me about it, but close enough.

Should add I ALWAYS use emergency brake in manual transmissions and not automatics. Of course, I hate automatics anyway, so don't drive one very often.

I agree with statement 2. I have found that if you never use it the cable will eventually sieze and when you need it the most it will not work. I only use mine on a grade but that is quite often.

TexasT 01-05-2011 09:01 AM

I always use my parking/ebrake too. I put tranny in 1st and set the parking brake. I've been driving manual transmissions for many many years and cannot think of a valid argument for not using it. I have also witnessed jeeps slowly rolling away after parked because they were not all the way in gear or got knocked out of gear as they left the vehicle. I am also an insurance agent and the argument that you never use the ebrake would show irresponsibility in a court.

530ktm 01-05-2011 09:09 AM

For the most part I use mine all the time. It is really a parking brake that is supposed to be used when parking so nothing dumb can happen and have your vehicle roll away. It is not that difficult to reach down and give it a tug and be safe. If for any reason the Jeep were to pop out of gear when parked, you would not be happy if the parking brake was not engaged.

s3nt3nc3d 01-05-2011 09:10 AM

My driveway is on a slight hill so I always park in 1st with the e-brake set... if I'm leaving the engine running, I will also set the e-brake. Sometimes what seems flat to you isn't truly flat...I've watched my buddy forget to set the parking brake on a tractor because it was parked on flat ground and moments later we were chasing the $25,000+ tractor down a hill where it ended up in the creek...luckily it didn't tip and we were able to drive it back out. I also watched a friend stop by my buddy's auto shop...left truck running in neutral and hopped out to talk for a moment, which was quickly followed up by, "Mitch! Your truck's heading for the road!!!" Truck was rolling straight out of the parking lot and into a busy 4 lane road the shop sits on. They managed to catch it just as it entered the road and before it caused any accidents.

I like to follow the mindset, "Better safe than sorry."

BigEZ 01-05-2011 09:21 AM

as stated, the hard pedal push in the original post is due to POWER brakes that need POWER to function as one would expect.

you should use your e-brake at least a few times a week to keep it from locking up, but don't depend on it alone for parking. I learned that a long time ago in my S10 when I woke up to find my truck resting in the bushes at the bottom of the sloped parking lot. The e-brake in my TJ recently started losing grip; where I live now has a sloped driveway and I pulled in, set the e-brake (so I could leave it running prior to pulling into the garage) and jumped out to get the mail...only when I turned around the jeep was rolling slowly back down the driveway. Slow enough so that I was able to jump back in, but still... E-brakes fail eventually. Don't depend on them.

oldskool71 01-05-2011 10:55 AM

Always use the "Parking Brake"...that is what it was designed for....along the way it has been referred to as the Emergency Brake...and can be utilized in that case where you encounter some type of braking problem...but it is a Parking Brake...:D

Ibuildembig 01-05-2011 10:57 AM

Manual tranny = always park in reverse and use parking brake

Beer30 01-05-2011 11:05 AM

I always park in first with the parking brake set, level ground or not.

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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig (Post 967029)
Manual tranny = always park in reverse and use parking brake

Is there an advantage to parking in reverse instead of first? Just curious.

Ibuildembig 01-05-2011 11:10 AM

Well on the older vehicles if you left it in first it could still roll forward when going downhill....reverse wouldn't let it go either way because its on a different shaft in the tranny.

Ray - San Jose 01-05-2011 11:11 AM

I always park in first with the parking brake on. I'm also smart enough to check what gear I'm in before letting my foot off the clutch :D

Krigster 01-05-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by URascal
Emergency brake? Is that the thingy on the side of the other thingy? You're supposed to pull it up when you park? I always wondered what that thing was for. What'll they think of next.

Ha!!! Yeah that is impressive! I always thought the handle was a turning assist on low traction environments! A uni-cutting brake.

GMVETTETECH 01-05-2011 11:44 AM

You should always use your emergency brake and leave it in gear. When the emergency brake is pulled while moving backwards you can actually adjust the shoes to the drum clearnce automatically. This can give you a harder pedal. Shoes that are improperly adjusted or have to much clearance to the drum will have a low pedal and will wear out your front brakes more rapidly.
Always use your ebrake on a stick any car

GMVETTETECH 01-05-2011 11:49 AM

Reverse is the best gear to leave it in because the gears are cut straighter and more durable all other gears are thinner with a more helical cut for reduced gear noise . Reverse is the strongest . The idea behind putting it in gear is that you are locking the input shaft with the engine and that is what locks the wheels.

Simplegreenvr6 01-05-2011 12:01 PM

Out of habit I always set the parking brake. Even in the GF's GC, I will pull it up a few clicks when we park. I set the parking brake at a stop light too if the light takes a while and I don't wanna hold in the clutch. Like someone else said, rather safe and sorry.

jasonwrangler 01-05-2011 12:17 PM

just stuff it in gear and youre golden.

jiminmanjr 01-05-2011 01:17 PM

Wow... a lot of different opinions on this.
So, the consensus is "better to be safe than sorry," and use the emergency brake.

jasonwrangler 01-05-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jiminmanjr (Post 967308)
Wow... a lot of different opinions on this.
So, the consensus is "better to be safe than sorry," and use the emergency brake.

supposed to use both, but handbrakes are useless on wranglers anyway.

Thesnufalufagus 01-05-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonwrangler

supposed to use both, but handbrakes are useless on wranglers anyway.

The handbrake saved me from running through a house after my right side wheel cylinder exploded.

knnphillips 01-05-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplegreenvr6
Out of habit I always set the parking brake. Even in the GF's GC, I will pull it up a few clicks when we park. I set the parking brake at a stop light too if the light takes a while and I don't wanna hold in the clutch. Like someone else said, rather safe and sorry.

How does a parking brake help with holding the clutch?

jasonwrangler 01-05-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by knnphillips (Post 967480)
How does a parking brake help with holding the clutch?

no idea. maybe he meant holding the brakes.

mtbikbob 01-05-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonwrangler (Post 967375)
supposed to use both, but handbrakes are useless on wranglers anyway.

If your hand brake is not working then your brakes need adjusting. Not your hand brake. Your hand brake is a good indicator if your brakes need adjustment, so that would be a good reason to use it when parking.

ScorpioScotty 01-05-2011 03:31 PM

I always use the parking brake.... keeps the son from running over things when he starts the jeep..... 16 and forgets to push in the clutch first... Kids!

Someone will probably make a comment that it shouldn't turn over without pushing in the clutch..... not sure if that was an option on the 92.... but it doesn't work if it was.


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