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MR53LFD35TRUCT 01-12-2011 08:03 AM

Added Weight
 
Will adding weight to the back of my 1998 TJ help with my traction on the snowy roads of Northeast Ohio? I've noticed that my driving style has a lot to do with it, but I'm almost 18 and this is my first winter with my Jeep. I love it to death and probably wont drive much of anything else in life, but my rear traction (especially around turns) sucks.

KawiTJ 01-12-2011 08:06 AM

four wheel drive? weight helps anything...just like a pick up in the snow, the back ends all over

Atthehop 01-12-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MR53LFD35TRUCT (Post 983897)
Will adding weight to the back of my 1998 TJ help with my traction on the snowy roads of Northeast Ohio? I've noticed that my driving style has a lot to do with it, but I'm almost 18 and this is my first winter with my Jeep. I love it to death and probably wont drive much of anything else in life, but my rear traction (especially around turns) sucks.

I am sure it will help but you should slow down when driving in snow. 4wheel drive gives you a false sense of security and nothing is going to keep it on the road if you are going too fast. You cannot imagine how many 4x4's I see in ditches on the interstates every snow storm.

InfernoGirl 01-12-2011 11:44 AM

^^^^^ This.

Tires and speed..... Also keep in mind no matter how easy you can GO in 4x4, stopping will be the problem, regardless....

Jerry Bransford 01-12-2011 12:02 PM

In addition to the good advice given above, make sure to have your tires fully aired up. The resulting smaller footprint will help the tires dig down more easily through the snow on paved streets to the better traction of the street below below the snow.

Ageless Stranger 01-12-2011 01:10 PM

I've put weight in 2x4 trucks before, but never in 4x4s. I'm interested in seeing what the opinions are.

Wyominer 01-12-2011 01:27 PM

Weight in the back of your Jeep may help, slowing down will help more than anything. I'm sure you've read on here about driving like there is an egg on the gas petal, drive like that. If you're driving on icy roads, really, really back off on the gas!

nick50471 01-12-2011 01:53 PM

Common sense while driving in less than perfect conditions will help the most.

Adding weight to any vehicle will help with traction on a slippery road surface. This added weight comes at a cost. Digging down as stated above by Jerry is good as long as the road surface below is not ice. I do not drive my Wrangler in the winter here because it can't hold a candle to my 2000 Silverado. My Jeep is taller and has bigger tires but can't hang with my heavy pick-up. The truck on ice is amazing and the Jeep is like trying to drive a rollerskate. The long wheelbase of the truck is exactly what is needed to bust large deep snow drifts. I read on WF how lots of people love their Jeeps in the snow, well I'll keep my family safe in a warm, heavy, long 4x4 truck.

monkeee2002 01-12-2011 02:56 PM

weight always helps on ice. Keep in mind you have a VERY short wheelbase, if (when) you break traction, it can get sideways pretty quick!

Black98 01-13-2011 02:04 PM

more weight is bad because is makes it harder to move, turn, and stop in snow. Just driver more careful and remeber the jeep rear kicks out easy. More weight is only useful when your in 2wheel drive vehicle can't get traction from a stop.

sevenservices 01-13-2011 02:23 PM

Take it from me in MI... The absolute best thing you can do to remain safe is to leave yourself extra time when driving in the snow. A lot of time... Seriously, it will make everything else ok and less stressful. Even if it normally takes you 10 minutes to get somewhere, leave yourself 30 minutes when you walk out the door.

Im 34 now, been driving since 15 and I will tell you the absolute best thing for traction in snow is newer tires. Its like using the same razor for 2 months then replacing it fresh. Quite a difference with some good grip when you need it.

s3nt3nc3d 01-13-2011 02:52 PM

I think the argument with adding weight making it harder to stop is a minor detail...depending on the amount of weight you add of course. I'm sure it DOES come into play, but if you add 300 lbs to your rear axle, it's like driving your Jeep with a heavy passenger in it. The amount of time it takes to slow your Jeep down with and without a passenger is negligible at best, IMO.

Now if you add an extra 1,000 lbs to it...that's another story...might wanna hang on for the ride when you decide to stop.

