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chrisojk 03-20-2011 10:24 PM

Disconnecting the sway bar, manually
 
So we have a family weekend away coming up, where there are some nice trails which include some minor rock crawling.
I was thinking this would be a good opportunity to get under the Jeep and disconnect the sway bar (stock 2 door - no quick discos or electronic discos).

I did a search on here and couldn't find anything, so - any tips? What kind of tools will I need? I think I read somewhere a big bugger of a screwdriver will be handy.
How about securing it once disconnected? Any difficulties re-connecting?

I'll be giving it a trial run in the next couple of days, but thought it'd be handy being armed with a bit of info.

Richd1963 03-20-2011 10:30 PM

I have quick disco's but I have seen others zip Tye them up out of the way. I am not sure what size wrench to un-bolt. Get some large zip-tyes

jcf 03-20-2011 10:59 PM

It would be better to wait untill you have some disconnects, the JKS quicker disco's are great, otherwise you could take a lot longer taking the links out & replacing them. Don't disconnect the rear, just the front & if you are going to drive on the road be carefull on corners & go slow. I never drive on the road without the diso's connected but some do. It is easy to re-connect if you are on a level surface & I tie mine up with the big zip ties like Richd was saying

Irishcoffee 03-20-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisojk
So we have a family weekend away coming up, where there are some nice trails which include some minor rock crawling.
I was thinking this would be a good opportunity to get under the Jeep and disconnect the sway bar (stock 2 door - no quick discos or electronic discos).

I did a search on here and couldn't find anything, so - any tips? What kind of tools will I need? I think I read somewhere a big bugger of a screwdriver will be handy.
How about securing it once disconnected? Any difficulties re-connecting?

I'll be giving it a trial run in the next couple of days, but thought it'd be handy being armed with a bit of info.


Well,

bypassing the electro crap on a Jeep JK sway bar on Vimeo
This video shows that I am not the only one who said that Mopar solution on the rubi is the best. I recon that it's very convenient to push a button but hey gus that's not all.

Comming back to our sheeps
compare for yourself the stock Rubi ~ USD 1390 Mopar Sway Bar with the bellow much cheeper one (arround 700-800 bucks) and much effcient products:

Depeding on your budget have a look on aftermarket online sellers over:

1. ORO Products:
"Off Road AirROCK™ Controlled SwayLOC™ Swaybar"
or
"Off Road Switch Operated SwayLOC™ Swaybar"
some hints also here:
Welcome to Off Road Only!

2. CURRIE Enterprises product:
Anti-Rock Sway Bar Kit ( I recommend)
Currie Enterprises 4x4 Rear Ends Antirock

3. Skyjacker RockLock Sway Bar Disconnect System
But as I read here on this forum the guys are not very happy with this skyjacker product especially on their TJ's.

Hope this is more helpull and enoy a smooth ride over the rocks!

John
PS: My jk is still under warranty until April 2011 and can't wait to change after the unstoppable blinking of the Mopar Sway Bar comes back!
For now it works but you never know....!
Cheers!

GroundHawg 03-20-2011 11:33 PM

Park on a flat surface.

I think it's an 18mm wrench or socket, remove that bolt where it connects to the axle.

Take a 19mm wrench in between the sway bar link and sway bar and hold the ball joint thing in place while removing the nut securing it in place with the 18mm wrench.

Save those links in the center console. I always remove them so they don't get lost.

Now zip tie the sway bar UP OUT OF THE WAY.

Put it back together the same way. It's a real bitch sometimes re-connecting and I sometimes need a friend jumping around on the hood to help line it up :rofl:

DONT DRIVE FAST ON THE ROAD. SERIOUSLY, GO LIKE 10 :rofl: I forgot to reconnect once and I thought she was going over pulling into a gas station.

DONT DISCONNECT THE REAR.

DO BUY JKS QUICK DISCO's FOR NEXT TIME. Get me a set too

chrisojk 03-21-2011 07:32 PM

I had a feeling it might be too much trouble. I'll have a go while the Jeep is in the garage but not sure if I can be bothered doing this out in the bush.

Maybe disconnecting the sway bar can wait until I've bought myself (and GroundHawg) a set of quick discos.

