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Hammerwalk 01-27-2011 08:16 PM

Skyjacker 4" Economy vs 4" Standard. Help?
 
I have been doing as much research as I can lately and reading as much as i can on the forum about lifts.

My goal... 4" lift to support 33s for my '02 Sahara. Will still be my daily driver, but with capabilities to have a great time off road at the OHV parks.

My dilemma... too damned many choices out there for a newb. Here is what i have boiled it down to so far.

Skyjacker 4" Economy Lift Kit with Hydro Shocks for 97-02 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

Skyjacker Standard 4" Lift Kit with Hydro Shocks for 97-02 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

What i dont get is the ~$600 price difference. I can see that the standard has quick discos and that the bump stops are not poly, but nothing else jumps out at me. Can someone explain why i would want to spend the extra cash? Home made quick discos can be done. But whats the deal with the "same hard material as rear bump stops"

Standard
Parts Included
Front and Rear Coils
Front and Rear Lower Control Arms
Front and Rear Bump Stops
Transfer Case Lowering Kit
Front and Rear Hydro Shocks
Front Sway Bar Disconnects
Rear Sway Bar Links
Drop Pitman Arm
Rear Track Bar Bracket
Installation Hardware

Economy
Differences from the Standard kit are:
-Front sway bar end links are non-disconnects
-Front bump stops are not poly (same hard material like rear bump stops)
-4 Hydro Shocks are Included in component box (shock boots included)
-Drop Pitman Arm also still Included
Parts Included
Front and Rear Coils
Front and Rear Lower Control Arms
Front and Rear Hydro Shocks
Front Bumpstops
Transfer Case Lowering Kit
Front and Rear Sway Bar End Links
Drop Pitman Arm
Rear Trackbar Bracket


Also, what else will i need? I think i read someone had done a 3.5" with .75" body lift, and they needed an SYE (sp?). I am about to get my first bonus soon, plus income tax returns, and looking to do this within the next 3 months or so, at least that is my goal.

Greatly appreciate the help y'all :dance:

AOR 01-29-2011 07:43 PM

Why not do this one? Zone Offroad 4" kit. Shipped for $756.44 with JKS2001 quicker disconnects, drop pitman arm, and Nitro shocks. Good luck on your decision and your build. What ever you get, I hope you enjoy your new stance and offroad performance.

Namaste,

Allen

ej_fireman 01-29-2011 08:24 PM

Go to streetsideauto.com I found the pallat skyjacker 4"lift for 460$ total free shipping I luv it .. It's the exact same 1 as the economy lift yet way cheaper

Hammerwalk 01-30-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOR (Post 1022239)
Why not do this one? Zone Offroad 4" kit. Shipped for $756.44 with JKS2001 quicker disconnects, drop pitman arm, and Nitro shocks. Good luck on your decision and your build. What ever you get, I hope you enjoy your new stance and offroad performance.

Namaste,

Allen

That looks like a pretty sweet deal there. I will check into it further.Thanks for the info. However, just one last question...

"A minimal transfer case drop is supplied to correct the driveline angle while maintaining as much ground clearance as possible."

Do you recommend installing SYE as well? Not trying to beat a dead horse here. I just see way to many conflicting opinions / facts on this subject. I have no problem getting one, but if i don't have to, then why would i spend the extra ~$400+ or so for the SYE, and new drive shafts

Fullsize4life 01-30-2011 05:53 PM

Do a sye. Transfer case drops bring the suck.

Hammerwalk 01-30-2011 06:21 PM

how do i verify my transfer case type for the SYE? Im seeing some state "with NP231 TC only" and others not saying anything.

ej_fireman 01-30-2011 06:57 PM

Well I have the 4" skyjacker with no sye just bracket for tcase and it works just as good.. But make sure to adjust it because at first my 4 low would not engage but just a minor adjustment I was good to go

Hammerwalk 01-30-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ej_fireman
Well I have the 4" skyjacker with no sye just bracket for tcase and it works just as good.. But make sure to adjust it because at first my 4 low would not engage but just a minor adjustment I was good to go

Adjust what, exactly?

ej_fireman 01-30-2011 10:10 PM

Well I think it's a bracket that's connected to the tcase handle... I had mine installed so I'm not real familiar with it or how to adjust it

AOR 01-31-2011 08:46 AM

The SYE kit is for the NP231 t/case. The NP231 has a slip yoke, which under more flex situations will allow the driveshaft to pop out. The NP241 (Rubicon t/case) has one from the factory and has a flange to bolt the driveshaft too. I would do the SYE kit and CV shaft, just to have vibration free driving and no issues with popping out under flex. Along with a cam plate kit (included) for the rear to adjust the pinion angle to insure no vibration and the ability to fine tune it.

