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Scout 06-05-2007 03:14 PM

RockHard Cage - Paint, Powder Coat or Rhino?
 
So I have the new RockHard Cage sitting in the garage and I'm debating on how I want to finish it.

What do you guys think:

A. Paint it gloss black

B. Powder coat black

C. Rhino Liner

Dare2BSquare 06-05-2007 03:27 PM

Highway yellow. (reflective)

debruins 06-05-2007 03:58 PM

dont rhino line it
whenever you touch/grab/hit/hold on/brauch past it is will rip your hands up,

MR.CLIFFORD 06-05-2007 04:14 PM

powder coat requires a media blast prior to coating so it will be more expensive. I got some "weekend" quotes for my cage... the strip was 200 and the coat was 400. 600 seems pretty damn expensive to me for that process.

Rhino lining would be neat. But what about touch up if you scrape it on your garage door? Touch up would keep me away from lining the cage.

That left me with rattle can. You can get a quality end product that is easy to touch up if you need to.

Scout 06-05-2007 04:20 PM

Is Rhino Liner difficult to touch up (meaning the product) or are you guys saying it would be harder for me to get it touched up? As in getting someone to do it.

1BLKJP 06-05-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD (Post 88570)
Rhino lining would be neat. But what about touch up if you scrape it on your garage door? Touch up would keep me away from lining the cage.

Now I am always thinking the exact opposite. We've abused some spray in bed liners with concrete blocks, rocks, steel etc.... and never had it chip off. I wouldn't think that it would chip or scratch nearly as easy as powder coating would.

Now the powder coating I agree with you on the cost to do it. If it's bare steel and all they need to do is to wipe it down then you'd cut costs considerably, but Andy for your cage it just wouldn't be cost effective.

emills 06-05-2007 04:47 PM

Where was the option for chrome or gold plate? :D

I vote rattle can

MR.CLIFFORD 06-05-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 88578)
Now I am always thinking the exact opposite. We've abused some spray in bed liners with concrete blocks, rocks, steel etc.... and never had it chip off. I wouldn't think that it would chip or scratch nearly as easy as powder coating would.

Now the powder coating I agree with you on the cost to do it. If it's bare steel and all they need to do is to wipe it down then you'd cut costs considerably, but Andy for your cage it just wouldn't be cost effective.

In a lower traffic area such as a cage I could see it being a 50/50 depending on cost. Some how Dirk got the idea of bed lining his rocker guards. Bad move. He will be the first to tell you don't do it. Anything that is going to get abused, even a roll cage, will be hard to keep the coating there.

Another down side is the door surrounds. If you bed line under their mounting holes they won't fit properly. I just see more negatives in lining and powder coating. It was pretty simple for me to pull my cage last night and paint it up brand new after adding more tube work.

Here are some pics of Dirks roll cage. It was stripped then powder coated. I really like it. The finish is tits over the other two options. I just won't want to be stuck with it if I ever wanted to change something. Cause everyone knows how often that happens around my place. :rolleyes:

After finish welding.

http://dpgoffroad.com/projectdd/PSCcage2.JPG

at the stripper. The good kind. Not the cheap kind.

http://dpgoffroad.com/projectdd/PSCcage6.JPG

and at the coater!!

http://dpgoffroad.com/projectdd/gavin7.JPG

Looks great when finished.

http://dpgoffroad.com/projectdd/gavin20.JPG

1BLKJP 06-05-2007 05:43 PM

You are right on the high traffic areas like rockers and body panels. Mine are just rattle canned that can be coated over again and again and again.

For me Powder coating would only be done if I had a friend that did it or some kind of hook up. I wouldn't want to pay full price for it just to get beat to hell. :D

jeeperman 06-05-2007 06:33 PM

I did mine in a satin black finish with a really good primer under. That way, it looks pretty good, and I will be able to touch it up with a rattle can.

tiny terror 06-05-2007 07:07 PM

Cover it in stickers. That way you just add a new one when you scratch it pulling into the mall.

JCS05Rubi 06-05-2007 08:29 PM

I worked for a Rhino Lining company. I love the lining, I put it on my truck after I left, but DO NOT put it on your cage. You will NOT be happy. Period. Its a lot more rubbery and thicker then Line-X, meaning it will rip/tear easier. It also has an odd texture to it, making it awkward to hold on to. It gets VERY hot in summer in pickup beds, and Jeep floors, I couldnt imagine how hot it would be on a roll bar... and it gets pretty sweaty in summer too. You wont be happy with Rhino Liner on your roll cage. Period.

Paint it. Unless you have more money than sense, paint it, other wise, powder coat it and send me some money too :p

JCS05Rubi 06-05-2007 08:37 PM

Forgot to add. "Touching up" rhino lining is VERY difficult and expensive. Its not like fading in paint, or even line-x. Its extremely difficult and will never look right. We had a few trucks come in where they got in an accident and had to replace a bed side, and we were supposed to rhino line the new bed side and bled it into the existing rhino lining. Rhino lining doesnt adhear to rhino lining very well. It must be grinded out, than taped off so that the new lining ends at the old lining (think of it like 2 walls coming together). At the very best, there will be a seam where the two walls of liner meet. On a round roll cage I could see this being MUCH worse. Also, even with the UV protectant, rhino lining does fade, and you need to use a sort of soapy paint to re-dye the lining back to black or the color you choose. I could see this going REAL well running all down onto the seats and such :p You have a Viking top right? I wonder how well canvas likes to rub against rubber non stop... :p

Its a good product, and I do think Rhino Lining is supperior to Line-X for most things, but sharp objects is not one of them, and a Roll Cage is just a bad idea for either of the two I think but line-x would trump rhining lining on a cage. If we were talking pickup beds, Rhino Lining hands down (unless, again, your dealing with real sharp stuff a lot), but on a cage..

