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49erFan 04-28-2011 11:41 AM

which lift to get...I need help (stock Rubicon TJ)
 
I have a stock 2006 Wrangler Rubicon with 93K miles. My tires are gone so I am thinking about getting a small lift, before I get new tires. I really dont want to spend more than $300 ($400 is my absolute max). I drive this jeep every day to/from work and only go offroading a few times a year. I have narrowed down my choices to these two:

Jeep TJ Suspension Lift
This is a 2.5" suspension lift. New progressive springs, shocks, and transfer case spacers. ($300)

Fabtech, skyjacker, rubicon express, bestop, truck tires, pro comp wheels
This is a 2.25" coil spacer lift that comes with new Bilstein 5100 shocks and a pair rear bump stops extensions. ($400)

So I really don't know what to do. I know my Rubicon has heavier springs than a stock non-Rubicon, so I am not sure if the RC lift with new springs will add or take away from my Rubicon's trail ability. Also I am concerned that the 4W lift's shocks don't really fit, or they wouldn't need bump stops exts.

I am a noob at mods so I am looking for some expert help. I have read tons of threads in this forum and you guys seem to give some good help.

My concerns are these: 1) this is my daily driver and 2) I don't want my Rubicon to become a liability on the trail becuase of this lift. I don't do anything crazy, but I want to know that I am not putting myself in a situation to get stuck somewhere due to some mechanical failure due to this lift.

What I want out of this lift: 1)to run some bigger tire (32's...maybe 33's if they will fit without rubbing) 2)for my jeep to look a little cooler 3) to keep or exceed the trail ability my stock Rubicon has shown me

Thanks in advance!!

KidRock171 04-28-2011 12:05 PM

If you don't mind a rough ride. Rough country. I have it it works great offroad, but speed bumps will destroy you. That's pretty much the only time I don't like the RC lift...speed bumps. I got an 04 Rubicon. The best budget lift on the market. If you want to run 33's I'd suggest the RC 3.75 combo kit. With the right bumpstops you won't have any worrys. I got a couple pics of that one if your thinking about it.

KidRock171 04-28-2011 12:08 PM

The bottom pic was a spur of the moment trip so I didn't get a chance to disco. I.e. The lack of flex.

49erFan 04-28-2011 08:24 PM

That is the look I am trying to get. What size tires are you running? Any issues with rubbing?

UnlimitedLJ04 04-28-2011 08:57 PM

if u dont want to spend more than $400, do a 1" bl and 1" mml. run 31s.

Zetsumei 04-28-2011 09:04 PM

I'd agree with Kidrock, RC has some good budget stuff, and their stuff has apparently gotten better over the past few years. I just picked up their 2.5" suspension lift w/ rear track bar bracket for 300.

Owen_TJ 04-28-2011 09:06 PM

My 3" zone suspension lift is going on saturday...going to run 32's but most run 33's

3" zone lift is 460 shipped from AOR tires are another story but oh well haha

KidRock171 04-28-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erFan
That is the look I am trying to get. What size tires are you running? Any issues with rubbing?

Worn down 32" so looks more like a 31" I'd go with 31 on 2.5 lift. But now I have a 3.75 combo kit. ^^^+ 1.25 BL and 33"

MikeMTJ 04-28-2011 10:03 PM

Save your money and wait to do it right.

AdrenalineJunky45 04-28-2011 10:44 PM

GenRight Front & Rear Suspension Kithttp://www.genright.com/images/produ...f_MULTI_md.jpg
My next lift!!!!

MoA 04-28-2011 11:59 PM

for 400.. you can get JKS acos.. i love mine.. they are fully adjustable from 1.25-3.5'' of lift.. and im running acos with a jks 1'' bl & mml.. my acos are set at their minimum.. and im running a decent set of shocks and i love how my jeep is.. perfect for my 33x12.5'' tire.. although it is a little more expensive.. the acos are great for adjustments for heavier bumpers/winches.. however i am running procomp 2'' front coils that have sagged quite a bit and stock coils in the rear and my jeep sits level (tire distance to fender distance front and rear) dont like the way most kits have the wider gap in the rear than the front..

but IMO you should check out the OME 2.5'' kit or DPG offroads kits.. they are both nice kits

DAMSTR8 04-29-2011 12:56 AM

You might check into it, but if my memory serves me correct, the rubi springs add a 1" higher ride height. so if you are trying to get up further that should be accounted for when buying your lift. 3" will take you up 2" further due to you are not replacing a "stock" spring.

MoA 04-29-2011 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMSTR8 (Post 1209164)
You might check into it, but if my memory serves me correct, the rubi springs add a 1" higher ride height. so if you are trying to get up further that should be accounted for when buying your lift. 3" will take you up 2" further due to you are not replacing a "stock" spring.

nope.. rubi springs dont add any lift.. in fact.. my sahara had the same springs as the rubicons did.. 4.0 with hardtop.. they are just stiffer springs as far as i know.. i looked into the numbers on them a while ago..

UnlimitedLJ04 04-29-2011 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeMYJ (Post 1208814)
Save your money and wait to do it right.

x2.... and a MML/BL is a good foundation for later:punk:

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Originally Posted by MoA (Post 1209230)
nope.. rubi springs dont add any lift.. in fact.. my sahara had the same springs as the rubicons did.. 4.0 with hardtop.. they are just stiffer springs as far as i know.. i looked into the numbers on them a while ago..

x2...Rubi springs do NOT give any lift. They're the same exact springs used on many other models, depending on the configuration.

