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meyers 03-06-2011 09:03 AM

Diagnostic Scan Tool
 
So I have been toying with the idea for awhile and decided to buy a scan tool. I was wondering those of you that have them which you have. I do not need or want some huge diagnostic machine, just something to read codes and do diagnostics. I found one online that looks good but not too familiar with the brand name. Anyone ever use this company?

Amazon.com: Equus 3160 Innova ABS + Professional CanOBD2 Diagnostic Code Scanner for OBDII Vehicles with Back-lit Screen and Enhanced Live Data: Automotive

UnlimitedLJ04 03-06-2011 09:16 AM

check out the Scangauge II

Don M 03-06-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 1099888)
check out the Scangauge II

X2

Amazon.com: ScanGauge II 3-in-1 Compact Multifunction Vehicle Computer with Customizable Display: Automotive

don

zedhead1 03-06-2011 12:16 PM

I have an Innova OBDI and II tool. Works great and you can update the software on line. Has many connector adaptors as well so you can read nearly any vehicle.

jeepjones 03-06-2011 12:24 PM

If all you need is a simple Scan Tool why are you bothering to look at these expensive ones? Why not save the cash at get something like the one I've got in the link?Autel MaxiScan MS300 CAN OBD-II Scan Tool

wranglernut 03-06-2011 01:53 PM

If you have an iPod or iPhone you can get a GoPoint cable - cause... There's an app for that!! ;) I have it and it and it works fine. Just over $100- I can find a link if you like...

robbiecc 03-06-2011 04:07 PM

i got one from AZ a few yrs back. actron cp9180 and think i paid around 80 for it on sale. does what it's supposed to do and even hooks up to the computer. was just looking it up-guess they've gone up in price a little or i got it on one heck of a sale.

Zack93 03-06-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wranglernut (Post 1100355)
If you have an iPod or iPhone you can get a GoPoint cable - cause... There's an app for that!! ;) I have it and it and it works fine. Just over $100- I can find a link if you like...

Or if you have andriod your can pay 2 dollars for basically the same app..i also can find the link for this if youd like

wranglernut 03-06-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zack93

Or if you have andriod your can pay 2 dollars for basically the same app..i also can find the link for this if youd like

I guess I was unclear... The cable is $100 - the app is free...

Zack93 03-06-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wranglernut (Post 1100614)
I guess I was unclear... The cable is $100 - the app is free...

Oh my bad, i though you meant the app was $100 :doh:

meyers 03-07-2011 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepjones (Post 1100251)
If all you need is a simple Scan Tool why are you bothering to look at these expensive ones? Why not save the cash at get something like the one I've got in the link?Autel MaxiScan MS300 CAN OBD-II Scan Tool


Because I want a scan/diagnostic tool. I do not want a code reader. I can do that by watching my check engine light. Plus I work on other vehicles as well from time to time where a code reader won't help

jgorm 03-07-2011 10:24 AM

If you want to use a computer autotap works well and is pretty cheap. Auto enginuity is better, but costs a lot more. The tricky thing with getting a good scanner is getting the vendor specific code and parameter logging abilities. Any code over p0999 is going to be vendor specific. The more brands you want to cover, the more expensive it gets. If you want to cover EVERY brand from domestic to European, plan on spending at least $2000-10,000 (new).

jeepjones 03-08-2011 04:40 AM

Well then get a good one from Snap On if you want a real scanner. Pay the money and get a good one, stop considering the $100 dollar ones, get the real $3500 scanner and the $450 cards for all the different makes of vehicles then scan away.

rrich 03-08-2011 09:00 AM

If you get the adapter link that plugs into your laptop you can do far more than the Snap-on overpriced ScaM tool.

Look on Ebay you can find the adapter link for less than $30 - and get the software that is available for them too. Then you can access sensors, see what the computer "thinks" it sees, even see the pulses like on a scope screen. If you know how, you can even do some reprogramming with it.

Or find out who makes it for Snap-On-Your-Wallet, look up the mgfr's name, buy it for less than 50%. Snip-it doesn't make them themselves. If they can't chrome it, they won't make it.

meyers 03-08-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepjones (Post 1103829)
Well then get a good one from Snap On if you want a real scanner. Pay the money and get a good one, stop considering the $100 dollar ones, get the real $3500 scanner and the $450 cards for all the different makes of vehicles then scan away.

Because Snap-On diagnostic machines are way over priced. I don't need or want to pay for a $3200 dollar name plate on a $300 tool. Plus I have played around with a few of the Snap-On ones and didn't really care for the menus and such.


