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jnich 04-09-2011 11:35 PM

Towing Question
 
The maximum towing capacity for my wife's 2009 KIA Sportage is 2000 lbs. I've never weighed my rig, but I'd venture to say that it weights well above 2k lbs.

I am wanting to go to an off road park that is about 2 hours away. I could drive the jeep with its whopping 10 mpg up there or tow it with probably not much better gas mileage. What do you guys think?

KIA gets about 19-21 highway mpg.

EDIT: Just realized I dumped this in the TJ section....The jeep is a TJ, but I reckon that has nothing to do with the KIA's towing ability.

freeskier 04-09-2011 11:49 PM

TJs weigh a bit under 4,000lb IIRC for the 4.0L and just over 3,000lb for the 4 banger. Probably not a good idea to tow it behind the Kia.

jnich 04-09-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 1168873)
TJs weigh a bit under 4,000lb IIRC for the 4.0L and just over 3,000lb for the 4 banger. Probably not a good idea to tow it behind the Kia.

Didn't think it would be a good idea... yeah.. I got the 4.0 and underside and outside are completely armored... I am probably pushing close to 5k... Hopefully after this next deployment I can pick up a truck/trailer for wheeling outside the local area. (and also for a daily driver)

KaiserJeep 04-10-2011 09:33 AM

IMHO a Jeep should be driven everywhere. If it is no longer suitable for driving on the road, it is a clear indication that you went too far with the mods.

Building a Jeep for offroad only is a waste of money. It means that what you really wanted all along was a high performance offroad rig such as a tubeframe chassis. I do mean that you wasted a LOT of money too, because a tubeframe rig is so light that it can be towed on a trailer by a much smaller Class III tow vehicle. To tow a Jeep on a trailer you should have a Class IV tow vehicle.

I'd suggest that you either back off on some of your mods, or sell the Jeep and get the type of vehicle you really want to own. Because what a Jeep really is is a highway vehicle capable of being driven offroad. The dual purpose use is what Jeeping is all about.

nick50471 04-10-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaiserJeep
IMHO a Jeep should be driven everywhere. If it is no longer suitable for driving on the road, it is a clear indication that you went too far with the mods.

Building a Jeep for offroad only is a waste of money. It means that what you really wanted all along was a high performance offroad rig such as a tubeframe chassis. I do mean that you wasted a LOT of money too, because a tubeframe rig is so light that it can be towed on a trailer by a much smaller Class III tow vehicle. To tow a Jeep on a trailer you should have a Class IV tow vehicle.

I'd suggest that you either back off on some of your mods, or sell the Jeep and get the type of vehicle you really want to own. Because what a Jeep really is is a highway vehicle capable of being driven offroad. The dual purpose use is what Jeeping is all about.

You realize you just alienated over half of this forum.

I am glad you think we are all wasting our money. I'll tell you what.....I will spend my money on whatever I want and you can just keep your IMHO to yourself.

jnich 04-10-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaiserJeep
IMHO a Jeep should be driven everywhere. If it is no longer suitable for driving on the road, it is a clear indication that you went too far with the mods.

Building a Jeep for offroad only is a waste of money. It means that what you really wanted all along was a high performance offroad rig such as a tubeframe chassis. I do mean that you wasted a LOT of money too, because a tubeframe rig is so light that it can be towed on a trailer by a much smaller Class III tow vehicle. To tow a Jeep on a trailer you should have a Class IV tow vehicle.

I'd suggest that you either back off on some of your mods, or sell the Jeep and get the type of vehicle you really want to own. Because what a Jeep really is is a highway vehicle capable of being driven offroad. The dual purpose use is what Jeeping is all about.

I've wasted my money the same way a chocolate lover waste money on chocolate or a sex addict on hookers.

To each his own.

C.L. 04-11-2011 08:07 AM

Forget all the philosophical discussion on whether a Jeep should be driven vs. hauled to your wheeling site; it would just be an affront to pull it behind an effin' Kia! You'd have to blindfold the Jeep just to get it on the trailer for god's sake...

UnlimitedLJ04 04-11-2011 08:14 AM

no you shouldn't use a Kia Sportage to tow a TJ that weighs more than double the towing capacity of the Sportage.

buy a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck, then you're on to something that could get good mileage on the highway while towing a Jeep.

rbloodhound 04-11-2011 08:16 AM

I can understand wanting to tow it. If it breaks he is stuck.

As far as mods I'll build my jeep how I want it. Right now it has 6" lift and 35" tires. I am at work 800 miles from home. I drove the jeep. When I wheel it it is towed.

6InARowMakesItGo 04-11-2011 12:39 PM

the towing capacity of the kia, or the jeep for that matter, is enough to pull an empty trailer thats large enough to hold a vehicle. so no you can't tow your jeep with the kia safely.

freeskier 04-11-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04
no you shouldn't use a Kia Sportage to tow a TJ that weighs more than double the towing capacity of the Sportage.

buy a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck, then you're on to something that could get good mileage on the highway while towing a Jeep.

Ford ecoboost FTW. Somehow I got stuck watching their promotional show. Sold me on it, if I ever need a truck

KawiMonsterSahara 04-11-2011 01:08 PM

"Join Date: Mar 2011"


Poor widdle new guy.... just opened a whole new can...

