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joesunlimited1 03-27-2011 11:38 AM

Minimum for 33's
 
Can I fit 33x10.5x15's on stock Canyon wheels with bb or will I need to add body lift? Also am I correct in thinking that with 10.5 wide tires I won't need to change wheels with different bs? Or should I just go with 32's?

planman 03-27-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1141035)
Can I fit 33x10.5x15's on stock Canyon wheels with bb or will I need to add body lift? Also am I correct in thinking that with 10.5 wide tires I won't need to change wheels with different bs? Or should I just go with 32's?

To run 33s with stock flares and no body lift, you need 2" extended bumpstops and to adjust the steering stops.

The generally recommended approach is a 2"-2.5" lift, 1' body lift, 1" motor mount lift, and maybe 1" extended bumptops--plus, adjust the steering stops.

With a 2"-2.5" lift on a TJ without a SYE/driveshaft/rear upper adjustable control arms, you most often have to add a transfer case drop to avoid rear driveshaft vibrations. A less expensive way to deal with this without having to lower your transfer case skid is to install a 1" motor mount lift and 1" body lift at the same time.

So yes, you can do it without the BL/MML if you add 2" extended bumpstops when you do the 2" BB with a 1/2"-1" transfer case drop. However, the BB, BL, MML is a better approach.

May 32s risk being too wide and rubbing the rear upper spring perches unless you run wheel spacers or a rear adjustable trackbar to center your axle.

joesunlimited1 03-27-2011 07:55 PM

Thanks I think I understand.

Koda22 03-27-2011 09:42 PM

I got 33x11.50 on my jeep with a rough country 2.5inch lift.....and dont rub...

joesunlimited1 03-28-2011 04:59 AM

Koda Did you have to change your wheels? Are they something with a different back spacing?

UnlimitedLJ04 03-28-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1141035)
Can I fit 33x10.5x15's on stock Canyon wheels with bb or will I need to add body lift? Also am I correct in thinking that with 10.5 wide tires I won't need to change wheels with different bs? Or should I just go with 32's?

the biggest tire you can fit with a Budget Boost alone is 31x10.50R15.

to add bigger tires you need more lift and/or more bumpstop extension.

To fit 33s with the budget boost you'll need to add a 1" Body lift, 1-2" front bumpstop extension and 2" rear bumpstop extension.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/corr...gth-70047.html

joesunlimited1 03-28-2011 11:53 AM

The lift I have is 2" spacers, 2" bumpstop extensions, 1" transfer case spacer and longer shocks. And extended quick disconnect swaybar links. Totally confused....

UnlimitedLJ04 03-28-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1143038)
The lift I have is 2" spacers, 2" bumpstop extensions, 1" transfer case spacer and longer shocks. And extended quick disconnect swaybar links. Totally confused....

2" bumpstop extensions front and rear? or just rear?

the 1" t-case spacer is not necessary on your LJ, and has no bearing on tire size.

KawiMonsterSahara 03-28-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 1142998)
the biggest tire you can fit with a Budget Boost alone is 31x10.50R15.
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disagree... have a good friend that has been running 32 inch BFGs on a Budget Boost (Rubicon Express) and even quick disconnects... plenty of flex

UnlimitedLJ04 03-28-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KawiMonsterSahara (Post 1143193)
disagree... have a good friend that has been running 32 inch BFGs on a Budget Boost (Rubicon Express) and even quick disconnects... plenty of flex

you can disagree and talk about "flex" all you want, but what matters is what happens at the bumpstops. :wavey:

KawiMonsterSahara 03-28-2011 02:22 PM

Not sure on the bumpstops... think he is stock... but dont know for sure..

Bone 03-28-2011 02:41 PM

I'm running 31s on my stock rims ('04 LJ) with no lift right now and I have plenty of room. With a 2" spacer lift I wouldn't go bigger than 32s on your stock rims with stock flares. You CAN fit 33s on it with different rims but the problem is that you'll shred your flares pulling into your driveway. You can run the Bushwacker flat style flares with 33s and lessen that problem but you still won't have enough room for much articulation with the 2"BB and 33s. Don't worry about the T-case drop on the LJ, that isn't an issue with that amount of lift.

joesunlimited1 03-28-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 1143162)
2" bumpstop extensions front and rear? or just rear?

the 1" t-case spacer is not necessary on your LJ, and has no bearing on tire size.

2" front and rear bumpstops. I was going to go with a 33x10.5x15on stock Canyon wheels. Should I add a 1" bl?:banghead:

Koda22 03-28-2011 08:31 PM

I have after market rims....forgot about that.....

UnlimitedLJ04 03-28-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1144160)
2" front and rear bumpstops. I was going to go with a 33x10.5x15on stock Canyon wheels. Should I add a 1" bl?:banghead:

yup a 1" BL will help, but 2" bumpstop extension front and rear will fit 33s.

joesunlimited1 03-29-2011 04:43 AM

The bump stops are just so you dont over compress your springs right?

s3nt3nc3d 03-29-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1144896)
The bump stops are just so you dont over compress your springs right?

I'm not a suspension expert, but I'm pretty sure they're also what stops your tire from eating your fender if your tire doesn't have enough room for the suspension to fully flex with the factory bump stops.

Bone 03-29-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1145132)
I'm not a suspension expert, but I'm pretty sure they're also what stops your tire from eating your fender if your tire doesn't have enough room for the suspension to fully flex with the factory bump stops.


Yes, as well as saving your shocks, w/o bumpstops your shock could become the limiting factor with axle articulation. Bottoming out your shock with the weight of the axle/wheel can be a bad thing. The same goes with a full compression. I've finished a trail run with only three shocks due to a busted rear shock mount before. It was, um, interesting.:eek:

UnlimitedLJ04 03-29-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by joesunlimited1 (Post 1144896)
The bump stops are just so you dont over compress your springs right?

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1145132)
I'm not a suspension expert, but I'm pretty sure they're also what stops your tire from eating your fender if your tire doesn't have enough room for the suspension to fully flex with the factory bump stops.

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Originally Posted by Bone (Post 1145184)
Yes, as well as saving your shocks, w/o bumpstops your shock could become the limiting factor with axle articulation. Bottoming out your shock with the weight of the axle/wheel can be a bad thing. The same goes with a full compression. I've finished a trail run with only three shocks due to a busted rear shock mount before. It was, um, interesting.:eek:

x2. Bumpstops serve several important functions.
1. prevent suspension/steering/drivetrain interferences
2. prevent shocks from bottoming out
3. prevent coil bind
4. prevent tire/fender interferences

notice tire clearance issues are on the bottom of the list.

joesunlimited1 03-29-2011 12:32 PM

Thanks all for the input!!! Just to recap i should be able to fit the tire i have listed on stock Canyon wheels with lift I have listed. And a 1" bl would just be insurance?

IndyJeepMan 03-29-2011 12:50 PM

If you get creative and dish the cash out you can fit 33's stock :thumb:


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