Ah well, Ive said enough, just Paint the stupid cage and be done with it, than you can have it re-painted when you flop it :p Let me know if you have any specific questions on rhino lining or painting (did that too...).

ALSO!! PM ME WHEN YOU GET YOUR OLD CAGE OFF! I am very interested in your old Left Rear roll bar pad, maybe just all of them :) Mines still kinda tore up... :)

Scout 06-05-2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCS05Rubi (Post 88692)
I worked for a Rhino Lining company. I love the lining, I put it on my truck after I left, but DO NOT put it on your cage. You will NOT be happy. Period. Its a lot more rubbery and thicker then Line-X, meaning it will rip/tear easier. It also has an odd texture to it, making it awkward to hold on to. It gets VERY hot in summer in pickup beds, and Jeep floors, I couldnt imagine how hot it would be on a roll bar... and it gets pretty sweaty in summer too. You wont be happy with Rhino Liner on your roll cage. Period.

Paint it. Unless you have more money than sense, paint it, other wise, powder coat it and send me some money too :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCS05Rubi (Post 88693)
Forgot to add. "Touching up" rhino lining is VERY difficult and expensive. Its not like fading in paint, or even line-x. Its extremely difficult and will never look right. We had a few trucks come in where they got in an accident and had to replace a bed side, and we were supposed to rhino line the new bed side and bled it into the existing rhino lining. Rhino lining doesnt adhear to rhino lining very well. It must be grinded out, than taped off so that the new lining ends at the old lining (think of it like 2 walls coming together). At the very best, there will be a seam where the two walls of liner meet. On a round roll cage I could see this being MUCH worse. Also, even with the UV protectant, rhino lining does fade, and you need to use a sort of soapy paint to re-dye the lining back to black or the color you choose. I could see this going REAL well running all down onto the seats and such :p You have a Viking top right? I wonder how well canvas likes to rub against rubber non stop... :p

Its a good product, and I do think Rhino Lining is supperior to Line-X for most things, but sharp objects is not one of them, and a Roll Cage is just a bad idea for either of the two I think but line-x would trump rhining lining on a cage. If we were talking pickup beds, Rhino Lining hands down (unless, again, your dealing with real sharp stuff a lot), but on a cage..

Ah well, Ive said enough, just Paint the stupid cage and be done with it, than you can have it re-painted when you flop it :p Let me know if you have any specific questions on rhino lining or painting (did that too...).

ALSO!! PM ME WHEN YOU GET YOUR OLD CAGE OFF! I am very interested in your old Left Rear roll bar pad, maybe just all of them :) Mines still kinda tore up... :)


Is that all you got?

Scout 06-05-2007 09:19 PM

:D :D :D Just kidding JCS :D :D :D

I think paint or powder coat it is. That was enough info to satisfy my curiosity about the Rhino. I have some time off on Friday afternoon so I'm going to swing by a shop here in town that does powder coating. He did my tie rod and diff covers for me last year and he was very reasonible. I think he only charged me about $ 35 to do all of that. If he'll do it for less than a couple of hundred I'll just pull the trigger on it.

Thanks for the replies. You guys provided some really good info! :)

Dare2BSquare 06-05-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 88666)
Cover it in stickers. That way you just add a new one when you scratch it pulling into the mall.

I like that idea. Spiderman or something cool like that.

JCS05Rubi 06-06-2007 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Scout (Post 88709)
:D :D Just kidding JCS :D :D :D

I think paint or powder coat it is. That was enough info to satisfy my curiosity about the Rhino. I have some time off on Friday afternoon so I'm going to swing by a shop here in town that does powder coating. He did my tie rod and diff covers for me last year and he was very reasonible. I think he only charged me about $ 35 to do all of that. If he'll do it for less than a couple of hundred I'll just pull the trigger on it.

Thanks for the replies. You guys provided some really good info! :)

:flipoff: :D

btw. That information costs ya $175. Damn shipping from MD to TX over the internet is a doosey :eek: :p

I still cant believe they wanted almost half of the cost of your top just to ship it.

Scout 06-06-2007 08:11 AM

Checks in the mail.

Tell me about it. Now I know when I want to sell something like that it'll be "Local Pickup Only". :D

mrbigjeep 06-08-2007 06:04 PM

flat black

i've used the high heat flat black stuff...works good

Scout 06-08-2007 07:51 PM

I painted it today. Hammered black for easy touch-up. I like the idea of the easy touch-up since I do all the hard core stuff and I'll really give this cage a workout. LOL :D

activelydying 06-08-2007 07:55 PM

any pics?

i guess that's a silly question.

Scout 06-08-2007 08:08 PM

Uploading... :D

Scout 06-08-2007 08:19 PM

One more coat and they should be good to go.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t/DSC03141.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t/DSC03144.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t/DSC03142.jpg

activelydying 06-08-2007 08:23 PM

purdy :) are you gonna install it yourself?

Scout 06-08-2007 08:27 PM

Yeah once I figure out how to use my new welder.

activelydying 06-08-2007 08:29 PM

YOU HAVE A WELDER:eek: :eek:

MR.CLIFFORD 06-08-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Scout (Post 89883)
Yeah once I figure out how to use my new welder.

What's his name?:flipoff:

activelydying 06-08-2007 08:36 PM

hehe...good one. :D

Scout 06-08-2007 08:46 PM

Hehehehehe...http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...scout/2560.gif

activelydying 06-08-2007 08:50 PM

your gonna use a banana to weld the cage on?


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