New tires will make a world of difference...also, experience driving in the snow will help. Last year was my first winter in my Jeep...I was all over the place when going around turns, even spun my Jeep around at one point. This year, I've learned how fast my Jeep can handle the turns and I slow down appropriately before I start the turn...the only time I spun out was when I was being an idiot in the driveway at work and punched it around a corner to see if I could pull back out of it (and of course, I couldn't...lol)

yjkid95 01-13-2011 03:05 PM

Or just do as I do. Although it is not recommended. Be quick on countersteering nail the gas and have fun. :flipoff: Oh and never use 4 wheel drive unless stuck or cant get up a hill :flipoff:

Take my advice at your own risk though. I have ended up in ditchs due to my young and fun stupidity.

s3nt3nc3d 01-13-2011 04:43 PM

lol...i use 4wd any time I have enough slippage for the wheels, including torrential rain (this will only work in super heavy rain--wet roads/light-steady rains are NOT enough to give you the necessary slippage for 4wd) where I'm constantly hydroplaning while out stormchasing. I prefer to play it safe...I've wrecked enough that I don't enjoy paying to have my vehicles fixed anymore.

MR53LFD35TRUCT 01-13-2011 05:18 PM

Thanks guys! It's obvious that I don't take it fast around turns, especially on the way home from school on the highway. But the problem I had was my back end whipping around on me. After I got through a turn I was slowing down on a straightaway. I think I may have hit some black ice and I did a 90 Degree turn. I compensated by turning my wheel into the slide so I wouldn't go into the other lane. I do have a new set of tires in the garage, but I wanted to get the use out of the ones I bought the Jeep with. so I might wait until next fall to put the new ones on. I'm learning quick. Any opinions on when the best time to put the tires on this year? since I'm already halfway through winter.

computeruser 01-14-2011 12:05 AM

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monkeee2002 01-14-2011 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MR53LFD35TRUCT (Post 987360)
Thanks guys! It's obvious that I don't take it fast around turns, especially on the way home from school on the highway. But the problem I had was my back end whipping around on me. After I got through a turn I was slowing down on a straightaway. I think I may have hit some black ice and I did a 90 Degree turn. I compensated by turning my wheel into the slide so I wouldn't go into the other lane. I do have a new set of tires in the garage, but I wanted to get the use out of the ones I bought the Jeep with. so I might wait until next fall to put the new ones on. I'm learning quick. Any opinions on when the best time to put the tires on this year? since I'm already halfway through winter.

You could always run 2 sets of tires (one for winter) and use your current tires for summertime.

I put on my new tires right before the snow hit, my nearly used-up A/T's are chillin' in the garage, waiting for warmer weather :)
Next fall, when I put these tires back on, it'll be like having new tires for winter, all over again!

redjeeper 01-14-2011 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Atthehop (Post 983926)
I am sure it will help but you should slow down when driving in snow. 4wheel drive gives you a false sense of security and nothing is going to keep it on the road if you are going too fast. You cannot imagine how many 4x4's I see in ditches on the interstates every snow storm.

i was just going to say the same thing. great minds think alike. :punk:

98tj25l 01-14-2011 03:23 PM

I always throw in 1-2 60# tubes of sand into the back of my Jeep. I figure it might help it might not, but if I get stuck I can always spread the sand on the ground to gain more traction...

MR53LFD35TRUCT 01-14-2011 04:07 PM

@computeruser Thanx for the link to the thread I was looking for. I'm still new to the forum and I need to find a way to navigate better. Is there a searchbar or a way to search tags? I feel like an idiot for not finding that thread earlier.

pokey 01-14-2011 04:18 PM

^ don't feel like an idiot. The search function on this site leaves a lot to be desired. I'll leave it at that :(

BANGER 01-14-2011 04:48 PM

First you have no driving style as You have almost no driving experience ? Second if you use some weight use sand-Softener Salt or the like never anything hard . A cement block can and will kill you in an accident .

Banger

MR53LFD35TRUCT 01-15-2011 10:13 AM

@Banger Agreed on the first part. What if I just get a fill up each time it's crappy out? Do you think the gas weight would be enough to hold it down b/c it's on the very back? It sounds kinda stupid, but I always need gas anyway.


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