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SFBayArea 02-10-2011 12:54 AM

Help me choose roof rack for Unlimited hard top
 
Guys, I finally became owner of the Jeep :):), just picked up today my very own 2010 Unlimited Rubicon with hard top.
First thing I want to put on it is the roof rack.
I was wondering if anyone have an experience with these two racks:

Garvin Industries 44014 - Garvin Industries Sport Series Track Rack for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door with Hard Top - Quadratec
Garvin Industries 44064 - Garvin Industries Specialty Rack for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door with Hard Top - Quadratec

I like these racks because they are half the roof and don't obstruct the view if I decide to take front panels off of the top.
Of course I like the first one better for the price and it also looks cleaner, however, how much weight can one put on this rack considering that it is plastic top?
Thanks.

Mac2411 02-10-2011 06:23 AM

Personally, I avoid racks like the first one that is entirely supported by the roof structure. Although I've occassionally strapped stuff up there (like a fresh cut Xmas tree), the roof is not designed for bearing weight. I also don't like the idea of drilling through the roof because it just invites leaks. The second rack has supports on the body in back but the front appears to be supported by the roof as well, which again, is not a good thing in my opinion. Your conundrum is you want to be able to use the front freedom panels and have a roof rack and I don't know that there are necessarily any options out there making allowance for that and that are supported entirely off roof. If it was me I would look for other options for racks, and focus my attention on those with mounting points on the frame/body of the Jeep. Just my two cents.

JIMBOX 02-10-2011 08:14 AM

:whistling: MBRP JK/JKU RACK !!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/PICT0099.jpg

Any interest, I'll show more

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

shredd_guy 02-10-2011 09:08 AM

Yes I have a lot of interest. seems like a good way to go and the direction i have been leaning. i was nervous about drilling into the top but it look pretty simple. plus it looks like a great place tobe able to lift the top off with a hoist in the garage. how much will sucker hold? do you think i could carry a 80 lb 17 foot canou?

wlee3372 02-10-2011 09:14 AM

When I was considering cargo carriers, I wanted to carry bikes, canoe, or some misc. camping stuff. All in all - less than 100 pounds. I was really close to getting the body armor and other full body systems. Considering that those add so much to your Jeep, change your performance and looks of the Jeep. I think you must be very careful with those full body systems or your Jeep will look like a Cadillac with spinners. There are times when those racks really make your Jeep look "beefy" but they can also make your Jeep look "whimpy"!!!

I ended up going with the Yakima A1 rain gutter mounts with 58" cross bars. The main reason is that I can put it on / take it off within 5 minutes. No modification to the Jeep. I can get bike, ski, kayak, cargo boxes, etc to use with it - or just use it to carry stuff from Home Depot.

The one real eye opener when we first put the bars on was the NOISE!!! WOW, it is really loud. I could only imagine that full body system add a good deal of noise.

If you get a system - the further back the better.

I would go with your first selection if those were my only two choices. Yakima has their products in the 4wd magazine (and Quadratec). Check it out online: Yakima 8001616 - YAKIMA Hard Top Roof Track Rack for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

As you know - the difference is loading. Full body give you uncompromised strength for heavy load factor. Attaching to the hard top only gives you a bit of use and minimal load factor.

JIMBOX 02-10-2011 09:22 AM

:whistling: Let me show you this old pic (May 2009) on a sierra camp-

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/PICT0106.jpg

That was about 250 lbs

This just makes it easier to carry the fish boat !!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...Rubi/002-3.jpg

Here's a guy from the EAST that uses the rack for camping with a RTT and he still takes the "T" tops off !

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...y/DSCF0555.jpg

Quadratec and mbrp.com sells em, not cheap and installation isn't simple-

It takes a lot of time and though-2 people can doit, tough for one

NO NOISE !

I did mine alone and I have RACOR hoist in my garage, but I've only had the top off one time-it's not my favorite way to travel in the DESERT !!

Good luck and right now, they won't fit a 2011 JKU

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

shredd_guy 02-10-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlee3372 (Post 1046643)
When I was considering cargo carriers, I wanted to carry bikes, canoe, or some misc. camping stuff. All in all - less than 100 pounds. I was really close to getting the body armor and other full body systems. Considering that those add so much to your Jeep, change your performance and looks of the Jeep. I think you must be very careful with those full body systems or your Jeep will look like a Cadillac with spinners. There are times when those racks really make your Jeep look "beefy" but they can also make your Jeep look "whimpy"!!!

I ended up going with the Yakima A1 rain gutter mounts with 58" cross bars. The main reason is that I can put it on / take it off within 5 minutes. No modification to the Jeep. I can get bike, ski, kayak, cargo boxes, etc to use with it - or just use it to carry stuff from Home Depot.

