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Vinny13 03-09-2011 11:51 AM

What the Crap?
 
I was on the highway in stop and go traffic and put my jeep in neutral then went to put it into first again and it wouldnt go in or any other gear at that. So I had it towed home and I can put the jeep in first with the jeep off and start it up and it moves forward like it is supposed to. But if I start the Jeep in when its in neutral and try to put into gear no luck. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

bluefox 03-09-2011 12:02 PM

is it still under warranty This should be under powertrain

JIMBOX 03-09-2011 12:11 PM

:whistling: I'm assuming you have a manual and judging by your profile pic-you probably used your clutch while you were in MUD !!

Clutch replacement time !!

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

daggo66 03-09-2011 12:40 PM

Wow, CSI's got nothing on you Jimbo!

JIMBOX 03-09-2011 12:56 PM

:D Heh Heh, yea I had an audition for the show years ago, but


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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 1106865)
Wow, CSI's got nothing on you Jimbo!

I wasn't hired, because the Director said I breathed too heavy, everytime---

Marg Helgenberger came close !!

--Rats !

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

popstop785 03-09-2011 01:18 PM

Yet another reason why I'm happy with automatic. Less, thought process needed when offroading. Lol I'll take a sport manual car anyday though. :P

JIMBOX 03-09-2011 01:21 PM

:thumb: Totally agree-


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Originally Posted by popstop785 (Post 1106944)
Yet another reason why I'm happy with automatic. Less, thought process needed when offroading. Lol I'll take a sport manual car anyday though. :P

Any sport car should be equiped with a manual-

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

repoman100 03-09-2011 01:55 PM

we can't use our clutch in mud ?

ZOMB1E 03-09-2011 02:20 PM

Not deep mud anyway. It shouldn't stall in 4 low with your foot on the brake and if it does, just start it without the clutch.

repoman100 03-09-2011 02:22 PM

good to know ! I was planing on hitting some heavy mud in spring...

macoscpa 05-03-2011 07:02 PM

Did anyone actually answer your questions? I have a 2007 and the exact same problem.

daggo66 05-03-2011 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macoscpa
Did anyone actually answer your questions? I have a 2007 and the exact same problem.

Did you actually read the answers?

popstop785 05-03-2011 08:02 PM

Was thinking the same thing. Jimbo had a pretty good answer from the get go.

macoscpa 05-04-2011 02:06 PM

Answer?
 
Are you saying his answer of "Clutch replacement time" is an answer, or are you saying all of the comments about mud is the answer?

That is like saying nothing happens when I turn the key in the ignition so I must need to replace the engine.

JIMBOX 05-04-2011 02:11 PM

:whistling:---YUP---


Quote:

Originally Posted by macoscpa (Post 1219245)
Are you saying his answer of "Clutch replacement time" is an answer, or are you saying all of the comments about mud is the answer?

That is like saying nothing happens when I turn the key in the ignition so I must need to replace the engine.

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

jb3rry 05-04-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1106813)
:whistling: I'm assuming you have a manual and judging by your profile pic-you probably used your clutch while you were in MUD !!

Clutch replacement time !!

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

JIMBO - Your assuming it is MUD in the profile Pic....The title of the thread is "What the Crap" :D

MTH 05-04-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macoscpa (Post 1219245)
Are you saying his answer of "Clutch replacement time" is an answer, or are you saying all of the comments about mud is the answer?

That is like saying nothing happens when I turn the key in the ignition so I must need to replace the engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1219257)
---YUP---

Dang Jimbo, that's just ruthless. :D

What they're saying macoscpa is that when you shift your manual transmission while it is immersed in mud or water the transmission can suck in fluids/mud/etc. and cause similar symptoms to what the original poster described. If this occurs, a new clutch is required.