TexasT 04-11-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeskier

Ford ecoboost FTW. Somehow I got stuck watching their promotional show. Sold me on it, if I ever need a truck

Ha Ha. I saw that too. Chrysler has come out with a power 6 too and it's supposed to be in new Wranglers soon.

BTW...NO you should not pull it with a Kia. If there was an accident your liability would be completely your own since you're going against mfg's specs.

KawiMonsterSahara 04-11-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.L. (Post 1171190)
... it would just be an affront to pull it behind an effin' Kia! You'd have to blindfold the Jeep just to get it on the trailer for god's sake...

:rofl: OMG i just laughed SOOOO HARD... i probably just got myself in trouble (at work right now)..... :hide:

NHrubicon 04-11-2011 01:13 PM

my 2003 rubicon is completely armored, end to end, custom solid steel box and tube bumpers, Warn winch...and I have weighed it on scales at the local recycling center-just about 3600#, and that's with 33 x 12 x 15 Cepek Crushers on 15 x 8 steel rims.
So the TJ that's fully armored wouldn't be over 4000# unless you have 3-4 hefty people riding in it.
And No, I would not tow behind a KIA...I would tow the Kia and use it for a speed bump out on the trail...LOL. Nothing you can do-except get lousy mileage on your way to and from the trail. But you should be getting better than 10 mpg...

Cons_Table 04-11-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaiserJeep (Post 1169227)
IMHO a Jeep should be driven everywhere. If it is no longer suitable for driving on the road, it is a clear indication that you went too far with the mods.

Building a Jeep for offroad only is a waste of money. It means that what you really wanted all along was a high performance offroad rig such as a tubeframe chassis. I do mean that you wasted a LOT of money too, because a tubeframe rig is so light that it can be towed on a trailer by a much smaller Class III tow vehicle. To tow a Jeep on a trailer you should have a Class IV tow vehicle.

I'd suggest that you either back off on some of your mods, or sell the Jeep and get the type of vehicle you really want to own. Because what a Jeep really is is a highway vehicle capable of being driven offroad. The dual purpose use is what Jeeping is all about.

I dont think he said the jeep WASNT suitable for the road :doh: and why would you question someone else's mods? They arent spending your money

tar 04-11-2011 02:54 PM

haha this thread made me laugh pretty hard. if you're against using jeeps for offroading all together, don't bother joining this forum because that's what 99% of the talk on here is about...

UnlimitedLJ04 04-11-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 1171660)
Ford ecoboost FTW. Somehow I got stuck watching their promotional show. Sold me on it, if I ever need a truck

yea, I saw that promo too. I want that engine in my Jeep. :punk: the torque curve is amazing!

Too bad Jeep isn't owned by Ford...I bet that motor would fit nicely in a JK :popcorn:

freeskier 04-11-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 1171985)
yea, I saw that promo too. I want that engine in my Jeep. :punk: the torque curve is amazing!

Too bad Jeep isn't owned by Ford...I bet that motor would fit nicely in a JK :popcorn:

I was thinking how amazing it would be in the Jeep as well, plus you would get better MPGs and performance. All though if we're being realistic here, there just some things a truck can do that a Jeep can't (towing, cargo space). It would be awesome to have both the new F-150 and ecoboost engine in the Jeep.

The engine makes more torque at 1000 RPM than the 4.0 does at it's highest peak! Then like well over 400lb/ft around 2500RPM.

My new dream is to put that engine in my Jeep. :drool:

Sorry to derail, but this thread isn't going anywhere anymore. :angel:

Destro 04-11-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 1172099)
The engine makes more torque at 1000 RPM than the 4.0 does at it's highest peak! Then like well over 400lb/ft around 2500RPM.

My new dream is to put that engine in my Jeep. :drool:

Sorry to derail, but this thread isn't going anywhere anymore. :angel:

Bah, my CTD gets 600lb/ft at 1500 RPM and I get 20 MPG on the highway. I also get 16MPG towing a 12-15k trailer on the highway...
Something tells me that the 6.7 Cummings will not fit in a TJ no matter how hard you tried though.
2010 Ram 3500 SRW Crew cab.
** I need a trailer to haul my Jeep to the trails. I still DD my Jeep, but have to be conservative with it on the trails because the closest ORV park is 2 hours away...

freeskier 04-11-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Destro (Post 1172119)
Bah, my CTD gets 600lb/ft at 1500 RPM and I get 20 MPG on the highway. I also get 16MPG towing a 12-15k trailer on the highway...
Something tells me that the 6.7 Cummings will not fit in a TJ no matter how hard you tried though.
2010 Ram 3500 SRW Crew cab.
** I need a trailer to haul my Jeep to the trails. I still DD my Jeep, but have to be conservative with it on the trails because the closest ORV park is 2 hours away...

Yeah, but 400lb/ft isn't to shabby for a gasoline engine, compared to a diesel.

I also went on Wikipedia and they're saying a V8 engine is rumored, codename "Bobcat".

deathphoenix99 04-12-2011 08:21 AM

I don't even think the Kia would have the power to tow something that heavy, especially being an automatic most likely, your tranny will be fryed by the time it even made it there.


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