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JIMBOX 05-08-2011 01:01 PM

Last 5.38/ diff. gear update
 
:whistling: Well, it should be the last-

I've maintained a strict 20/40 mile runs/w 1 hr cooldown and now I'm almost halfway thru the 500 mile breakin edict, from YUKON-

Just filled up at 10,551 miles, after 40 mile run at 25/35/45 and 65 mph, 189.7 miles---took 11.32 gals ( tank), for avg of 16.93 mpg

Front diff-cool/rear diff at 251 F and auto tranny steady at 135 for the duration

Keepyerpowderdry-

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

joe002 05-08-2011 01:09 PM

Looking good.

I wrote down all of my front/rear diff temps when I was breaking it in, but I cant find it now. :rolleyes:

I measured my rear yesterday after driving on the freeway with the ambient temp at 102 I was 185. Im still shopping around for my auto temp. :whistling:

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 01:19 PM

:D Yea, thanx joe-


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Originally Posted by joe002 (Post 1226730)
Looking good.

I wrote down all of my front/rear diff temps when I was breaking it in, but I cant find it now. :rolleyes:

I measured my rear yesterday after driving on the freeway with the ambient temp at 102 I was 185. Im still shopping around for my auto temp. :whistling:

Amsoil has studies of field/lab/dyno tests and has recorded 370F "breakin" temps-under load and 230 was the avg op temp for the rear diff-"breakin" temps under "normal" ops and about 200F "normAL" ops for the "BROKEIN" diff. !!

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

baytownbert 05-08-2011 03:56 PM

I'm wondering about Amsoil (or equiv) temps in the pumpkins over dino oils. Which are you running, or do you plan to run?

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 04:12 PM

:D I don't blame you for thinking AMSOIL-they're right at the top synthetic and I would use them, but


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Originally Posted by baytownbert (Post 1226983)
I'm wondering about Amsoil (or equiv) temps in the pumpkins over dino oils. Which are you running, or do you plan to run?

I had been using Mobile 1 75W-140 and YUKON/ORI (Reno) said, to maintain their warranty, to use Valvoline syn -

They have Valvoline "severe" 75W-90 syn in there, along with an abrasive/polymer additive, for heat and molecular changes, untill my 500 miles and they have agreed for me to replace it with Valvoline 75W-140 ext. syn--

So dat don't leave me with much choice !!

I've also been told to use the latest Valvoline Palladium-multi-purpose HD/HT grease for the Synergy Ball Joints-

Damn jeeps costing some money !!

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

joe002 05-08-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1226745)
and about 200F "normAL" ops for the "BROKEIN" diff...

Guess since I saw 185F at 102F ambient I'm broken in good. :D I do remember the temps coming down, but unfortunately I seem to have lost my record sheet. :nonono:


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Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1227008)
...to maintain their warranty, to use Valvoline syn ...


Yeah, I've done a little research on gear oil, and you want to look for an oil that specifies that it meets or exceeds (not simply recommended for, or can be used with, etc.) API GL-5 (easy to do), and MT-1 and SAE J2360 (harder to find). Valvoline 75w-90 Synthetic does.

baytownbert 05-08-2011 04:51 PM

Are y'all using a heat gun to read these diff temps, or sticking a thermometer in the plug hole?

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 04:56 PM

:whistling: Hell, I'm spending a lot more for gas than I have for oil/grease-breaking these things in !!


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Originally Posted by joe002 (Post 1227035)
Guess since I saw 185F at 102F ambient I'm broken in good. :D I do remember the temps coming down, but unfortunately I seem to have lost my record sheet. :nonono:



Yeah, I've done a little research on gear oil, and you want to look for an oil that specifies that it meets or exceeds (not simply recommended for, or can be used with, etc.) API GL-5 (easy to do), and MT-1 and SAE J2360 (harder to find). Valvoline 75w-90 Synthetic does.

The front diff, doesn't get any wear (relatively) because it's being "worn" bassackward--IE: the ring is wearing the pinion, instead of visyversy-

They told me to get a couple hundred miles onem then do some light "LEVL" 4wd (4hi) to "assist" the front diff breakin---soon

You're right if your at 185 "normal", ops--thats GOODO !!

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 05:00 PM

:D Na, I don't have an infrared thermo, so I'm using a digital "contact" thermo, measured at the Shielded bottom of the pumpkin, where the oil sits-


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Originally Posted by baytownbert (Post 1227049)
Are y'all using a heat gun to read these diff temps, or sticking a thermometer in the plug hole?

It drops temp FAST, but also rises FAST-

Tonsafun !

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

joe002 05-08-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baytownbert (Post 1227049)
Are y'all using a heat gun to read these diff temps, or sticking a thermometer in the plug hole?

Im using an IR gun - I use it to work on the A/C in my house.

GREEN-MACHINE 05-08-2011 08:20 PM

jimbox, was wondering what size tires and what rpm at 70 mph,, if i missed it one of your post, im sorry

joe002 05-08-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GREEN-MACHINE (Post 1227345)
jimbox, was wondering what size tires and what rpm at 70 mph,, if i missed it one of your post, im sorry


FYI - my data point as Jim has different tires then me - I'm running KM2 35s with 5.38s and am at 2,550 at 70 mph with O/D On.

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 08:35 PM

:D Heh heh, we're all within 100 rpm--


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Originally Posted by GREEN-MACHINE (Post 1227345)
jimbox, was wondering what size tires and what rpm at 70 mph,, if i missed it one of your post, im sorry

I've got LT295/75x16 Hankook Dynapro MTs and they're 33.2" at 30 psi--2600 rpm at 70-O/D

:dance::rofl JIMBO

joe002 05-08-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1227384)
:D Heh heh, we're all within 100 rpm--




I've got LT295/75x16 Hankook Dynapro MTs and they're 33.2" at 30 psi--2600 rpm at 70-O/D

:dance::rofl JIMBO

Did you already recalibrate your speedo and gears with your ProCal? I would have thought you would be higher than that...

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 09:00 PM

:D Yea, I've recal'd the speedo, but I may be off the tire height, because of Desert temps and


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Originally Posted by joe002 (Post 1227418)
Did you already recalibrate your speedo and gears with your ProCal? I would have thought you would be higher than that...

It may have read 2650 rpm, as I was "PASSING THRUIT"

Heh Heh, hard to tell, but the amazing thing is the feeling of power, that was never there before and when you putit in "D"-O/D-thats where it stays-doesn't downshift, even for hills--KEWL

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

joe002 05-08-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 1227451)
:D Yea, I've recal'd the speedo, but I may be off the tire height, because of Desert temps and




It may have read 2650 rpm, as I was "PASSING THRUIT"

Heh Heh, hard to tell, but the amazing thing is the feeling of power, that was never there before and when you putit in "D"-O/D-thats where it stays-doesn't downshift, even for hills--KEWL

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

Yeah, you may want to check it with a GPS.

More Power! :D

GREEN-MACHINE 05-08-2011 09:09 PM

thanks guys,, looks like i'll stick to my origanly plans 35's with 4.88.

JIMBOX 05-08-2011 09:12 PM

:D I figured that was the diff-you're reading a GPS and I'm lookin at the dash tach-no way to interpolate between the 500 rpm jumps !!


Quote:

Originally Posted by joe002 (Post 1227462)
Yeah, you may want to check it with a GPS.

More Power! :D

It's a guesstimate !

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

rics1997 05-08-2011 09:13 PM

I running 285/70/17 MTR's (32.71") at 35psi (set computer to 31.75 to correct speed to GPS)

At 70 mph auto in O/D, with the new 4.88 Yukon gears, RPM's are around 2550


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