GroundHawg 03-21-2011 07:38 PM

lol thanks man.

It's usually not too bad. The trick is finding a nice flat spot to re-connect

SeaComms 03-22-2011 03:56 AM

Nooo, no trouble at all once you have done it once.

18mm socket and I think a 17mm spanner (cant remember now) and just remove the bolts from the axle end.

Once both are undone, lift the swaybar up pretty much as high as it will go then swing the links up parallel to the bar and cable tie them to something up there.

I did this several times before getting PP quick disconnects and it only takes a couple of minutes. Makes a huge difference to crawling as the traction is heaps better.

Of course always drive carefully when removed, keeping prob below 40mph (I could comfortably sit at 80km/hr - bout 55mph) and only try to fit/remove on flat ground or you will go mad!

Scooter_Trash 03-22-2011 05:27 PM

I've got Terraflex QD's now, but I would manually disconnect each time I went wheeling. To me it's just safer to keep all your wheels on the ground as much as possible.

Takes a few minutes but it's NOT hard at all. Everybody has pretty much told you how to do it, so I won't get into that. But I will tell you that I carry long zip ties (you can also connect 2 shorter ties together to make a long one) and then zip tie the links to the front body mount. I only undo the bottom link and leave the top still connected to the sway bar. I've driven home disconnected, you just have to be careful and avoid sudden turns.

Reconnecting can be a pain. Park on a level surface, but sometimes I've connected one side and the other just doesn't want to line up. I'll throw a small rock in front of the tire and drive up on it and that will line it up better.

chrisojk 03-22-2011 05:51 PM

Ok it's back on. Where we'll be staying on the weekend is a 5 minute drive (about 2 corners involved) to get to the crawling spot. I figure I'll disconnect there, then take it easy on the drive to the spot. With the amount of 'roos and other wildlife getting around up there I'll be doing about 15km/h!

A couple of different sizes of zip ties are one thing I keep in the Jeep always, so no issues there.

Thanks for all the tips guys, this should make the process much easier. I'll get some shots of the Jeep in action up when I get back.

Faziomba79 06-23-2016 04:33 AM

guys, no drama... you can drive on the road at also normal speed without the sway bar connected, just don't be too reckless in surning. As soon as you are not racing it'll be fine.
Disconnect and reconnect when you have a nice flat spot, not ne essarely at the trail head.

TxTrailRunner 06-23-2016 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faziomba79 (Post 26326577)
guys, no drama... you can drive on the road at also normal speed without the sway bar connected, just don't be too reckless in surning. As soon as you are not racing it'll be fine.
Disconnect and reconnect when you have a nice flat spot, not ne essarely at the trail head.

they may have figured this out in the last 5 years since this thread had avtivity

Socaljk 06-23-2016 09:31 AM

Seriously do not be discouraged. Look up a couple video's on youtube. If you can turn a wrench you can disconnect. I have a Rubicon and on hard technical trails I manually disconnect. Before I got quick disconnects I just crawled under and took out the bottom bolt. Pushed the sway bar link up out of the way zip tied the link to the sway bar and the used a bungee cord around the frame and the sway bar so it didn't move around when i was off roading. Seriously its like 10 minutes tops. I actually took a picture of it and posted it on the forum let me see if I can find the link.

Here it is http://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/sw...e-1721729.html

made in the USA 06-23-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faziomba79 (Post 26326577)
guys, no drama... you can drive on the road at also normal speed without the sway bar connected, just don't be too reckless in surning. As soon as you are not racing it'll be fine.
Disconnect and reconnect when you have a nice flat spot, not ne essarely at the trail head.

Yep drove around with no sway bars for a few months no problems at all. Just drive like you got some sense and you will be fine.

Faziomba79 06-23-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TxTrailRunner (Post 26327609)
they may have figured this out in the last 5 years since this thread had avtivity

I know, I just bumped in so many treads with people say: connect as soon as you get on the road! Drive 10 miles/h etc... yesterday I bumped into this and felt I had to answer, so people can read and cut the drama.

