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jcollins 06-23-2011 12:34 PM

Why do you disconnect sway bar while offroading
 
And how hard is it to do.. Thanks

whuffmon 06-23-2011 12:36 PM

More flexibility in suspension I think. I have never done it but I hear it is really easy. Like a 5 min or less job.

jcollins 06-23-2011 12:40 PM

What's the reason for not always having it disconnected then

whuffmon 06-23-2011 12:44 PM

It provides stability when driving on road. Huge difference in vehicle stability needs on and off road.

jcollins 06-23-2011 12:45 PM

Thanks very much

whuffmon 06-23-2011 12:47 PM

Your welcome. Double check me though as I am not a suspension expert.

desertgoose 06-23-2011 12:58 PM

You disconnect the swaybar for articulation when rock crawling. Never drive on road or higher speed with these disconnected as you will lose all stability. I've been told not to bother by someone who has been rock crawling for many years unless you have the clearance for the wheels and need it for gnarly rock crawling.

jk'n 06-23-2011 01:08 PM

I looked at your profile and see that you have the sport. That doesn't come stock with sway bar disconnect. The Rubicon comes with remote operated sway bar disconnect. Manual disconnect can be installed or you may consider one of the remote kits if you need that capability. When I go off road and the trail that is planned is gnarly, I disconnect going off road and re-connect going back on road. On some of the trails that I have been on there is a lot of vertical and lots of rocks in general. But that's New England for you.

Disconnecting the sway bar allows the axle to be at a pretty good angle and not throw the body over. It allows the wheels to flex pretty good. You will see pictures of folks on rocks in the forums with one wheel way up and the other way down. That is the result of the sway bar being disconnected. It allows the tires to stay in contact with the terrain.

MTH 06-23-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1326264)
I looked at your profile and see that you have the sport. That doesn't come stock with sway bar disconnect. The Rubicon comes with remote operated sway bar disconnect. Manual disconnect can be installed or you may consider one of the remote kits if you need that capability.

To be clear though, while your Rubicon has an electronic push-button sway bar disconnect, the Sport will allow for manually disconnecting the sway bar. It's very easy. Two wrenches, or a socket and a wrench, is all that's required. Simple.

That said, I've never bothered for the trail-type riding I do. I don't need the extra articulation.

ed0985587 06-23-2011 01:46 PM

The elec disconnect is one reason I wanted the Rubicon but I hear if you have to fit the electric system it gets pricey....so I stuck with my sport.

thewasel 06-23-2011 02:08 PM

As stated above, disconnecting the sway bar is very easy on the sport. If you have enough aptitude to change a tire, you can disconnect the sway bar. While it is typically known as something for the "rock crawlers", it is a good idea to do it if you are heading down any gnarly trails. It can be the difference between two front tires on the ground vs. one front tire...and one front tire on the ground means the front axle is useless for forward motion.

deathphoenix99 06-23-2011 02:24 PM

I'm not saying to disconnect it on road use, but many vehicles use to come without them, and I see a lot of people now that disconnect them for good. If you disconnect it, your Jeep will "roll" a lot more on turns and is more prone to rolling over. So only do it at slow speeds, as it's for your safety.

Hilldweller 06-23-2011 02:26 PM

Everything said was true; a disconnected antiswaybar will allow lots of articulation.

My Power Wagon has e-disco as does the Rubi in this video. The two Toyota products don't and have independant front suspensions. Watch the front wheels/tires of these 4 trucks as they negotiate this snotty road
The idea is to keep as much rubber in contact with the ground as much as possible.

YouTube - ‪Nick's.Birthday.2011.MOV‬‏

HillbillyJeeper 06-23-2011 09:06 PM

Nice

bbrown626 06-23-2011 11:17 PM

I have to disagree with the post that says it is for rock crawling. If you haven't disconnected your sway bar then give it a try on ANY trail and you will see a difference. Swaybars are for cornering on flat surfaces. With the bar connected a bump on either tire will compress both springs, giving you a harsh ride. With the sway bar disconnected the individual spring is compressed so you get a much softer ride. Give it a try. It will be well worth your effort and you will run out and gets some quick disconnects for future use.

jk'n 06-23-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bbrown626 (Post 1327688)
I have to disagree with the post that says it is for rock crawling. If you haven't disconnected your sway bar then give it a try on ANY trail and you will see a difference. Swaybars are for cornering on flat surfaces. With the bar connected a bump on either tire will compress both springs, giving you a harsh ride. With the sway bar disconnected the individual spring is compressed so you get a much softer ride. Give it a try. It will be well worth your effort and you will run out and gets some quick disconnects for future use.

I'm confused by this post. Are you saying that you would run disconnected on road to mitigate bumps?

