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DangerousJordan 06-08-2011 11:36 PM

Check engine light ruining my life
 
Check engine light is ruining my life in a very unconventional manner... my car just passed emissions but in the state of california the check engine light must be working to pass smog, and mine will not come on. When I turn my car on none of the dash lights come on and go off like they should. the 4wd light, blinkers and seat belt light work regularly. I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this or knows what to do. Btw mine's a 1990 4 cyl 5 spd with 98k on the clock.

Thanks guys,

Jordan

Hemi YJ 06-09-2011 12:49 AM

Just move back to America. It's probably a ground or old wire issues. Your just going to have to look...forever. Needle it a hay stack probably.

Glenn91YJ 06-09-2011 08:29 AM

I would pull the cluster and make sure the bulb is there and is good before I'd go crazy. I pulled my shift indicator bulb because I was sick of seeing it. It's easy and quick to check.

seelye 06-09-2011 08:49 AM

what a twisted world,,you can smoke weed legally,but if your check engine light "dont" come on,your in trouble...hmmm..

from here on out you'll be a "running man"

DangerousJordan 06-09-2011 09:36 PM

well the weed thing is kinda grey.. it's still considered a federal offense :S

What lights are supposed to be coming on when i turn my jeep on? all i'm getting is my seatbelt light until i put it on.

seelye 06-09-2011 10:08 PM

should be a bunch.
oil,srs,brake,seatbelt,...i think more but not sure what ones.

rmburwell 06-09-2011 10:15 PM

i know on some cars there is a fuse for a cigar lighter, which believe me or not also does your obd connector. at my shop we had a guy that his obd 2 connector wasnt working right.. new fuse for the cigar lighter and wala lol

may help i hope
good luck !

Tyewilly 06-10-2011 01:26 AM

The only lights that should come on with the key are cel, shift arrow, and seat belt. Cel and arrow should light for a couple seconds then go out. Seat belt will last a bit longer and may not light if you just turned the key off. I'd definitely check the bulb and make sure it's not burnt out.

DangerousJordan 06-13-2011 02:51 AM

i'll be checking bulbs tomorrow, but i'm not even getting the shift arrow right now, any chance these are related?

DangerousJordan 06-13-2011 01:36 PM

well i pulled the cover off and there were no bulbs where the emiss control (CHECK ENGINE??) or the shift arrow were. i tried puttubg my left blinker bulb in the check engine light and it still wouldnt come on... any thoughts?

C.L. 06-13-2011 01:48 PM

Stick a little LED flashlight behind the dash and wire it to the dome light! They'll never know the difference.

DangerousJordan 06-13-2011 04:58 PM

i like that idea, but then it will only come on when the door is open

Xpress 06-13-2011 07:32 PM

You need the check engine light to pass smog????

Since when?? Mine doesn't even have a bulb in it, and they pass my Jeep without even marking it.

C.L. 06-13-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerousJordan (Post 1303384)
i like that idea, but then it will only come on when the door is open

They only check to see if the light comes on when you first start it. Doesn't the dome light flick on when you first turn the ignition? If not, i'm sure something does; tap into that.

Tony 76 06-14-2011 07:28 AM

Take your 4 wheel drive socket if it fits in your check engine spot just To pass I think all those sockets are the same it should twist in.

DangerousJordan 06-16-2011 12:38 AM

its not the socket, i have all working bulbes in there sockets in their correct places and all i get is my seat belt, the shift arrow plain doesnt work when i'm driving or when i start or turn to on position, along with my emiss control... this is definitely not fun any more. does any one out there love electrical problems and live in the sacramento area?? lolz...

Tony 76 06-16-2011 07:27 AM

No what I meant was if the wires are long enough. You said your 4x4 light comes on and off when You start the jeep right. Take that socket with the wires still hooked up from the 4x4 and put it in the spot you need to light up so when you turn vehicle on it will look like the engine lite comes on and off even though it's really the 4x4 light. Hope you understand what I mean.

seelye 06-16-2011 08:00 AM

post a thread called "help in sacremento"
you need that stuff fixed,wish u lived on the eastcoast,id help u out but without looking i can do nothing,but im sure someone on here would be willing to help you out.

seelye 06-16-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Xpress (Post 1303678)
You need the check engine light to pass smog????

Since when?? Mine doesn't even have a bulb in it, and they pass my Jeep without even marking it.

not sure where u are located but every state has different emissions laws and regulations..including interior lights working for this.

Undead-89 06-16-2011 02:45 PM

On my 89 Jeep the only light that turns on when I start it is the seat belt light and the parking brake if it is set.

It is possible these were never meant to all turn on when you start it and it might be a later model thing and the emissions guy is confused.

Undead-89 06-16-2011 02:59 PM

Okay, i looked at the schematics. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for your emissions light to turn on when the car is started because they only wired it to the emissions timer. The only reason it would turn on is if your timer had passed the due date.

The Brake switch should only come on if the brake is set.
The 4wd indicator will only come on if the 4wd is engaged.
You don't have a check engine light.
I think the upshift switch is only used in 2.5's because mine was never wired up from the factory.

Whoever is doing your emissions check must not be as old as your Jeep because your Jeep would have to have more computer controls for that stuff to happen.

ed-de 06-16-2011 03:03 PM

mabye its mad because you called it a car :whistling: I joke:flowers:

DangerousJordan 06-17-2011 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undead-89 (Post 1310718)
Okay, i looked at the schematics. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for your emissions light to turn on when the car is started because they only wired it to the emissions timer. The only reason it would turn on is if your timer had passed the due date.

The Brake switch should only come on if the brake is set.
The 4wd indicator will only come on if the 4wd is engaged.
You don't have a check engine light.
I think the upshift switch is only used in 2.5's because mine was never wired up from the factory.

Whoever is doing your emissions check must not be as old as your Jeep because your Jeep would have to have more computer controls for that stuff to happen.

one thousand thank-yous. it turns out that it's OBD exempt, i confirmed at the dealer ship than took it back and the guy apoplogized, gave me my money back and smogged it. you saved me endless headaches, thanks for everyones contributions.

Jordan

Undead-89 06-17-2011 11:17 PM

Glad it worked out for you. We would hate for you to be grounded from your Jeep because of someone else's ignorance.

Even if you did call it a car...

DangerousJordan 06-18-2011 02:24 PM

hahaha JEEP****


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