Griffmeister 04-29-2011 08:22 AM

Im in the same spot, I have about $400-500 to spend on a lift. Looking to get a 4" RC II kit. Is there anything else I need to purchase before installing this?

UnlimitedLJ04 04-29-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffmeister (Post 1209375)
Im in the same spot, I have about $400-500 to spend on a lift. Looking to get a 4" RC II kit. Is there anything else I need to purchase before installing this?

quadruple that, then'll we'll talk about a 4" lift.

RubyMax3388 04-29-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdrenalineJunky45 (Post 1208920)

WOW thats a really nice kit but 5500 without any options thats insane if I have a extra 5k I would hope to get more than just a lift kit out of it. Hell thats half of what i paid for my jeep.

Griffmeister 04-29-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 1209397)
quadruple that, then'll we'll talk about a 4" lift.

:rofl:

MoA 04-30-2011 04:39 AM

do not think that a cheap 4'' lift is the way to go.. most good kits for 3-4'' of lift will cost over a grand.. ive seen way too many people go the cheap route and regret it in the long run..

i originally went with the 2'' procomp lift.. damn near the same as the zone or rustys kit.. and regretted it within the first week of driving the damn thing around.. since then the only part left from the kit is just the front springs and EVERYTHING else has been added separately costing me a lot more than a well built kit that lets say OME, JKS, DPG, or a few other brands i can think of would offer

not to mention for a 4'' lift to be built right.. youll be needing a sye/ds with alone will run you 5-600$

49erFan 04-30-2011 10:48 AM

So why do some of you say that a 2.5" RC suspension lift is not "doing it right"? It looks like to "do it right" is to get an OME or DPG kit, which will cost around $700-$800 compared to my $300 RC lift. Why is the DPG/OME kit so much better? Is someone like me who is going to drive 95% on-road and only off-road a few times a year going to reap the benefits of the extra $400-$500?

SilverTJMike 04-30-2011 10:56 AM

I would say yes. Think about it. You are
messing with the factory jeep suspension, geometry, stability, etc. Factory spent a lot more time and money making the stock system work right and drive well.

To lift it you have to take some time as well. I need to trust my rokmen ome off the trail as well as on with worrying about it failing me at 70mph. Cheap things are fine if it's a trailered rig and you can fix and do not mind spending twice. I myself do not want to put another lift on after the first one :)

Arch Stanton 04-30-2011 10:57 AM

Bds
 
I've read a lot of good posts on the BDS lift. It's around $400. I'm considering that one as alternative to some of the more expensive lifts.

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Originally Posted by 49erFan (Post 1211426)
So why do some of you say that a 2.5" RC suspension lift is not "doing it right"? It looks like to "do it right" is to get an OME or DPG kit, which will cost around $700-$800 compared to my $300 RC lift. Why is the DPG/OME kit so much better? Is someone like me who is going to drive 95% on-road and only off-road a few times a year going to reap the benefits of the extra $400-$500?


KidRock171 04-30-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 49erFan
So why do some of you say that a 2.5" RC suspension lift is not "doing it right"? It looks like to "do it right" is to get an OME or DPG kit, which will cost around $700-$800 compared to my $300 RC lift. Why is the DPG/OME kit so much better? Is someone like me who is going to drive 95% on-road and only off-road a few times a year going to reap the benefits of the extra $400-$500?

Noone seems to know why they hate RC. Except they don't have bumpstops. Which are like 25 bucks.

MoA 04-30-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KidRock171 (Post 1211506)
Noone seems to know why they hate RC. Except they don't have bumpstops. Which are like 25 bucks.

rough ride, crappy quality.. theres plenty of reasons.. i never personally had a RC lift but ive ridden in jeeps that have as well as know people on here who had VERY bad experience with them..

procomp > rough country.. and procomp still isnt worth the hassle

Richd1963 05-01-2011 10:06 AM

The more time you are going to spend on the street is the reason to invest into a good quality lift. Cheapo lifts, equal terrible ride quality. The more ya spend, the better the ride quality. Don't waste your money on a cheap lift or you will be cussing yourself until you change it back. Why waste the money, especially if you are not going to use it. Just replace the tires and wait till you are really serious about it. You get what you paid for.

crikeyjeepturtles 05-05-2011 07:28 PM

I'll take your stock springs if your getting rid of them??

zeus8582 05-05-2011 08:20 PM

BDS is a great lift!!!! Good flex offroad, better than stock ride on the road....
2" SL/1" BL for 33's........ 2" SL with 32's...... :thumb:

hitman76 05-06-2011 02:16 PM

mine has a 4" pro comp lift (installed by PO) and im very happy with it. I wish it was about 2" taller but hey, its what was already on it and for now thats what i got. Rides nice on and off road. Even drove it from so Cal to Washington. Wasnt bad at all. Just my 2 cents on the ProComp SA lift.

wranglernut 05-06-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zeus8582
BDS is a great lift!!!! Good flex offroad, better than stock ride on the road....
2" SL/1" BL for 33's........ 2" SL with 32's...... :thumb:

That made me happy... Cause my 2" BDS SL arrived today! And I just got my Currie 1" BL installed the other day. Finally gonna be able to run 33's. Glad it's a good lift.

Mortalis5509 05-06-2011 06:17 PM

I have an RC lift and the ride doesn't bother me. I only had so much money and wasn't waiting till 1G showed up plus the cost of tires. My Rubi rides just fine IMO. I wasn't expecting it to ride like a benz so I'm happy.


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