The one real eye opener when we first put the bars on was the NOISE!!! WOW, it is really loud. I could only imagine that full body system add a good deal of noise.

If you get a system - the further back the better.

I would go with your first selection if those were my only two choices. Yakima has their products in the 4wd magazine (and Quadratec). Check it out online: Yakima 8001616 - YAKIMA Hard Top Roof Track Rack for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

As you know - the difference is loading. Full body give you uncompromised strength for heavy load factor. Attaching to the hard top only gives you a bit of use and minimal load factor.

WLEE
I can dig that too..although not as beefy looking its nice and simple and i could take the yakima stuff from my crumbling xj and transfer it to the new rig. so rain gutters? i didnt think there were rain gutters. does it require driling and adhesive?

btw try one of those air deflectors for the wind noise. i have a system like that on our munchin carrier and it howls like the banshy.

SFBayArea 02-10-2011 11:59 AM

Guys, I just called Garvin directly, they told me that both products have weight capacity of 200lb on and off road. I think its pretty decent.
I am really leaning towards first product for its price, clean look and ease of big piece of the roof remove as it is attached to it. However, I wonder if anyone have real experience with it?

SFBayArea 02-10-2011 09:58 PM

I can't believe nobody actually used this roof rack:
Garvin Industries 44014 - Garvin Industries Sport Series Track Rack for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door with Hard Top - Quadratec

dakotawolf 12-20-2011 11:40 PM

Mbrp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shredd_guy (Post 1046629)
Yes I have a lot of interest. seems like a good way to go and the direction i have been leaning. i was nervous about drilling into the top but it look pretty simple. plus it looks like a great place tobe able to lift the top off with a hoist in the garage. how much will sucker hold? do you think i could carry a 80 lb 17 foot canou?

I contacted MBRP directly asking the same question. The response was 300 lbs while in motion, 1,000 lbs in a stationary position. :thumb:

bsps1111 12-20-2011 11:58 PM

Check out this site. Provisions for a fold out tent, hinges out to form an awning, soft and hard top removal. Not that anyone should put this much load on top a jeep and turn a corner but info says will hold 1000 lbs. WILD BOAR PRODUCTS: Cargo Racks & Accessories for your Jeep Wrangler

BillyPete 12-21-2011 11:38 AM

Does the Kargo Master Congo Cage allow you to remove the freedom panels when its installed? Im wondering as it is my upcoming choice in racks to date as it will accept the Yakima cross bars and accessories. Body mount points that allow use with or without the hard top on it. Anyone have this rack?:whistling:





Oglethorpe 12-21-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredd_guy (Post 1046970)
WLEE
I can dig that too..although not as beefy looking its nice and simple and i could take the yakima stuff from my crumbling xj and transfer it to the new rig. so rain gutters? i didnt think there were rain gutters. does it require driling and adhesive?

btw try one of those air deflectors for the wind noise. i have a system like that on our munchin carrier and it howls like the banshy.

I have the Yakima set from wlee 's link and highly recommend it. Fit and finish is solid and installation, while requiring a pretty good precision level( hole drilling must be EXACT), is not too difficult( even for an un-handy man like me).

As stated before, on the highway, the wind noise is significant. I also looking for some kind of wind deflector to negate that. Any questions let me know.

shredd_guy 12-21-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oglethorpe (Post 1847075)
I have the Yakima set from wlee 's link and highly recommend it. Fit and finish is solid and installation, while requiring a pretty good precision level( hole drilling must be EXACT), is not too difficult( even for an un-handy man like me).

As stated before, on the highway, the wind noise is significant. I also looking for some kind of wind deflector to negate that. Any questions let me know.

Do think that i could hoist the top off by grabbing on to the cross bars?

willee51 12-21-2011 05:29 PM

Kargo Master
 
I prefer Kargo Master, as I believe it can be installed w/o drilling into the JEEP! At this point I DO NOT want ti drill hole in the body of my 2012 :rolleyes:

Kargo Master 5035-1 - Kargo Master Congo Cage for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec

Oglethorpe 12-22-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredd_guy (Post 1847642)
Do think that i could hoist the top off by grabbing on to the cross bars?

If I had to guess I would think this will be OK. I think the racks will support 200lbs but none of the paperwork will give a direct load capacity because it depends on the capacity of the shell. The installation is very secure, with each track held in place with at least 4 bolts. But pulling (hoist) on the rig instead of pushing (gravity) on it probably hasn't been considered in any calculation.

If the weight of the hard top is in the 100 lbs ballpark I think you'd be OK. Does anybody know what the JK unlimited hard shell weighs?

Vince1 12-22-2011 09:51 AM

Gobi gets my vote...with the hardtop you can still remove the Freedom panels and it also works with the soft top. No drilling and you can load 800lbs on it.


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