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fatcrack13 01-14-2011 04:42 PM

Lockers
 
I am new to this sight and i have a 4 inch lift, 1992 Jeep Wrangler YJ and I have to admit it is fun but the posi slip is terrible when offroading on rough trails and im not the wealthiest person and was trying to find a good cheap locker to put in both sometime soon but i want to beable to disengage the lockers for daily driving. Any opinions ideas?

Ageless Stranger 01-14-2011 04:48 PM

Nothing that's cheap. Selectable locker and cheap don't go in the same sentence. I plan on buying ARBs for the front and rear axles of my rig. (850 apiece, plus installation, plus a compressor) You could get Detroit trutrac limited slip carriers for less than half that amount. It's not a locker but it's miles better than the factory LSD and it has very good street manners.

Welcome to WF. :wavey:

fatcrack13 01-14-2011 05:00 PM

I like that sentence " Selectable locker and cheap don't go in the same sentence" but thanks for the response how bad would automatic all the time lockers be for daily driving? And how about Ected Electricaly lockers or a cheaper Power Trax no slip traction ?

fatcrack13 01-19-2011 06:32 PM

Detroit E-Z locker or Powertrax lock Right Locker? for rear dana 35?

Ageless Stranger 01-19-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fatcrack13 (Post 989850)
I like that sentence " Selectable locker and cheap don't go in the same sentence" but thanks for the response how bad would automatic all the time lockers be for daily driving? And how about Ected Electricaly lockers or a cheaper Power Trax no slip traction ?

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Originally Posted by fatcrack13 (Post 1001150)
Detroit E-Z locker or Powertrax lock Right Locker? for rear dana 35?

The Ected is apparently not nearly as strong as other selectable lockers on the market. (ARB, OX) At least that's what I hear from someone I trust implicitly. People who have auto lockers in the rear generally say that you get used to driving with it in there, and after you alter your driving habits a little the locker is hardly noticable.

BUT. If you get a lot of ice and/or snow in the winter you should think really hard before putting an auto locker in the rear of your rig. It will not be pleasant on slick roads.

Having said all of that, locking a stock D35 is a big no no. It isn't strong enough to be locked, unless you pony up the cash for a Superior Super 35 Kit, which will come with your choice of a detroit, ARB, or (Ected I think) locker.

turdhurdler 01-19-2011 07:37 PM

I have an Aussie (lunchbox) locker in my front axle. On the road, I cannot even tell it is there. With the 4 wheel drive engaged, it is like night and day on the trails. I can go over or thru most anything without having to need momentium to get me there. I do run only 31s currently and would not want to run a locker with large tires on the stock axles.

Jeff

4Jeepn 01-19-2011 07:44 PM

stock dana 35 and lockers don't mix well keep that mind too.

fatcrack13 01-19-2011 08:28 PM

Okay well what about on dana 30 front, the a cheaper locker like aussie or lock right or detroit e-z locker in the front on the road in 2 wheel drive would i realized the lockers? or is it still a bad idea with the stock dana 30? which i have heard are stronger than the 35's keep in mind that i am running little 32's and 33 next tire change.

turdhurdler 01-19-2011 10:03 PM

I could not be happier with the Aussie in my stock D30. I have a friend who has an Aussie on his D30 in an XJ with 33s and has not had a problem at all either. He has been running that combo for going on 3 years. The only place that I am nervous about my auto locker is on an icy road while in 4wd. I am not sure how it will react in those conditions. If you drive in a lot of icy situations, I would recommend a selactable locker to be on the safe side. Hope this helps.

Jeff

Ageless Stranger 01-19-2011 10:08 PM

↑ Hit the nail on the head. An auto locker (like the Aussie) in the front is fine, and is completely transparent on the road as long as you're in two wheel drive.

4Jeepn 01-19-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fatcrack13 (Post 1001427)
Okay well what about on dana 30 front, the a cheaper locker like aussie or lock right or detroit e-z locker in the front on the road in 2 wheel drive would i realized the lockers? or is it still a bad idea with the stock dana 30? which i have heard are stronger than the 35's keep in mind that i am running little 32's and 33 next tire change.

You will not notice it in the front in 2wd 98% percent of the time. However in 4wd in if you drive in snow its not a fun event. Can make it very hard to steer on snow covered roads.

fatcrack13 01-30-2011 06:33 PM

What would be a good alternative for front axles on my yj jeep

Ageless Stranger 01-30-2011 06:40 PM

A good limited slip carrier like a Detroit TruTrack, or a selectable locker like the ARB or OX units. Selectable lockers are $$$ though.

89JEEPYJ 01-30-2011 06:46 PM

for the dana 30 your best CHEAPEst best would most likely be a spool. since the dana 30 has the slide thing on the passenger side you can get away with doing this on the street and then once you slide it over you will be completely locked in the front. Expect to blow the dana 30 up with any type of locker though

RednekYJ 01-30-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fatcrack13 (Post 1023878)
What would be a good alternative for front axles on my yj jeep

The d30 is actually a decent axle for moderate wheeling. With 33" tires it will take quite a bit of abuse. Some things can be upgraded for alot cheaper than replacing with a 44.

The Cherokee (XJ) and Wrangler (YJ) with the small 5-260X u-joints can be upgraded with the 1996 and up Cherokee (XJ) / Wrangler (YJ) shafts that use the 5-297 u-joint. 1996-1999 would be the most desirable Dana 30's because they use the larger 5-297 u-joints and a one-piece passenger side axle instead of the CAD two-piece axle.

After converting to a one-piece shaft, you should do a manual hub conversion so you can unlock the axle shafts in the event of an axle failure and to allow the vehicle better handling on the road if you have a locker in the axle.

89JEEPYJ 01-30-2011 07:36 PM

After converting to a one-piece shaft, you should do a manual hub conversion so you can unlock the axle shafts in the event of an axle failure and to allow the vehicle better handling on the road if you have a locker in the axle.[/QUOTE]
ya you get some locking hubs and a full spool and it will cost you 500-1000 in labor to have somoene install it

RednekYJ 01-30-2011 07:40 PM

Ya? Unless you find a spring under d44 with the same gear ratio it's going to cost a chunk of change to get that setup and installed. What would you suggest go in the front?

my1stnicejeep 01-30-2011 11:21 PM

Shameless plug...I have a used ARB for a Dana 35 non C-Clip axle for cheap.280$ shipped You need to supply the switch and pump.

A buddy was going up to 37s and we swapped an 8.8 in.Fits 3.73 and numerically higher ie 4.10s 4.56s etc PM if interested


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