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Clutch127 05-17-2011 06:00 PM

Winch on stock bumper?
 
Im wondering if you can mount a winch on the stock JK bumper or would i have to buy an aftermarket steel one? If i can mount one, what would be the best in the 8,000-10,000 lbs range?

country.boy 05-17-2011 06:24 PM

Yeah you can, I bought mine with a winch mounted on the stock bumper. It just requires some cutting to put the winch mount on it.

BADBOY-RUBICON 05-17-2011 06:40 PM

There is a nice thread with pics of someone who did it....look in 'search'

JPWheelin 05-17-2011 06:51 PM

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/my-...nch-87776.html

Clutch127 05-17-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by country.boy (Post 1245899)
Yeah you can, I bought mine with a winch mounted on the stock bumper. It just requires some cutting to put the winch mount on it.

do you happen to have a picture or 2? Is it on the outside?


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Originally Posted by JPWheelin (Post 1245948)

Thats a great idea! Thanks for the link.

BlackedOutYJ 05-17-2011 07:34 PM

8,000 should be plenty. Why spend the extra money for a 10k when all you would need is 8K, you would probably rip your jeep in half before you would actually pull 10K.

country.boy 05-17-2011 07:48 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Attachment 49758
Attachment 49759
Attachment 49760

Hope this helps.

Clutch127 05-17-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutYJ
8,000 should be plenty. Why spend the extra money for a 10k when all you would need is 8K, you would probably rip your jeep in half before you would actually pull 10K.

Haha that's very true! Thanks

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Originally Posted by country.boy
Hope this helps.

Awesome!! That really helps, thanks for the pictures :thumb: I think that is going to be my first mod, seeing how everything else is 2x expensive and in NC there are a lot of places to get stuck...

arrowhead 05-18-2011 03:32 PM

Rough Country has a mount that bolts on. You don't have to cut anything.

Clutch127 05-18-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowhead (Post 1247933)
Rough Country has a mount that bolts on. You don't have to cut anything.

Awesome, thanks!

kmccon 05-18-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowhead (Post 1247933)
Rough Country has a mount that bolts on. You don't have to cut anything.

I just put one of these on last weekend.. 2-3 hours and no cutting. I like that I could put it back to stock easily if I wanted to. Looks pretty good too!
:thumb:

jk'n 05-18-2011 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowhead (Post 1247933)
Rough Country has a mount that bolts on. You don't have to cut anything.

Got a link to the one you bolted on?

2010WranglerMountain 05-19-2011 12:15 AM

here's mine...this is the winch plate I used everything worked great and it's strong as hell :thumb:http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...8&d=1303553566http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...9&d=1303554070http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...7&d=1303552376http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...6&d=1303498653

SeaComms 05-19-2011 05:15 AM

Whilst an 8000lb will do fine, a 10,000 will usually pull you out faster (all things being equal) as its not working as hard.

Also depends on how often you plan to use it (as in just in case one day, or several hours at a time every trip) and how many of your mates not in Jeeps you have to pull out :)

2010WranglerMountain 05-19-2011 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by country.boy (Post 1246082)

You from around Harrison?

Clutch127 05-19-2011 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010WranglerMountain
here's mine...this is the winch plate I used everything worked great and it's strong as hell :thumb:

How long was your install time? 2-3 hours seem right according to kmccom.

jk'n 05-19-2011 06:22 AM

2010WranglerMountain,

That looks awesome! :appl:

Thanks for the pictures and the link. I'm still torn between stealth (hidden in bumper) and your type of installation. I do like the look of that trophy sitting there. After all, if you are going to spend a good chunk of change for something so useful why would you want to hide it? That, by the way, was a rhetorical question...I know most of the standard answers. :dance:

Thanks to the participants of threads like this for the inspiration. This is on my definite to-do-list.

2010WranglerMountain 05-19-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Clutch127 (Post 1249356)
How long was your install time? 2-3 hours seem right according to kmccom.

if you do everything right the first time then that's probably right...I did some stuff kind of a$$ backwards so I had to re-do it....but it wasn't bad...here's the link to my write up

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1249357)
2010WranglerMountain,

That looks awesome! :appl:

Thanks for the pictures and the link. I'm still torn between stealth (hidden in bumper) and your type of installation. I do like the look of that trophy sitting there. After all, if you are going to spend a good chunk of change for something so useful why would you want to hide it? That, by the way, was a rhetorical question...I know most of the standard answers. :dance:

Thanks to the participants of threads like this for the inspiration. This is on my definite to-do-list.

That was my thinking...I got a winch and I kinda like to show it off :whistling:

country.boy 05-19-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010WranglerMountain (Post 1249332)
You from around Harrison?

Im about an hour south

2010WranglerMountain 05-19-2011 10:02 AM

Marshall?

