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Devil Dog 05-03-2011 05:51 PM

A Word of Warning on Wheel Spacers
 
I was about to put spacers on my TJ. but prior to jumping into this decision, I called my friend who is general manager at a large tire outlet. I asked him his honest opinion on installing spacers on my jeep. He flat out said stay away from spacers unless you want extra wear on your front bearings and causing wheel aliegnment in need of unnessary repair to my front end. Just a word of warning to those thinking about placing spacers on their vehicle.

ESP 05-03-2011 05:53 PM

Spacers are completely safe if installed correctly, torqued to their correct specs and maintained properly.

Devil Dog 05-03-2011 06:17 PM

I can't argue with your comment as I am going what one person in the tire business warned me about. He also said that there is no advantage to the spacers other than they make the vehicle look great. This is why I posted this comment as I would like to know what others think about spacers.

IslandTJ 05-03-2011 06:20 PM

These are not recommended:

http://blackforestindustries.com/FSitems/spacerz.jpg

However, the adapters with studs have been run by many Jeepers (including myself) without issue.

http://image.4wdandsportutility.com/...el_spacers.jpg

doclouie 05-03-2011 06:26 PM

IslandTJ is absolutely correct. Too many people parrot what they are told without really understanding the physics behind what they are saying. I could go through the mathematical equations, but do not have the time right now.

i11m10c2 05-03-2011 06:57 PM

I think the problem is people are not being told the difference between the two types of spacers and why how the spacers with the studs transfer the rotating mass to the factory location.

A good example is the front wheel hub on a dually pick up

Austen 05-03-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by i11m10c2 (Post 1217870)
I think the problem is people are not being told the difference between the two types of spacers and why how the spacers with the studs transfer the rotating mass to the factory location.

A good example is the front wheel hub on a dually pick up



I agree, that hub is basically a spacer in a sense.

But what we have to understand to maintain a peaceful forum is that this is what we will always get here as long as we all do not agree on our preconceived and premade up opinions.

Everyone here has their own opinions, and they get offended when his opinion goes against her opinion. Let look at it like this:

Get your pop corn ready because this is going to be great :popcorn:

Six foot six inch tall Bob weighing 350lbs believes in carrying a .44 Magnum because his daddy told him a .44M is the only way to preserve his man hood.


Sue standing four foot nine inches and weighing in at 90lbs believes in carrying a .22 rim fire because that what her daddy taught her.


They walk up to each other in a reverse stand off. They draw each firing one shot. Bob falls to the ground a puddle of his own blood and urine because that big old .44 Magnum had so much recoil and Muzzle Whip he could not control it. Perhaps he should have stuck with something more manageable, and controllable and he would not be pushing up :flowers: right now.

Point of the story is just because He believed to be correct does not mean she was wrong. The proof is in the education. I was taught long ago to beware of forums because you can not believe everything you read on them. Yes there are people who give nothing but great advice, bad advice, and opinion.

I hope you all get my point. :angel:

Devil Dog 05-03-2011 08:26 PM

I appreciate all the feed back, but does the spacers mess with the wheel bearings and put the front end out of alienment. Second, what is the advantage with wheel spacers?

Austen 05-03-2011 08:33 PM

The wheel spacer is only for looks, I would argue that it also widens the length of your tire width (kind of like a longer wheel base but different direction.

I really want to put 1-1.5" Spacers on my Wranglenater but only the type with studs, for the very reason mentioned, just like in a dually pick up they are totally safe, effective and do not harm anything. It is the studs that make all the difference in the world of physics here.

Scoob 05-03-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Dog (Post 1218049)
I appreciate all the feed back, but does the spacers mess with the wheel bearings and put the front end out of alienment. Second, what is the advantage with wheel spacers?

Its not going to change the alignment. It will add stress to the ball joints.
The only advantage would be to run a wider tire. It would also be a little more stable.

jrussblues 05-03-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Dog
I appreciate all the feed back, but does the spacers mess with the wheel bearings and put the front end out of alienment. Second, what is the advantage with wheel spacers?

Any time you move the center of the wheel further away from the hub it can put more strain on your bearings. It is typically not recommended to use anything more or that would create more backspacing than 3.75" as for the types you should stay away from the washer type that are a flat piece of metal with holes. If you are going to use spacers you will be perfectly fine with the type that is thicker with wheel studs, given they are correctly installed. I had some and they were fine except for the fact that I didnt put lock tite on the vehicle wheel studs when I mounted the spacers and they started to back off and sheared a lug, and could've lost a tire if I was at hwy speeds. Again installed correctly is the key. I like the jeep factory rims and would do it again, but my tires wouldn't work with a spacer now.