So, have you gone offroading recently and perhaps attempted to shift while the transmission was submerged? If so, the question has indeed been answered. :flowers:

JIMBOX 05-04-2011 02:18 PM

:whistling: Heh Heh, man, nothing worse than
DEEP CACA"-


Quote:

Originally Posted by jb3rry (Post 1219270)
JIMBO - Your assuming it is MUD in the profile Pic....The title of the thread is "What the Crap" :D

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

KRawson 05-04-2011 02:26 PM

Sounds like You might need new clutch, your motor won't start unless the clutch is engaged (unless you pull the fuse for that) chances are your clutch plate has lost all of the ceramic material has been ground down to metal. Have you burned it at all lately? If you did you would have seen white smoke and would have smelled the clutch.

macoscpa 05-05-2011 02:27 PM

Sorry, but that is not an answer. I have never driven my current Jeep through mud above the axles, I live in Alaska and it has been many months since there was any mud, and I do not believe the clutch in general is the problem.

When I get it fixed I will let you know what was the real problem. Also, I think "Clutch" is a pretty general term since there are several parts to a manual transmission, the pressure plate, the throughout bearing, the clutch disc.

jk'n 05-05-2011 06:16 PM

When a person familiar with mechanics on a vehicle says clutch, they are generally referring to the clutch disk not any other part or they would have said pressure plate, etc.

Could insufficient oil in the tranny cause this symptom because the syncros would not operate correctly? That one I'm not sure of because I don't know if the one would cause the other.

Dogzilla 05-05-2011 10:18 PM

I don't like mud. Hell....I don't even like DIRT roads. Asphalt is our friend.

the Kolector 05-06-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogzilla
I don't like mud. Hell....I don't even like DIRT roads. Asphalt is our friend.

Are you sure you don't drive a hummer?

Kate 05-06-2011 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogzilla (Post 1222270)
I don't like mud. Hell....I don't even like DIRT roads. Asphalt is our friend.

I'm personally fond of the name brand, designer asphalt found in mall parking lots.http://www.thedailyscrapper.com/foru...d-out-love.gif

JIMBOX 05-06-2011 09:37 AM

:nonono: I'm with you Dog, I hate mud also-it's VERY DIRTY WATER and-


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogzilla (Post 1222270)
I don't like mud. Hell....I don't even like DIRT roads. Asphalt is our friend.

It doesn't like us !!

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

clear lake jeepn 05-06-2011 02:51 PM

Mud sucks...I will take sand anyday! At least after a good rain the sand underneath falls out and u have a beach in your driveway(haha)...not another mud hole like the one you just left. I want all the money back I have spent at carwashes as a result of MUD!!

TheMadBotanist 05-06-2011 03:01 PM

Even if he had gone out mudding, he had to get from the mudhole to the stop and go traffic on the highway...why would the clutch have chosen that moment to be affected by the mud, not before?

KRawson 05-06-2011 03:58 PM

After burning a clutch it might not go out right away unless you really messed up and got dirt and gravel in there due to shifting while trying to get out of the mud. , I burned mine and it went out 3 months later out on the trail. If it is his clutch it would have gone out when the rest of the ceramic material was worn off of the disk.
Again if it is the clutch you can get a clutch kit from luk that includes everything you need for replacement for around $200.

flight risk 05-06-2011 05:45 PM

my clutch still works- it has seen mud, in fact all my vehicles have seen mud, fresh water, salt water, pluff mud, swamps etc... and I have only changed 1 clutch in all of my time wheeling (not saying it is good for it-but)..... What does mud have to do with it? A technical answer will be suffice.

macoscpa 05-17-2011 12:02 AM

My Jeep has the same problem, on mine it turned out to be the slave cylinder for the hydraulic clutch. I also found out that the clutch reservoir is in the same reservoir as the brake fluid, it is divided by a plastic wall inside the brake reservoir. If you take the lid off and look at an angle you should be able to see the clutch fluid reservoir. If that side is empty it may be your slave our master cylinder. From what I could find out the master cylinder is a sealed unit so it has to be replaced. It will run about $300 here in Alaska for the Jeep dealer to replace.


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