Wrangler06 06-23-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1327699)
I'm confused by this post. Are you saying that you would run disconnected on road to mitigate bumps?

no, hes sayin on trail rides it will make is smoother and i agree, i disconnet everytime im off road even if its not a lot of rocks, its a much smoother ride and the jeep doesnt feel like it tips over as much on bumps

bbrown626 06-23-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrangler06 (Post 1327717)
no, hes sayin on trail rides it will make is smoother and i agree, i disconnet everytime im off road even if its not a lot of rocks, its a much smoother ride and the jeep doesnt feel like it tips over as much on bumps

YES!
Disconnect them on the freeway or at high speeds at your own risk as stated by others. Swaybars are for driving on the street.

jk'n 06-23-2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler06 (Post 1327717)
no, hes sayin on trail rides it will make is smoother and i agree, i disconnet everytime im off road even if its not a lot of rocks, its a much smoother ride and the jeep doesnt feel like it tips over as much on bumps

X2 on this one. When you are off road, you generally do not go very fast unless you are into beating up on your jeep. So, yes, as soon as my sneakers are off of pavement I'm disco'd.

ColdSRT 06-23-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilldweller
Everything said was true; a disconnected antiswaybar will allow lots of articulation.

My Power Wagon has e-disco as does the Rubi in this video. The two Toyota products don't and have independant front suspensions. Watch the front wheels/tires of these 4 trucks as they negotiate this snotty road
The idea is to keep as much rubber in contact with the ground as much as possible.

YouTube - Nick's.Birthday.2011.MOV ‏

Damnit Bill. Did you really have to buy the same color power wagon as mine. I tell you what brother. You have great taste.

SeaComms 06-24-2011 12:54 AM

I agree with disconnecting. I dont do rock crawling, but I do disconnect whenever off road, even on the beach. The ride is so much better and traction is heaps better too given the wheels stay in contact with the ground more.

I used to just unbolt but got sick of that pretty quickly so since I needed longer sway bar links due to a lift I got disconnects. Takes about 30 seconds to disconnect (pull the pin each side and swing them up to the storage pegs and put the pin back in) and not much longer if on level ground to reconnect. A second person helps to stand on the steps on one side if the ground isnt level!!

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/P1010641.jpg

Hilldweller 06-24-2011 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1327699)
I'm confused by this post. Are you saying that you would run disconnected on road to mitigate bumps?

I disco any time a dirt road is bumpy; the dog and wife appreciate it.
I'll also go into 4wd sooner than many of my friends in an effort to preserve the trail a bit.
Also, chant this: as slow as possible, as fast as necessary.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdSRT (Post 1327800)
I tell you what brother. You have great taste.

As do you, sir; as do you. :flowers:

Camel 08-24-2011 03:33 PM

Finally lifted my jk and got the quick discos. As all my previous experience off road was on the stock set up so here's a question....

Would you guys and gals disconnect the front sway bar for driving on the steeper dunes?.....even though the sand may be relatively smooth?

GoldenSahara00 08-24-2011 03:41 PM

I would.

HELENKELLERMRI 08-24-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaComms (Post 1327863)
I agree with disconnecting. I dont do rock crawling, but I do disconnect whenever off road, even on the beach. The ride is so much better and traction is heaps better too given the wheels stay in contact with the ground more.

I used to just unbolt but got sick of that pretty quickly so since I needed longer sway bar links due to a lift I got disconnects. Takes about 30 seconds to disconnect (pull the pin each side and swing them up to the storage pegs and put the pin back in) and not much longer if on level ground to reconnect. A second person helps to stand on the steps on one side if the ground isnt level!!

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/P1010641.jpg

How much does the quick disconnects cost?

SeaComms 08-25-2011 08:17 AM

These ones are Synergy links with quick disconnect kit - Synergy Suspension Front Sway Bar Disconnect Kit for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec - $184.99

daggo66 08-25-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camel (Post 1505060)
Finally lifted my jk and got the quick discos. As all my previous experience off road was on the stock set up so here's a question....

Would you guys and gals disconnect the front sway bar for driving on the steeper dunes?.....even though the sand may be relatively smooth?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 1505082)
I would.

I wouldn't. You will lose valuable stabilty. Disconnecting the sway bars is for off camber situations at low speed. You're going to want wheel speed and momentum when driving in soft sand. It's very unlikely you would be in a situation where one front wheel would be up and one would be farther down than the sway bar allows.

oilwell1415 08-25-2011 08:30 AM

Do you guys honestly believe that your Jeep becomes a rolling death machine with the sways disconnected? If so, what are you basing that on? I've driven many cars and trucks that didn't have them at all and it really isn't that bad. The purpose of sway bars is to reduce body roll in corners. They really don't have much to do with stability just driving down the road.

White_TJ 03-29-2012 09:28 PM

I have a TJ, as you can see, and my sway bar connectors are help on by the nut at the top. If i were to unscrew the nut on top, what will happen? Will the Jeep drop a couple inches? And how would i get back on? And the sway bar connectors go up and the nut is on top inside a hole type thing.

themoneypit 03-29-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_TJ
I have a TJ, as you can see, and my sway bar connectors are help on by the nut at the top. If i were to unscrew the nut on top, what will happen? Will the Jeep drop a couple inches? And how would i get back on?

If it does, you have other serious issues. The sway bar is to reduce body roll in cornering and such. As long as your on level ground you should be able to bolt back up. Most people undo the bottom bolt, swing up the link, and strap in in place when disconnected.


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