Wrangler06 05-03-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Dog (Post 1218049)
I appreciate all the feed back, but does the spacers mess with the wheel bearings and put the front end out of alienment. Second, what is the advantage with wheel spacers?

you can run wider tires on stock wheels

tomslusher 05-03-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Dog (Post 1217821)
He also said that there is no advantage to the spacers other than they make the vehicle look great.

I would have to disagree with this statement. Although I am no expert, I would think they help in the mud and snow and even dirt. If they are installed on either the fronts or back only you will get a big advantage. When you start spinning your wheels and digging, your rear wheels are not just following the rut made by the front tires.

If I remember right, some old Fords or Dodges came from the factory with different width. But people thought it looked goofy so they stopped. But that could be a load of crap someone told me too, who knows.

tomslusher

jrussblues 05-03-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tomslusher

I would have to disagree with this statement. Although I am no expert, I would think they help in the mud and snow and even dirt. If they are installed on either the fronts or back only you will get a big advantage. When you start spinning your wheels and digging, your rear wheels are not just following the rut made by the front tires.

If I remember right, some old Fords or Dodges came from the factory with different width. But people thought it looked goofy so they stopped. But that could be a load of crap someone told me too, who knows.

tomslusher

The bigger advantage for jeeps is that if you go taller so does your center of gravity, putting your wheels further out will lower your cog more and create more stability whether its off camber wheeling or just standard cornering while driving.

KBR97 05-03-2011 09:35 PM

:deadhorse:

Threads about wheels spacers are almost getting as old as threads about JK's and there credibility of being real Jeeps...

4 Jeep Family 05-03-2011 09:47 PM

Anytime you move the wheel out further it puts stress on the wheel bearings. It doesn't matter if it's spacers or an offset wheel. It's a matter of give and take.

4 Jeep Family 05-03-2011 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KBR97 (Post 1218206)
:deadhorse:

Threads about wheels spacers are almost getting as old as threads about JK's and there credibility of being real Jeeps...

Your right but if they doubt JKs they need to see the videos on you-tube. JK out perform the others when it come to going up the steep rocks.

jrussblues 05-03-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4 Jeep Family (Post 1218238)
Your right but if they doubt JKs they need to see the videos on you-tube. JK out perform the others when it come to going up the steep rocks.

And picking up groceries, not waving, being feminine in general and feeling like minivans. Also great categories to outperform ti's. Get an lj...best of both worlds.

Had to instigate...jks are actually great off road. Especially when you compare a tj to an jk right out of the box.

KBR97 05-04-2011 09:20 AM

:pop: muahahahahaaaa....

Devil Dog 05-04-2011 09:57 AM

Thanks for all the feed back. My conclusions are that there are pro's and con's to my question and is up to the Jeep owner to weigh all options. Thanks Again!!!!!

POS YJ 05-04-2011 10:04 AM

They add more stress to the ball joints, plain and simple. Something about leverage, pretty simple if you think about it. The same can be said for different offset wheels, larger tires, blah, blah, blah.

Jerry Bransford 05-04-2011 10:04 AM

I'm no fan of wheel spacers. That said, installing a 1" wheel spacer puts the same amount of additional load on the unit-bearing hub as replacing the factory wheel with 5.5" of backspacing with a wheel that has 4.5" of backspacing. Both move the tire and wheel assembly outwards by 1".

Bone 05-04-2011 10:06 AM

:include:

snwchris 05-05-2011 06:50 AM

Putting bigger tires on your Jeep causes pretty much all the same issues and premature wear as well that everyone has listed, hub assembly/bearing, ball joints, etc... its all part of upgrading & modifing the Jeep and doing routine maintenance on your Jeep.

clull05rubi 02-13-2014 09:21 PM

Only the 4door 40" tire jkus climb big stuff better and its cuz their wheel base. Stretch a tj and it will do the same thing but also have a better approach/dep angle depending on if u stretch the front and/or rear

SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 02-13-2014 10:47 PM

I put 1.5 wheel spacers on mine so that when I turn I don't rub with my 31's on stock suspension.

BLZ 02-13-2014 11:21 PM

Ran spacers on three of my big built toyotas.knew a ton of guys that ran them also.no issues.buy quality and torque properly..no probs..

jeepwayoflife 02-14-2014 12:20 AM

Around 20k on my friends JK on 33's with no problems on 1.5" spacers.


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