Mountain_Goat 05-19-2011 10:30 AM

Mine

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1988773_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6123241_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._8142721_n.jpg

sharkbite 05-19-2011 06:40 PM

mine

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_0220.jpg

http://my.project-jk.com/data/503/medium/jeep_0029.jpg

Clutch127 05-19-2011 09:19 PM

These are awesome! Thanks so much for all your input! I really like the "exposed" method as to the "hidden" on...like it was said, you gotta show it off :thumb:

jk'n 05-20-2011 08:41 AM

Quick update since yesterday. I got a 12K lb badland winch from harbor freight, the Tim Allen model for cheap...had to start somewhere. I figure a strong winch with relative low load ought to last long, even if it is a cheap model. I ordered the Rugged Ridge bumper mount with D rings. This system will at least "get me in the door" with respect to having the equipment vs. not having it. Then, as time goes on, I can refine it. Maybe get an aftermarket bumper and better winch. Thanks for all of the help and "getting me over the hump" on getting started. I'll post as I get this up and running.

meanmna 05-20-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010WranglerMountain (Post 1249189)
here's mine...this is the winch plate I used everything worked great and it's strong as hell :thumb:

It looks like you may have had to do some cutting in the pictures. Did you or was that just me making something up?

Also looks like you can keep the factory tow hooks. That seems like a plus from the rough country and rugged ridge plates.

jk'n 05-20-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmna (Post 1251781)
It looks like you may have had to do some cutting in the pictures. Did you or was that just me making something up?

Also looks like you can keep the factory tow hooks. That seems like a plus from the rough country and rugged ridge plates.

I meant to say I got the rough country mount with D rings.

This one doesn't keep the factory tow hooks but substitutes the rings. It also uses the through bumper mounting position of the hooks for additional support of the winch plate once the hooks are removed. All of the assembly shows no cutting of any metal parts. If you don't have tow hooks, you have to cut the plastic cover of the bumper to allow for the tow hook mounting position supports through the bumper cover so that the winch plate can bolt to it.

meanmna 05-20-2011 02:02 PM

Thanks JK'n but I was wondering specifically about the model that Mountain Goat used. It appears that it works WITH the stock tow hooks.

If I can get that I think I will go that route. If not, I think the RC with the D rings.

2010WranglerMountain 05-20-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmna (Post 1251781)
It looks like you may have had to do some cutting in the pictures. Did you or was that just me making something up?

Also looks like you can keep the factory tow hooks. That seems like a plus from the rough country and rugged ridge plates.

You have to cut a notch outta the metal inner bumper (was easy to use a hack saw) then you have to cut a slot on top of the plastic outer bumper. I used a dremmel tool and did small cuts over and over till it fit....the winch plate has a lip over it so you can't even see where you have to cut. :thumb: and you do keep the factory tow hooks.

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Originally Posted by meanmna (Post 1252025)
Thanks JK'n but I was wondering specifically about the model that Mountain Goat used.

"Mountain Goat"?:confused:

jk'n 05-20-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmna (Post 1252025)
Thanks JK'n but I was wondering specifically about the model that Mountain Goat used. It appears that it works WITH the stock tow hooks.

If I can get that I think I will go that route. If not, I think the RC with the D rings.

Hehe, Mountain Goat ya, I'm pretty sure you were referring to 2010WranglerMountain. :D Just to let you know, I started out thinking his looked pretty cool. I followed his link and did some reading. Saw the fabrication that he had to do. On the same link that 2010WranglerMountain gave me (thanks again) they had the RC winch plate. I downloaded the manual. I discovered that for almost twice the price, I could save myself from having to cut up the bumper and or plastic cover. The other thing was that the mounting being spread out like the RC was I figured it was pretty secure (torsion over a greater distance = less force on the mounting hardware during a heavy pull load). I liked the idea of D rings over the hooks. I have always been concerned about the squareness of the hooks and their effect on tow straps. The D rings are much more secure and not a chance of the tow strap accidentally coming off. So I went with that. Thought I would post my selection for others trying to make the choice. I also did some shopping to make sure that the company that 2010WranglerMountain linked to had a price in the ball park. I couldn't find any cheaper. The one place that I thought I found cheaper, when I read the fine print, there was a check box to check to include the D rings in the purchase and when checked, it brought the price up to the same. There was no shipping costs but there was a small handling fee. Still the price with the handling fee was cheaper than the other sites that I checked.

It looks like I'm going to be adding about 110 to 120 lbs to the front bumper. The shipping weight on the winch was just under 100 lbs (97) and I'm guessing that the winch plate will weigh in at about 15 to 20 lbs. That's like having a small wench sitting on the bumper. I hope she's worth the price of admission. :dance:

Clutch127 05-20-2011 11:03 PM

So if I'm not mistaken, since I dont want to cut the plastic factory bumper, I should get the RC winch plate? I would be able to mount, say a smittybilt XRC8 8,000 lbs winch on said plate?


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