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Darth Vader 05-12-2011 12:02 AM

97 TJ, Bad Turn Switch
 
Hi,

My turn switch has been acting up forever. When I got the Jeep, the left turn signal wouldn't automatically shut itself off after you straighten the wheel. Then a few months later, when I went to turn right, I heard a loud snap when I turned the switch, and then that signal wouldn't automatically shut off either. Now the left turn signal doesn't flash right, often the light will turn solid and I then have to jiggle the switch slightly in order to get it working again. Just today I scored a switch from a dead Cherokee, only to find after installing that it was completely dead, upon plugging it in I found that neither turn signal would light up, not even the emergency light switch worked. Even still, with the new one installed, when turning the wheel, the switch itself would not automatically turn itself off. So because of this, am I dealing with a steering column problem? If so, will that, or the turn signal be repairable? I can't afford the 40 bucks or so for a new switch, and I certainly can't afford a column replacement, otherwise I would do so.

Shelby427 05-12-2011 07:27 AM

Pretty simple switch, and they fail like all get out. Willing to bet the used one you got was bad before you got it. There is a little white tang that sticks out of the switch that the steering shaft hits to cancel the switch. See if yours might have broken off and got stuck down inside.

And most likely you should spend the bucks for a new switch. A used one is a gamble at best.


Also check your fuses, you may have blown one or more while installing the second switch.

JamesHolmes 05-12-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vader (Post 1234470)
Hi,

My turn switch has been acting up forever. When I got the Jeep, the left turn signal wouldn't automatically shut itself off after you straighten the wheel. Then a few months later, when I went to turn right, I heard a loud snap when I turned the switch, and then that signal wouldn't automatically shut off either. Now the left turn signal doesn't flash right, often the light will turn solid and I then have to jiggle the switch slightly in order to get it working again. Just today I scored a switch from a dead Cherokee, only to find after installing that it was completely dead, upon plugging it in I found that neither turn signal would light up, not even the emergency light switch worked. Even still, with the new one installed, when turning the wheel, the switch itself would not automatically turn itself off. So because of this, am I dealing with a steering column problem? If so, will that, or the turn signal be repairable? I can't afford the 40 bucks or so for a new switch, and I certainly can't afford a column replacement, otherwise I would do so.




My 97 left turn auto cancel, Same thing. Now and then when I turn right the switch won't go up. Move the wheel a little and it goes. the left I don't mind so much. I drive with one hand. so when I bring the wheel back to centre I just stick out a finger, it hits the switch and shuts it off. Been doing this for five months. I really had not even thought about it. It wasn't even on my to-do list. Well it is now. Now that it has been brought to my attention. Hmmmm, the things you learn to live with.

JamesHolmes 05-12-2011 08:02 AM

Does the cherokee use the same switch as a TJ?
Sorry just did a double shift, missed that part first time around.

Jollyczar 05-12-2011 08:45 AM

Sounds to me like it's your clock spring.

Darth Vader 05-12-2011 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelby427 (Post 1234743)
Pretty simple switch, and they fail like all get out. Willing to bet the used one you got was bad before you got it. There is a little white tang that sticks out of the switch that the steering shaft hits to cancel the switch. See if yours might have broken off and got stuck down inside.

And most likely you should spend the bucks for a new switch. A used one is a gamble at best.


Also check your fuses, you may have blown one or more while installing the second switch.

With the plastic shroud off, I unplugged the new switch and plugged the old one back in and the signals worked fine again. I plugged the new one in again to make sure it was bad. They both have the white tang sticking out. Isn't there some sort of tab that's supposed to be on the steering column? The part where the steering column meets the switch looked completely cylindrical.

Darth Vader 05-12-2011 05:59 PM

I've been googling around and I'm becoming quite certain my problem is the "cam spring" attached to the steering column. Where can I find one of these, how expensive would it be to have the dealership replace it, and is it possible to replace on my own?

geiman 05-13-2011 09:36 AM

I'm not sure about your cam spring, but if I was you I'd spend the $45 to get a new switch and see if that fixes your problem. If it doesn't then you can take it back and get your money back. At least then you would be able to narrow your problem down, right now you're just shooting in the dark. I'm sure having your dealer even look at your Jeep will set you back more than a new turn signal switch would.

Shelby427 05-13-2011 04:03 PM

The cam is less then $15.00, just google jeep wrangler steering cam.

You should be able to look in the hole the tongue on the switch goes into to see if the cam is moving as you turn the wheel, and if it's broken.

And NO, unless you have the tools and know how I wouldn't suggest it on your own.
You got the airbag first to deal with, and secondly there is a spring loaded plate that has to be removed to get to the cam. With out the tool for doing it, it is a real bugger getting the ring off to remove the plate and getting it back on isn't fun either.

Darth Vader 05-13-2011 04:04 PM

I'll try the switch, to be sure, but I dont think its the issue.

I called the dealership just now and was told that the canceling cam/cam spring is part of the clock spring?? They wanted 250 dollars for the part LOL....anyway, I thought that was more of an electrical thing?

Thanks for the info Shelby. I'm having difficulty finding the part at auto parts stores anyway. Guess I'll have to break down and take her to the mechanic for this one.

rda616 05-13-2011 04:25 PM

Why not get the clock spring out of the xj you got the turn signal out of.


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