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Old 11-22-2019, 12:14 AM
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3.6L, 3.6L eTorque, or 2.0L Turbo eTorque

I'm about ready to order my JL. I don't know whether to trust the eTorque on the 3.6L V6 or go with the older (Pentastar, I think V6 without eTorque). If you order an automatic trans, the Sahara offers eTorque only (either 3.6L V6 or 2.0L Turbo). If you go Rubicon, you get the 3.6L (not eTorque) standard, or you can upgrade to the 2.L Turbo.

I'm not sure of the extra heat on the turbo, and also not sure of the 48-volt batteries on the eTorques. Here in AZ extreme heat is already reality--not sure I want to add to the stress on the cooling system, and also not sure if I can trust the reliability of the new technology (batteries or turbo).

I know there are other differences between Sahara and Rubicon, but just thinking engines for this thread. What do y'all think?

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Old Jedi, we're in the same boat. Living in Mesa and planning on a new JL in the near future. Our 2013 Sahara Unlimited had the V-6 which we enjoyed, especially in Colorado (did Imogene Pass with it). Seems most new JLs on the lot have the 4-banger. I rented a Benz in England last year with the start-stop and I did not like it at all. As with the heat in AZ, we swap out the batteries every 36 months to forestall failures in the field. May have to get the base JL just to get the V6. As for eTorgue, when they build a all-electric Jeep for 45K, I'll consider one. Simple is better-particularly at 11K feet in Colorado.
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Same boat. I have been shopping for a JL unlimited. I would buy a Sahara but do not like the etorque V6 or the I4 turbo. Really want the body color fenders. Might have to settle for a used JK Unlimited Sahara with V6.
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I wanted the V6 without eTorque (available on the Rubicon only), but I decided I wanted the Selec-Trac more (only on the Sahara). I ordered a JLU Sahara with the auto, V6, and LSD rear diff with Selec-trac. Now I just have to wait patiently... (not so patiently)...
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It seems like FCA is really pushing this 2.0 Turbo. I just saw today on Jeep.com that there was a new Rubicon model, the Rubicon Recon. I started to build one. I really liked the fact that it did away with the red dash panels. Or at least I liked it until I saw the only engine choice was the 4 cylinder 2.0 Turbo. Why wouldn't they let you choose any of then regular Rubicon engine options?
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V6 will be gone in a few years
I believe they are no longer available overseas
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Not being available overseas is more about the taxation on engine displacement above 2,000 cc
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Glad I snagged my 2019 2dr Rubicon with the 3.6 motor. Thing runs fantastic.

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I was looking over the inventory of four dealers in my area and out of 100 plus Wranglers only a hand full offered the 3.6 engine. It seems almost everything has the 2.0 liter turbo? But this engine is so new and hardly anybody has commented on it so it's hard to anti up $40,000 plus on an engine that's so new? That stop/start option just seems like more problems down the line that nobody needs. I know it can be disconnected if your happy looking at an orange light on your dash?
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I was looking over the inventory of four dealers in my area and out of 100 plus Wranglers only a hand full offered the 3.6 engine. It seems almost everything has the 2.0 liter turbo? But this engine is so new and hardly anybody has commented on it so it's hard to anti up $40,000 plus on an engine that's so new? That stop/start option just seems like more problems down the line that nobody needs. I know it can be disconnected if your happy looking at an orange light on your dash?


What orange light. All you have to do is push the button to deactivate it, or get a programmer if you don’t like pushing the button after each startup.


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Glad I snagged my 2019 2dr Rubicon with the 3.6 motor. Thing runs fantastic.
A decent engine, but not w/out issues: casting sand, valve train, etc.

Just drove first turbo 4 w/ torque...not bad.

Unfortunately, for the 90% Wrangler buyers wanting a 4-door, and the 90% of buyers who want an auto trans, the choices are further limited and confusing.
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[QUOTE=POLARIS PRO;34668687]What orange light. All you have to do is push the button to deactivate it, or get a programmer if you don’t like pushing the button after each startup.


This is new to me?? So far nobody has mentioned a button to disengage it. But I have read about disconnecting it under the hood which leaves the orange light on the dash as well as using a programmer which results in the same thing. So....where is this disconnecting button?
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Same boat. I have been shopping for a JL unlimited. I would buy a Sahara but do not like the etorque V6 or the I4 turbo. Really want the body color fenders. Might have to settle for a used JK Unlimited Sahara with V6.
You can order body color fenders on non-Sahara model and therefore avoid the eTorque V6.
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What orange light. All you have to do is push the button to deactivate it, or get a programmer if you don’t like pushing the button after each startup.


This is new to me?? So far nobody has mentioned a button to disengage it. But I have read about disconnecting it under the hood which leaves the orange light on the dash as well as using a programmer which results in the same thing. So....where is this disconnecting button?


There’s a button right under the radio that looks like an A with an arrow around it. Just have to push that when you start your Jeep and Start/Stop is disabled.


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The complete 48 volt battery and starter generator are covered for 8 years 80,000 miles under the emission warranty. It has its own cooling system apparently. Mine has 24,000 miles approaching 1 year of ownership. No problems no complaints.

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I'm new to this ESS motor... You're saying there's a button beneath the radio that must be hit every time you start the Jeep in order to disable the ESS?
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I'm new to this ESS motor... You're saying there's a button beneath the radio that must be hit every time you start the Jeep in order to disable the ESS?
Yes... the “A off” button
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I have a 2018 GC with the ESS. Some GC owners seem to get in a knot about pressing a button each time they start the engine to disable the ESS so they buy an aftermarket plug-in for $140+ to disable it all the time or they spend $3,000 more for the V8 engine that doesn't have it. Things like the aftermarket device might jeopardize their factory warranty but that's another discussion.

Personally, I don't see the big deal with pressing the button. It's right there when I reach for the gear selector to shift out of park. We already have to press buttons and do things now to start the engine that we didn't used to. This is the first vehicle I've owned where I have to press the brake pedal before it will start and I haven't heard of anyone complaining about that.
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The 80k warranty is nice. What happens after that? How much is the 48V battery and wiring? I know the MGU is like $1,400 list price. And then what about those coolant lines under the vehicle? I've seen those leaking on a brand new JL off the truck. I guess I'm just against anything that continues to add cost and complexity to these Jeeps. The K.I.S.S. principle should always apply.
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