I believe what ej_fireman is talking about is the t/case shifter linkage. Adjusting that so as to not have any binding during engagement of low range. The SYE and CV shaft will eliminate the need for the t/c drop. This link will help you to locate the tag.

Namaste,

Allen

rockhard98 02-03-2011 12:02 PM

Gonna recomed this only because it was I did. And i love it, on road and off road..
Skyjacker 6inch long arm rockready kit. Bad part is its a 2800 dollar lift.
Comes with everything u need, comes with a tranny drop which is a new sub frame also OS part of the lift, it where ur new arms will bolt up, also fixes ur pinon angles in one shot.
However a cv stile rear drive line and a slip yok eliminater kit is required.. this lift is rated at mild to exstream and is a rock crawling lift,
I drive my jeep every day and can't say enuff good stuff about it, handles great even on the pavement, and off road there ain't many places I can't go... it is kinda a pain to install and I did it my self. more time consuming then anything but it is all bolt on..

U may not wanna go this extream but once its done there's not much u can't do..
Learned a pong time ago , go big the first time because in the end your gonna want more..

Good luck on ur journey its a hard choice to make on how u want to set things up.

Just my two cents :) have heard peeps on other forums say stay away from zone lifts. However I have no Exp with them and know no one that does, in fact this site is the first I have ever heard of them...and I was raised working on and building 4x4's. Gotta say stick to the ones that r knowN, there known for a reason.

rockhard98 02-03-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ej_fireman (Post 1024472)
Well I think it's a bracket that's connected to the tcase handle... I had mine installed so I'm not real familiar with it or how to adjust it

There easy to adjust but you may have to drop ur skid plate to see it, just make sure to put a jack under the engine, the skid plate is also ur tranny mount..

Jerry Bransford 02-03-2011 12:26 PM

I only have time for a single comment, but one that is important... no matter which kit you buy, do not install the dropped Pitman arm included with both of those kits. Neither of the kits include a dropped upper track bar mount which is required for a dropped Pitman arm to work without causing bump steer.

As configured, you'd experience bump steer with either of those kits if the dropped Pitman arm was installed. Some suspension lift manufacturers have just not caught on to the fact that dropped Pitman arms are not usually required on TJ Wranglers like is commonly needed for earlier Jeeps like the CJ and Wrangler YJ. To install a dropped Pitman arm when it is not required is a guaranteed case of bump steer. :)

matt4133 09-07-2011 08:31 AM

Sorry to bring up an old post, so jerry what your saying is; you can install a 4" lift without using the dropped pitman arm included in the kit, and it would be more benefical than actually using the new pitman arm?

MrAutoPilot 04-24-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 1031676)
I only have time for a single comment, but one that is important... no matter which kit you buy, do not install the dropped Pitman arm included with both of those kits. Neither of the kits include a dropped upper track bar mount which is required for a dropped Pitman arm to work without causing bump steer.

As configured, you'd experience bump steer with either of those kits if the dropped Pitman arm was installed. Some suspension lift manufacturers have just not caught on to the fact that dropped Pitman arms are not usually required on TJ Wranglers like is commonly needed for earlier Jeeps like the CJ and Wrangler YJ. To install a dropped Pitman arm when it is not required is a guaranteed case of bump steer. :)

AMEN BROTHER! I removed the drop pitman arm that came with my kit, installed the original and re-corrected the toe-in on my TJ. Unbelievable the difference it made in bump steer. Thanks for the heads up!

GoodLife 04-24-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 1031676)
I only have time for a single comment, but one that is important... no matter which kit you buy, do not install the dropped Pitman arm included with both of those kits. Neither of the kits include a dropped upper track bar mount which is required for a dropped Pitman arm to work without causing bump steer.

As configured, you'd experience bump steer with either of those kits if the dropped Pitman arm was installed. Some suspension lift manufacturers have just not caught on to the fact that dropped Pitman arms are not usually required on TJ Wranglers like is commonly needed for earlier Jeeps like the CJ and Wrangler YJ. To install a dropped Pitman arm when it is not required is a guaranteed case of bump steer. :)

I wish I would have known that a few weeks ago.

homebrwd 04-25-2013 06:34 AM

Year and a half old bump, nice.

All Terrain JK 04-25-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homebrwd (Post 3680502)
Year and a half old bump, nice.

At least it shows research.:)


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