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floridajeep 02-21-2011 09:23 PM

auto or 5sp
 
Im looking to buy a tj whats better Auto or 5SP tranny will the auto tranny hold up or is there any issuse with the autos thanks

jebby 02-21-2011 09:24 PM

real jeeps are stick....

floridajeep 02-21-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jebby (Post 1072528)
real jeeps are stick....

I get all that but my question is will a auto hold up is there alot of problems with the auto tranny there are alot of them for sale

nickeagle 02-21-2011 09:43 PM

Auto if you plan to wheel it in my opion. I love my 32RH. Put a cooler on it and you are good to go. Some of us go a little crazy with cooling ours but depends on your wheeling style and difficulty. This is a very personal decision. Its like comparing apples to oranges. I have had both and for my wheeling i enjoy the auto. But with a hand throttle a stick is very wheelable.

Wyominer 02-21-2011 09:46 PM

I have 5 spds in my Jeep and my PU, just because that's what they had when I purchased them. I don't know why, but I have always liked a manual, just my thing! I have also found that my wife won't "borrow" my vehicle's nearly as often if they have a manual!

floridajeep 02-21-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nickeagle (Post 1072591)
Auto if you plan to wheel it in my opion. I love my 32RH. Put a cooler on it and you are good to go. Some of us go a little crazy with cooling ours but depends on your wheeling style and difficulty. This is a very personal decision. Its like comparing apples to oranges. I have had both and for my wheeling i enjoy the auto. But with a hand throttle a stick is very wheelable.

Ok now we are talking ,someone who know what they are talking about ,i just didnt know how they hold up in a jeep,do they have alot of issuse thanks

Wdkirk01 02-21-2011 09:55 PM

I have a 2004 with the 42RLE automatic transmission. Its a weak transmission. If you maintain it, it should last you. Its a 4 speed with OD.

I like it for driving around town. I don't care to shift while driving in dense traffic that is stop and go.

Playing in the snow drifts and snow piles didn't slow me down a bit.

nickeagle 02-21-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by floridajeep (Post 1072612)
Ok now we are talking ,someone who know what they are talking about ,i just didnt know how they hold up in a jeep,do they have alot of issuse thanks

Alot of guys swap out there manuals or 4spd autos to the 32RH. The 32RH is essentially a renamied heavy duty A999 which is one of the most reliable trans to date. As long as you keep auto trans cool it will be fine. Like i said if you buy auto spend the couple hundred to put a temp gauge in a good stacked plate cooler. You dont have to go as crazy as some of us. I run a external filter, stacked plate cooler in the grille, a remote cooler in the back with a fan, and a shift kit. The cooler in the back really only helps when wheeling aka going slow with little air flow to the cooler in the grille.
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AzTJ 02-21-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jebby (Post 1072528)
real jeeps are stick....

Typical responce. :nonono:


It really depends on what type of wheeling and driving you do OP. If you are into the rocks, auto. If you like the mud, get a stick. If you do a lot of city driving, auto might be easier on your foot.

Jeep4fn 02-21-2011 09:58 PM

I've had an auto and now drive a 6-sp. I understand and (grudgingly) agree an auto is better for wheeling. For me, I could not take the auto and it searching for the right gear on the road. I wanted the manual.
My jeep is a DD; I do spend some time at highway speeds.
Good luck.

nickeagle 02-21-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdkirk01 (Post 1072639)
I have a 2004 with the 42RLE automatic transmission. Its a weak transmission. If you maintain it, it should last you. Its a 4 speed with OD.

I like it for driving around town. I don't care to shift while driving in dense traffic that is stop and go.

Playing in the snow drifts and snow piles didn't slow me down a bit.

The biggest problem the 4 spd is that you have to gear very low to be happy with tires of 35s. I have a wheeling buddy that runs 5.38s and 36in iroks and is at the same rpm on the highway as me with 35s and 4.10s

floridajeep 02-21-2011 10:00 PM

OK im learing somthing here thanks guys

nickeagle 02-21-2011 10:02 PM

not a problem always here to help a fellow jeeper. What are your plans for the jeep?
Are you wanting to wheel it? If so what kind of terrian?

InvertChaos 02-21-2011 10:07 PM

Get what you prefer and enjoy it. One may be better than the other is some conditions and vise versa but in the end you'll be driving it. I specifically held out for a manual because they're fun. Sure in bumper to bumper they can be annoying at times but now i don't even think about it. Plus, no one else only family except for my dad can drive it so I don't have my mom or my sister take it out for spins without me knowing lol. Plus nothing beats the sound or pull of the I-6 in second gear when you get on it from 2100-3500rpm.

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Jerry Bransford 02-21-2011 11:30 PM

I've had both the 5-speed and automatic and the automatic is outstanding offroad. The tougher the trail, the more an automatic becomes a valuable asset. Converting my previous Jeep from its OE 5-speed to a 3-speed automatic gave it a dramatic improvement in its offroad abilities, due mostly to the magic of its torque converter that can provide up to 2-3X greater low-end torque than the manual transmission can provide when everything else is the same.

The 3-speed automatic used from '97 to '02 is pretty much bulletproof and is well proven. Several here recommend an transmission cooler with it like it is required for an automatic. Yes a cooler is required but all Jeeps come with an automatic transmission cooler, it is part of the radiator. What they really mean is an auxilliary transmission cooler which while nice to have, is not absolutely necessary just because you have an automatic. I finally added one to my Jeep with the 32RH automatic transmission (I converted from the 5-speed to the automatic) simply because I was towing a pop-up tent trailer up and over the mountains in hot conditions.

Keeping an automatic from overheating is important but you don't absolutely need that second aux cooler for most driving and wheeling conditions. If you plan to tow a trailer or wheel in extreme conditions it'd be a good idea but for most needs, the factory automatic transmission cooler is more than adequate.

The 4-speed automatic used starting in 2003 is ok but many, me included since I now have one, complain about its overdrive gear ratio since it drops the rpms so low. Geared properly, the 4-speed automatic is fine too though it doesn't share the "bulletproof" reputation the older 3-speed automatic does. :)


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