I am looking more into the Laptop software some of them to have pretty good features for the cost of the interface and software.

jgorm 03-08-2011 09:16 AM

I've used the mac mentor and its a great scanner that will pull tons of stuff like chassis codes, air bag codes, etc. Many of the high priced scanners are priced high because they are WAY better and do WAY more than the laptop based ones. So far the only laptop based scanner that has bidirectional control (tha I know of) is the auto enginuity. Its still not cheap if you want all the brands. $1400 gets you this.
ProLine Interface (ST06)
• Enhanced Ford Expansion
• Enhanced Toyota Expansion
• Enhanced Chrysler Expansion
• Enhanced GM (+CAN D) Expansion
• Enhanced Honda Expansion
• Enhanced Nissan Expansion
• Enhanced Mazda Expansion
• Enhanced Hyundai/Kia Expansion
• Enhanced Subaru Expansion
• Enhanced Mitsubishi Expansion
• Enhanced Isuzu Expansion

This is an additional $1200
Enhanced Audi/VW Expansion
• Enhanced BMW/MINI Expansion
• Enhanced Mercedes Expansion
• Enhanced Jaguar Expansion
• Enhanced Land Rover Expansion
• Enhanced Porsche Expansion

You can get the domestic package for $800 with the tool.
ProLine Interface (ST06)
• Enhanced Ford Expansion
• Enhanced GM (+CAN D) Expansion
• Enhanced Chrysler Expansion

Peepers 03-08-2011 09:21 AM

I have this:
Amazon.com: Actron CP9180 AutoScanner Plus Diagnostic Code Scanner with Live, Record and Playback Data Capability and O2 Monitor Test for OBDII Vehicles: Automotive

Works good, can read instant moniters.

rrich 03-08-2011 12:50 PM

I had the Ebay link adapter - I forget which one. I was able to get into the fuel mapping, timing mapping and change things - doesn't that mean it's bi directional?

I loaned it to a friend. When he moved it got lost.

I just got another one - don't know if it's the same or not. Got a new laptop too.
Soon I'll get it hooked up and see.
The critical thing is the software - lots of it is free, but some costs a little - and your knowledge - the adapter link is mainly just a cable - the link. No reason to spend an arm and a leg.

Even the basic adapters will do what you need - simply reading the data stream.

I also have a handheld - good for codes only. Codes only tell you what area it's in - "the pot of gold is in Los Angeles" - but where in LA? Give the the real location!

jgorm 03-08-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rrich (Post 1104493)
I had the Ebay link adapter - I forget which one. I was able to get into the fuel mapping, timing mapping and change things - doesn't that mean it's bi directional?

That means you can custom tune with it too.:dance: Please provide more info with a link that works and the software that you use.:wavey: I have done pretty extensive research into the jeep ecu and I have only found 2 companies that can custom tune the ecu, and only the 05-06 ecu can be flashed with aftermarket stuff.

DString 03-08-2011 04:28 PM

i just got an actron CP9580 off of amizon and i love it.
It tells you the three most reported fixes.
I charge people $5 to read there codes and have it half paid for already

rrich 03-08-2011 05:46 PM

When I loaned out my stuff the software discs went with it. They moved to Idaho or someplace very hot.
I've just received another adapter link and a new laptop. Haven't loaded it yet. But when I do I'll let you know.
As I remember the software cost a little, 5, 10, 15 etc each, but not much - some was free. The link itself was the cheapest part. But all told I think it was less than $75 for everything.

Yes - I was able to get in and reset things like speedometer, fuel curves etc. on my '03 Rubi and others. Experimenting I found the factory settings were always the best anyway. So I always ended up going back to them. Save the settings BEFORE you change them.

The biggest advantage was looking at what the computer "thought" the sensors were saying. ie - one the PCM "thought" the temp sensor was saying it was -15 degrees outside, it really was about 85 that day. Bad sensor - lying to the PCM. The better hand-helds will do that easy.

Another was a MAP sensor. When yiu first turn the key on before starting - the MAP sensor stores the atmospheric pressure as a base reading. Then when it starts it's manifold vacuum. For some reason the MAP sensor was at a constant (stuck) - base and running it was the same. Bad MAP sensor. The PCM had no reference to determine if it was WOT - did not agree with TPS. Barely ran, set one code.
That's also where I learned that just clearing codes does not erase everything. The bull that touching cables does is not true. Testing I found it takes about 8-12 hours of power disconnected to completely erase all the bad learned stuff. Then it all goes back to default.

It's a good way to learn the system!

I'll post it when I get things going.

meyers 03-08-2011 11:14 PM

Can you send the link to where you got your stuff, sounds like just what I am looking for.

rrich 03-09-2011 12:25 AM

As I already explained TWICE! I just got this one, haven't hooked it up yet.



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