TxTrailRunner 06-23-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faziomba79 (Post 26335033)
I know, I just bumped in so many treads with people say: connect as soon as you get on the road! Drive 10 miles/h etc... yesterday I bumped into this and felt I had to answer, so people can read and cut the drama.

Works for me. As long as they know what to expect when discod while on road , it's not a big deal.

ronmcc4 06-26-2016 01:28 PM

Ok. I use JKS Quicker Disconnects. Simple question. Once the Quicker Disconnects are removed do I tie up both ends of the anti-sway bar is is just one end enough?

Socaljk 06-26-2016 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcc4 (Post 26363169)
Ok. I use JKS Quicker Disconnects. Simple question. Once the Quicker Disconnects are removed do I tie up both ends of the anti-sway bar is is just one end enough?

You can but for me i just do both. I had a zip tie pinch and break on one side but the other held. So no i use a small strap around the frame and sway bar on one side and a zip tie on the other for piece of mind. This is until I figure out a better way of doing it, meaning a little more professional looking then a strap.

ronmcc4 06-26-2016 02:19 PM

There's a video on YouTube by Effing Jeep showing a JKS Quicker Disconnect install. He shows a device using a spring snap, chain link, and large washer. That's what I use. Trouble is the driver's side rattles against the spring sometimes since the mounting holes aren't exactly the same on both side. If you see it you'll understand. Probably stick with both sides anyway for safety. Thanks.

Socaljk 06-26-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcc4 (Post 26363569)
There's a video on YouTube by Effing Jeep showing a JKS Quicker Disconnect install. He shows a device using a spring snap, chain link, and large washer. That's what I use. Trouble is the driver's side rattles against the spring sometimes since the mounting holes aren't exactly the same on both side. If you see it you'll understand. Probably stick with both sides anyway for safety. Thanks.

Yea I saw that one. There has to be a better way. That rattling would drive me nuts.

ronmcc4 06-26-2016 02:32 PM

Only the longer one rattles and then only when the spring is really compressed. If the holes in the spring buckets were exactly level all would be well. Nearly impossible of course. That's why I wondered if I could only secure one side. I may slightly enlarge the higher hole which would make the snap sit a little lower. Or come up with something else entirely. I'd rather not depend on zip ties, etc.

IUOE_Mike 06-26-2016 03:03 PM

As others have said they're easy to disconnect and just zip tie out of the way. I would just remove from the axle side and zip tie the link and sway bar up and out of the way. May need some PB blaster or WD40, I know I did when I removed mine.
When I installed my lift I did the Tereflex quick disconnects/brackets at the same time, well worth the $ if you intend to take your JK off road regularly..

chrisojk 07-24-2016 05:56 AM

I ended up removing the links completely and cable tied the sway bar in its normal position. After taking them off and back on for a while I've now been running without them for months.
It drives a bit boaty and you gotta take it easy around off camber bends, but no problems.
I'll replace them with quick discos at some stage.

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Hivedr 07-24-2016 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisojk (Post 26689945)
I ended up removing the links completely and cable tied the sway bar in its normal position. After taking them off and back on for a while I've now been running without them for months.
It drives a bit boaty and you gotta take it easy around off camber bends, but no problems.
I'll replace them with quick discos at some stage.

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I drive my 13 JKU often with the disconnects off and for long distances often on sharp twisting mountain roads. I rather like the way it drives with them off and in combination with my lift and tires. One just needs to be aware of the handling differences and adjust driving style accordingly. We often forget that trucks in the 60,70 and into the mid 80s did not have sway bars. Sway bars were added to help with low/mid speed emergency driving maneuvers (hard
turns and braking) that were an associated factor in truck rolling overs.

All one is doing by driving with the away bars off, is turning the clock back so to speak to a time before sway bars. It is not as dangerous as folks like to make it out to be if as I said above one drives accordingly.

That all said and on a side note I run JKS disconnects on both our Jeeps. There is an easy
way when not on level ground to putting sway bar back on if you have another person to help. Just lightly push up or down on an open front doors, this raises and lowers the link ends a fair amount and makes installing the sway bars back on super easy. I learned this for an old crusty Aussy living here in the states year ago (note: of course this only works if the doors are on. LOL).


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